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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2015.04.28 17:18:00 -
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I knew this was coming to be honest, because this kind of crap is frankly typical . . . but why does a skin, which performs no practical application, cost as much as (in some cases more) as standard BPO dropsuit with a practical application? at most they should by $5. This is not some attempt at bartering where I'm going to be satisfied with some compromise in between -- seriously. I'm not paying $10 just to have my suits in a video game look different; you can buy a great older game with probably higher production values for that money (not exaggerating at all). Does CCP have no sense of comparative value or perspective? I miss when micro-transactions used to actually be micro.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2015.04.28 17:19:00 -
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because unlike the bpos that precede them they can be applied to a larger magnitude of suits instead of haivng to buy other bpos for those suits.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.04.28 17:20:00 -
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$10 is too much for a vanity item.
$5 is acceptable... still high, but acceptable.
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:because unlike the bpos that precede them they can be applied to a larger magnitude of suits instead of haivng to buy other bpos for those suits. What BPO's did is irrelevant. This is a 100% cosmetic item. More than $5 is stupid.
@Ripley_Riley
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2015.04.28 17:21:00 -
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No practical effect?
Have you considered the implications of making your proto suit look like a militia suit with some of the legacy SKINs?
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SoTa PoP
Ahrendee Inc.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.04.28 17:21:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:because unlike the bpos that precede them they can be applied to a larger magnitude of suits instead of haivng to buy other bpos for those suits.
it's aesthetics. it's not changing my game or experience, it's changing colors on my ******* screen.
Why am I paying 10 bucks for colors? That's the price of a DLC pack for most games that includes several content. But in Dust - it's ******* colors...? lol?
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2015.04.28 17:22:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:$10 is too much for a vanity item. $5 is acceptable... still high, but acceptable. Iron Wolf Saber wrote:because unlike the bpos that precede them they can be applied to a larger magnitude of suits instead of haivng to buy other bpos for those suits. What BPO's did is irrelevant. This is a 100% cosmetic item. More than $5 is stupid.
Tell that to Star Citizen backers  (Yes, that's admittedly a little apples to oranges).
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2015.04.28 17:23:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:No practical effect?
Have you considered the implications of making your proto suit look like a militia suit with some of the legacy SKINs?
LOL
1) that isn't close the discrepancy between value and price.
2) Target intel still lists tier.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.04.28 17:23:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:No practical effect?
Have you considered the implications of making your proto suit look like a militia suit with some of the legacy SKINs?
Anyone who's good though doesn't actually care what you look like, they just kill you. If you don't immediately die, they know you aren't in MLT. Also, there's this little thing called target intel....
Seriously, a vanity item shouldn't cost so much lol. But, this is standard fare with CCP, so I'm very far from surprised.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.04.28 17:24:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:$10 is too much for a vanity item. $5 is acceptable... still high, but acceptable. Iron Wolf Saber wrote:because unlike the bpos that precede them they can be applied to a larger magnitude of suits instead of haivng to buy other bpos for those suits. What BPO's did is irrelevant. This is a 100% cosmetic item. More than $5 is stupid. Tell that to Star Citizen backers (Yes, that's admittedly a little apples to oranges).
Get the **** off my space tree bro
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castba
Rogue Instincts
Ashtar Federation
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Posted - 2015.04.28 17:26:00 -
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Looking at what I got for two DLC pack for Mario Kart 8 (16AUD).
6 characters, 8 vehicles, 16 tracks and 14 skins across two different characters.
You say 10USD for a single skin?
I love Dust (when I have time to play) and am glad it is monetized, but value for money needs to be of higher priority and focus IMO.
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe.
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.04.28 17:26:00 -
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Yeah, 10$ is steep. If it applied to all suite of a race, maybe. But limited to just one race and one tier is too narrow to warrant the cost.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.04.28 17:27:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:Tell that to Star Citizen backers (Yes, that's admittedly a little apples to oranges). Star Citizen backers are drinking deeply of some special koolaid. I cannot be responsible for their actions.
@Ripley_Riley
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.04.28 17:29:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Jadek Menaheim wrote:Tell that to Star Citizen backers (Yes, that's admittedly a little apples to oranges). Star Citizen backers are drinking deeply of some special koolaid. I cannot be responsible for their actions.
It's a coolaid called "proper development"
It's wicked tasty
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
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Posted - 2015.04.28 17:32:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:No practical effect?
Have you considered the implications of making your proto suit look like a militia suit with some of the legacy SKINs?
The corner screen that says where some is a Mutton Lettuce Tomato, has a Sexually Transmuted Disease, is A Devout Vegan, or is just a Perverted Randy Ostrich is a lot more obvious than the color of their suits. At least to me.
