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Tebu Gan
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Posted - 2015.04.28 19:48:00 -
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Quote:Spawning and End of Match
* Planetary Conquest End of Match rewards will be changed to a new rule, Team A recovers Team B's losses, split equally among team A's members, and vice versa. Biomass will no longer be awarded as a reward for winning, successfully defending or claiming a District is reward enough.
Emphasis on the last bit.
Is that how people have generally felt about PC battles? Personally, I never felt that simply defending or claiming a district was reward enough. When you have successfully claimed or defended as many districts as I have, the reward is in what you get out of it, isk or something to make isk.
Yeah I know, changes are comin. Just read things like this and get kinda butthurt over it. Psh reward enough my butt. And while I'm on subject, our one PC battle since these changes came was supposed to be a flip. Won the first battle, went to play the reup and boom, battle magically disappeared.
That was a lot of clones we lost there.
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Tebu Gan
Capital Acquisitions LLC
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Posted - 2015.04.28 20:37:00 -
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Balistyc Farshot wrote:
Cap Ac complaining about district ownership not being lucrative and losing clones? Wait one second, let me get the world's tiniest violin warmed up for your tear filled speech. There won't be a dry eye in the house. Will you plead with Devs to hear why your corp needs those districts?
You must be low on ISK. I know. you need to feed your children Lebron!
Actually, I'm an individual. I'm not this "Cap Acq" as you speak.
That flip I spoke of is a bug that has happened to several corps in PC. Just something I want to see fixed, you know so people can actually flip a district to begin with.
And you sound jealous maybe. I'm just pointing something out here. For those that have ever actually been involved with PC, simply flipping and defending isn't enough. When CCP makes a comment like this, it really shows how out of touch they are with this particular game mode.
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Tebu Gan
Capital Acquisitions LLC
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Posted - 2015.04.29 14:53:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:We are actively working with the majority of PC CEOs and/or directors. Talk to your CEO if you think your voice needs to be heard. A thread like this is practically useless, no offense OP.
Lol, it was more about what was said in notes, "taking and defending districts should be enough". I know changes are coming and am patiently waiting, but just wanted to get out that alone doesn't feel like enough.
Honestly I was going to let this thread die until you chimed in right as I was looking at it! Plenty of useless thread around though. Just wanted to see if anyone else felt like capturing and defending is enough. It's clear though that my corp tag insights a bit of rage.
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Tebu Gan
Capital Acquisitions LLC
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Posted - 2015.04.29 18:26:00 -
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Demandred Moores wrote:Tebu Gan wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:We are actively working with the majority of PC CEOs and/or directors. Talk to your CEO if you think your voice needs to be heard. A thread like this is practically useless, no offense OP. Lol, it was more about what was said in notes, "taking and defending districts should be enough". I know changes are coming and am patiently waiting, but just wanted to get out that alone doesn't feel like enough. Honestly I was going to let this thread die until you chimed in right as I was looking at it! Plenty of useless thread around though. Just wanted to see if anyone else felt like capturing and defending is enough. It's clear though that my corp tag insights a bit of rage. I think if it was originally introduced like this way back in the day and then built upon through updates no one would care or complain. We were spoiled with the passive isk Gen and expected it. But I like the idea of strong corps stomping the weak who come in proto while the stronger uses bpo lol. In the end it gives them a chance to feel good after they manage to win through attack after attack. Sadly that is not how it is and you are right it's in a dismal state. But hey, I'm more than happy to kill you in pubs till they get done with the changes if you need a real reason to rage about low payouts **** salvage and not being able to cover your losses.
Losses are never and won't ever be an issue. While my corp did drop down to BPO suits (most of us at least) against GAM running officer suits, that was more for giggles (before the recent change). And it didn't exactly last long, as we eventually did all pull proto, which resulted in quite a stomp.
This idea that people will be playing cheap suits to make a profit from the end of the match just won't pan out in my opinion. We have the best so we bring the best. ISK is of very little consequence in PC ( more so with trading ). Though it was nice actually getting something for a win over district ownership. It made that effort all the more rewarding.
And I feel sorry for the corps that wanna PC but can't break into it. Hate to break it to them but they just won't stand a chance against large corps that have established themselves. There's a lot more to it than just bringing proto and a full team to make a win.
People cry how unfair PC is, but the strong flourish while the weak perish. Get a strong team and keep trying. All to often people lose and give up, gotta practice.
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Tebu Gan
Capital Acquisitions LLC
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Posted - 2015.04.29 19:31:00 -
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Silver Strike44 wrote:Balistyc Farshot wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Heh, there's just going to be a bunch of tears from people who haven't got a clue about PC violently disagreeing in this thread.
It's pointless, yeah, but PC has been poorly done for a long time. I suppose they wanted to fully kill it before a revamp, though. If that revamp ever comes. I have been a PC vet for a while. I have been in Dust since open beta started. I just am not a forum warrior. What I am saying is that with PC being in the current state and some corps having more districts than ever (Go check the star map). Plus all the other PC issues that have finally come out. There is a thread on this and skype discussions. Why is a super rich corp, with piles of districts, capitalized on the district isk generation, complaining about a mechanic that cost them clones. If a small corp with one district said this, I would feel bad and I would hope Frame would log a ticket. Capital Acquisitions isnt really rich. He wasnt so much complaining about losing clones as he was saying that its a problem that needs to be fixed.
I don't know where people get this idea that everyone that PC's is rich. No, we're just really really really ridiculously good:)
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Tebu Gan
Capital Acquisitions LLC
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Posted - 2015.04.29 21:31:00 -
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el OPERATOR wrote:For anyone who's actually been PCing as primary employment for the last several months to a year+ the new pay structure is a dis-incentive to PC for any reason outside of territorial defenses. Defenses based around this idea that "it'll be worth something someday Soon(TM)".
I think Rattati know this at this point. Pretty sure it's frustrating hearing it over and over (hence his post here)! But I'm with you on the time frame, PC is very much dead atm. His idea under the feed back section for improving isk payouts in Pubs Isk rewards is a pretty solid idea that could easily translate to PC payouts.
Right now winners and losers shouldn't be receiving equal payouts, or losers for that matter getting larger payouts for running free suits. Losers shouldn't be winners, then what's the point of winning!
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Tebu Gan
Capital Acquisitions LLC
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Posted - 2015.04.29 22:30:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:We are actively working with the majority of PC CEOs and/or directors. Talk to your CEO if you think your voice needs to be heard. A thread like this is practically useless, no offense OP. Unpopular Opinion Amadi here with more exciting comments! Okay, so, the chain of command is now: CCP > CPM > PC Think Tank > PC CEOs > Players That's cool. So what happens when someone along those lines thinks it's a bad idea because it doesn't pander their own interests? Can't tell me it won't happen - it happens all the time. Good ideas get ignored when they're not publicized and telling us to talk to our CEO's is basically saying, "Have your opinion potentially get lost, never to be heard of again."
Yeah, I kinda thought something along those lines when I first read it. It's somewhat offensive for a Dev to degrade a player like that(I just took it in stride mind you, no use getting butthurt). Mind you that I am in general disscusions, and not all posts need be for the dev overlords constant benefit.
If he's looking for gold, I hear the feedback section of the forums is full of them. I assumed players should be able to discuss this amongst themselves, for our own benefit. Practically useless for a developer sure. Then ignore it, I honestly didn't think this warranted a fabled "blue tag".
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