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D legendary hero
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Posted - 2015.04.29 04:40:00 -
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It just doesn't work right since the damage profile was changed from 95/110. Either way I'm out gunned by everything close range and long range this weapon is trash. Please fix it.
I could sit here and cite stats but since you have them anyway it would be superfluous to do so. Nonetheless, try it out yourself and see how utterly useless it wil be verses anything jut a lightly clad scout. It's pis poor verse are too.. Due to the high tank ability of armor. Other b weapons still do considerable damage to armor making it pretty bad.
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Posted - 2015.04.29 14:00:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:Lol. Its not trash... You must be, as they say-
-"doin it rong"
So says the noon. Nice try.
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Posted - 2015.04.29 14:06:00 -
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tal mrak-thanl wrote:The Acr is best suited against rep fits. You need the burst variant and good aim to really take out tankers.
That's the problem. Any other gun would by default do better verses low ehp fits.
Hell ascr does more dps to armor than the acr. Because the damage is so low.
With the assault scrambler, better dps than the acr, the gal AR better (in CQC but also at mid range), even rail rifles are better at the range th is gun is supposed to be good.
Let's face it. It needs a damage tweak... Not buff tweak. Use it.use a bk42 for a day with a complex mods on an assault suit and tell me that it works.
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Posted - 2015.04.29 20:46:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:I'm still finding that it's great.
u doin it rung
ok. so elaborate.
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Posted - 2015.04.29 20:50:00 -
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Jakkal Shoobah wrote:As a gallente loyalist I know all about that combat rifle since it kills me with the most ease
Anyone familiar with Cr will tell you that the Cr is pretty much better in every aspect besides ammo capacity. And full auto . The acr is a low dps variant thats easier to use . Since it mimics the AR you gotta take some more time to kill targets instead of bursting the damage. The acr has roughly 2/3 the damage per bullet and 150% the rof of the ar. Coupled with its profile and decent range , you shouldn't have problems unless you don't burst fire and don't focus on one target. Picking easy targets is also a good idea. Ideal range, 10-50 mtrs. 60 if your a good shot.
to be fair, remember im mentioning the ACR. The regular combat rifle is fine, it just suffers horribly from lag issues which is another topic altogether.
Here i refer only to the assault combat. which used to be good but then got a damage nerf and now is crippled...
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If the acr was to have more damage than it would outshine the ar. Remember all assault variants should mimic the respective weapon , but add their own twist. I think the minmatars twist on the AR is that high dps armor chewing ability of projectiles. Practice practice practice. If anything ever needs a buff its the breach shotty and breach flaylock. Those need some love.
Well i certainly dnt want it to outshine the gal ar. The gal ar is finally balanced. Still the niche the ACR had was completely destroyed when its damage was nerfed. i dnt want more damage i want its previously damage output back.
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Posted - 2015.04.29 20:51:00 -
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godhands9 wrote:another thing the original assault rifle is garbage now..I do agree with that.The combat rifle is way to op in fire rate..compared to the assault rifle its way better in all means.
dude when an smg can beat an ACR there is a problem. The regular AR is actually quite balanced. Its not the god machine it was before, but it can beat an ARR and is on par with the ASCr.
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Posted - 2015.04.29 20:59:00 -
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Sleepy Shadow wrote:You need to burst it at longer ranges. When you do, thereGÇÖs no kick and hardly any dispersion.
At close range I am not sure what guns you lose to. And I guess what suits. The ACR is amazing against armour suits though thickly veiled Amarrs can be an issue. Unless youGÇÖre running it on a Minmitar assault. All dem bullits.
Thats the thing verses shields of course its bad, but since armor is easy to tank (im cool with that) it has problems chewing through armor as well. so, the suit isnt particularly the issue at this point.
as far as guns i lose too, ... all the ARs, except tac in cqc, ARR and sometimes regular RR in cqc, Scr, and Ascr, Assault smg.
in cqc (not including shotguns because well yeah its supposed to rock).
Since in order of greatest to least range advantage its supposed to be:
CQC
Gar
Acr
ARR
Ascr
Long
Ascr
ARR
Acr
Gar
this is between the assault variants. the same model service for the othein the ir respective ranges.r variants.
right now it looks like this:
CQC
Gar = Ascr
ARR
Acr
long
Ascr
ARR
Gar = Acr (mostly because of hit detection and the high fire rate plus low damage per shot)
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Posted - 2015.04.30 12:51:00 -
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And bump
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Posted - 2015.04.30 16:15:00 -
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Echo 1991 wrote:D, you are talking out of your rear. The ACR is fine.
I wish I could do that. I'd be rich? Have u used an acr lately? Not ascr, acr
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Posted - 2015.04.30 18:22:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:D legendary her also, pashen an smg can beat an ACR there is a problem. Per Protofits: [u wrote: Standard[/u]
SMG - 350 Base DPS, 0-25m
ACR - 397 Base DPS, 0-62m
Advanced
SMG - 368 Base DPS, 0-25m
ACR - 417 Base DPS, 0-51m
Prototype
SMG - 385 Base DPS, 0-25m
ACR - 437 Base DPS, 0-62m
* STD ACR > PRO SMG
Wonder why protofits is showing a different optimal range of 51 for the ADV ACR and 62 for STD and PRO? Will poke Cyrus.
Better hip fire and more bullets per mag. also past 40m the acr is pretty useless anyway. Lol
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Posted - 2015.05.02 22:35:00 -
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Username Alpha wrote:D legendary hero wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:D legendary her also, pashen an smg can beat an ACR there is a problem. Per Protofits: [u wrote: Standard[/u]
SMG - 350 Base DPS, 0-25m
ACR - 397 Base DPS, 0-62m
Advanced
SMG - 368 Base DPS, 0-25m
ACR - 417 Base DPS, 0-51m
Prototype
SMG - 385 Base DPS, 0-25m
ACR - 437 Base DPS, 0-62m
* STD ACR > PRO SMG
Wonder why protofits is showing a different optimal range of 51 for the ADV ACR and 62 for STD and PRO? Will poke Cyrus. Better hip fire and more bullets per mag. also past 40m the acr is pretty useless anyway. Lol So let me get this straight. You are saying that if you hipfire at 15 meters range, the SMG is going to outperform the ACR because of its bigger magazine. And for this reason you think the ACR needs a buff. Is this an accurate description of your position?
No. i was just making a point that ACR is losing out in its rnge to things its not supposed to such as ARr and Ascr.
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Posted - 2015.05.02 22:37:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:D legendary hero wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:I'm still finding that it's great.
u doin it rung ok. so elaborate. What is there to elaborate on? Point at red, pull the trigger. All assault variants are just meant as a short-range alternative so you don't have to throw SP into plasma rifles.
m point is its not functioning properly at its range verses other ARs.
Im asking that it be adjusted not buffed to become OP. I dnt know why everyone thinks that asking to adjust a weapon will automatically cause ti to be OP. Im not posting the numbers on it because i dnt want it to be too good, at the same time in cqc if i dnt miss i shouldnt lose to ARR and Ascr in my optimal. is that too much to ask?
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