Aye, 10 bucks for a skin seems steep especially when you consider the value of what you are getting. Riot sells RP for 1,380 for 10 dollars or .00725 cents per RP. This skin costs 975 RP or $7.07 dollars. Sure, you can argue "that is a skin for one guy rather than all Medium/Light/Heavy suits" but the League skin is extremely different, more noticeable because the game is longer and slower so more people can see it, and looks like a lot of effort was put into it rather than just a pallet swap.
Plus, YOU get to actually see the skin.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.04.28 17:33:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:It's a coolaid called "proper development". It's wicked tasty Has it launched yet? I keep hearing things about the alpha and beta, but no launch.
Thanks to the current state of the gaming industry I don't take stock in anything before a game has been live for a few weeks, at least.
@Ripley_Riley
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.04.28 17:37:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:It's a coolaid called "proper development". It's wicked tasty Has it launched yet? I keep hearing things about the alpha and beta, but no launch. Thanks to the current state of the gaming industry I don't take stock in anything before a game has been live for a few weeks, at least.
Of course it hasn't launched yet, it shouldn't for a minimum of another year. Arena Commander is playable though and a **** load of fun, and the FPS module is launching some time soon(tm), as will the remainder of the modules as they're completed.
The amount of updates out of RSI is crazy, and watching 10 For the Chairman and Around the Verse each week is great to be able to keep up to date with their development process. Though, 10 for the Chair is currently down for the next month or so while Chris Roberts is in london directing the Mo Cap filming for Squadron 42
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2015.04.28 18:35:00 -
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I present to you the Star Citizen Conundrum.
Buying a virtual starship vs buying a computer that can barely run the game.
Buying a virtual starship vs buying a real world car.
Buying a virtual starship vs buying a real starship.
Skies the limits!
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.04.28 18:36:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I present to you the Star Citizen Conundrum.
Buying a virtual starship vs buying a computer that can barely run the game.
Or...have a computer that plays it mostly fine, AND buy a starship? Arena Commander runs buttery smooth on my rig and it hasn't even been given optimization passes yet lol.
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Drogan Reeth
Free Trade Corp
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Posted - 2015.04.28 18:40:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I present to you the Star Citizen Conundrum.
Buying a virtual starship vs buying a computer that can barely run the game.
As apposed to Dust where you have no other choice but to barely run the game.
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.04.28 18:47:00 -
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League of Legends is kind of a popular game. Sells its skins for about $7.50 on average, and some go for a lot more.
Purely cosmetic. Kind of a popular game. Kind of.
Usually banned for being too awesome.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.04.28 18:49:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I present to you the Star Citizen Conundrum.
Buying a virtual starship vs buying a computer that can barely run the game. Or...have a computer that plays it mostly fine, AND buy a starship? Arena Commander runs buttery smooth on my rig and it hasn't even been given optimization passes yet lol.
I prefer buying a real starship. Just not from Virgin, I guess.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.04.28 18:49:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I present to you the Star Citizen Conundrum.
Buying a virtual starship vs buying a computer that can barely run the game. Or...have a computer that plays it mostly fine, AND buy a starship? Arena Commander runs buttery smooth on my rig and it hasn't even been given optimization passes yet lol. I prefer buying a real starship. Just not from Virgin, I guess.
Well while you're saving up, I'll be flying around the galaxy in my DUR
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Scheneighnay McBob
And the ButtPirates
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Posted - 2015.04.28 18:50:00 -
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Drogan Reeth wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I present to you the Star Citizen Conundrum.
Buying a virtual starship vs buying a computer that can barely run the game.
As apposed to Dust where you have no other choice but to barely run the game.
Console peasants don't understand the true meaning of "barely running".
Barely running is setting the graphics to "lump of **** in the vague shape of an object", and still getting 10 fps
Some details can be ignored
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Avallo Kantor
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Posted - 2015.04.28 19:01:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I present to you the Star Citizen Conundrum.
Buying a virtual starship vs buying a computer that can barely run the game. Or...have a computer that plays it mostly fine, AND buy a starship? Arena Commander runs buttery smooth on my rig and it hasn't even been given optimization passes yet lol. I prefer buying a real starship. Just not from Virgin, I guess. Well while you're saving up, I'll be flying around the galaxy in my DUR
By which you mean your small maps of 8 v 8?
Currently Star Citizen has less features implemented than DUST 514.
Call Beta all you want, but that doesn't somehow make the proposed features for the 'full' game any more technically feasible than they are now. Or after looking at [any number of games] do you think FPS will be easy to add to the same battlefield as ship vs ship action in a meaningful way?
Let me ask this: What is the max crew size of the biggest ship currently 'proposed' by Star Citizen?
Now add in a defensive compliment of 1/4 that size as marines, and add in another equal force as boarding.
Factor in the hostile ships that would also have to be in that battle-space, and the crew compliments of that ship.
Then factor in other physically based rendering tricks the game promises such as dynamic oxygen levels, free-form cargo placement, dynamic damage maps, astrometric effects in space, pets, and the countless other features a ship will have.
Now tell me, what does Star Citizen plan to do to let all these features run so easily as to give the required FPS and smoothness that is required for both it's flight model and satisfying FPS play. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2015.04.28 19:04:00 -
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Most lethal weapon in star citizen is a flash light.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.04.28 19:11:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Most lethal weapon in star citizen is a flash light.
I'm not gonna try to defend a game that doesn't need defending, and I'm sorry for helping derail this thread. I will be off enjoying my space sim whenever it comes out, and in the mean time I'll be playing my other games like I always have.
It's funny how players who went ballistic for CCPs vision can't even entertain a vision that not only has the monetary funding required, but a MASSIVE team of INCREDIBLY talented developers behind it, all with a very open and straight forward approach to sharing and collaborating information with the player base.
Y'all even saltier than me, and trust me, that's saying a lot.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2015.04.28 19:37:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Most lethal weapon in star citizen is a flash light. I'm not gonna try to defend a game that doesn't need defending, and I'm sorry for helping derail this thread. I will be off enjoying my space sim whenever it comes out, and in the mean time I'll be playing my other games like I always have. It's funny how players who went ballistic for CCPs vision can't even entertain a vision that not only has the monetary funding required, but a MASSIVE team of INCREDIBLY talented developers behind it, all with a very open and straight forward approach to sharing and collaborating information with the player base. Y'all even saltier than me, and trust me, that's saying a lot.
Sorry just the amount of vultures who are harking the death of kick-starters on star citizen is a fairly large group and that most people paying into star citizen are not new people. Hasnt' been for a year or so.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.04.28 19:41:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Most lethal weapon in star citizen is a flash light. I'm not gonna try to defend a game that doesn't need defending, and I'm sorry for helping derail this thread. I will be off enjoying my space sim whenever it comes out, and in the mean time I'll be playing my other games like I always have. It's funny how players who went ballistic for CCPs vision can't even entertain a vision that not only has the monetary funding required, but a MASSIVE team of INCREDIBLY talented developers behind it, all with a very open and straight forward approach to sharing and collaborating information with the player base. Y'all even saltier than me, and trust me, that's saying a lot. Sorry just the amount of vultures who are harking the death of kick-starters on star citizen is a fairly large group and that most people paying into star citizen are not new people. Hasnt' been for a year or so.
900,000 unique backers for a game that's still 2 years out is still pretty damn impressive.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2015.04.28 20:11:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Most lethal weapon in star citizen is a flash light. I'm not gonna try to defend a game that doesn't need defending, and I'm sorry for helping derail this thread. I will be off enjoying my space sim whenever it comes out, and in the mean time I'll be playing my other games like I always have. It's funny how players who went ballistic for CCPs vision can't even entertain a vision that not only has the monetary funding required, but a MASSIVE team of INCREDIBLY talented developers behind it, all with a very open and straight forward approach to sharing and collaborating information with the player base. Y'all even saltier than me, and trust me, that's saying a lot. Sorry just the amount of vultures who are harking the death of kick-starters on star citizen is a fairly large group and that most people paying into star citizen are not new people. Hasnt' been for a year or so. 900,000 unique backers for a game that's still 2 years out is still pretty damn impressive.
I had a sliver of confidence in the game before until you mentioned that number as it was nearly the same number someone used in an argument over the game nearly a year ago.
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Avallo Kantor
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Posted - 2015.04.28 20:20:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Most lethal weapon in star citizen is a flash light. I'm not gonna try to defend a game that doesn't need defending, and I'm sorry for helping derail this thread. I will be off enjoying my space sim whenever it comes out, and in the mean time I'll be playing my other games like I always have. It's funny how players who went ballistic for CCPs vision can't even entertain a vision that not only has the monetary funding required, but a MASSIVE team of INCREDIBLY talented developers behind it, all with a very open and straight forward approach to sharing and collaborating information with the player base. Y'all even saltier than me, and trust me, that's saying a lot. Sorry just the amount of vultures who are harking the death of kick-starters on star citizen is a fairly large group and that most people paying into star citizen are not new people. Hasnt' been for a year or so. 900,000 unique backers for a game that's still 2 years out is still pretty damn impressive.
Do pre-order numbers impact product quality now?
Hold on, let me go tell Aliens Colonial Marines, The Order: 1886, and Assassin's Creed: Unity that. |
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