DUST Search - Bolt Pistol Crosshair Gap Size

Vesta Opalus wrote:

Clone D wrote:

Breakin Stuff wrote:

Apparently he has not tried this magical method:

Aim down sight. Utilize pinpoint reflex dot sight. Reven in the tears of the person you killed with a "scrub gun"

No, the point is that bolt pistol hip fire should not have a large area of damage. It should be a pinpoint no matter which stance you use dut to the nature of the weapon.

It's a lot easier to catch an enemy within a wide crosshair gap than on a single pinpoint. The wide gap essentially expands the hitbox and makes it easier to shoot someone from hipfire. That should not be the case. If the attacker is not aiming, then it should be harder to hit an object with the bolt pistol because of its pinpoint accuracy, not easier.

The point is the pistol is fine right now, its hipfire is not supposed to be easy to aim or hit, and its scoped in is supposed to be easy to hit.

Gun is balanced, leave it alone.

If you want to complain about stuff, complain about the magsec, ion pistol, non breach scrambler pistols, etc. All of them either outright suck or have no place in the game meta

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Clone D Solo Zen 1700	Posted - 2015.04.28 10:15:00 - [1] - Quote "The result of years of R&D, the bolt pistol is a high-impact handgun capable of firing kinetic projectiles with pinpoint accuracy" So why does it play out like the bolt pistol is a spread weapon. The crosshair gap, in any stance, should always be a single dot. Currently, when shooting from the hip, the gap is huge. This appears to be counter intuitive to the design of the weapon and makes a 50 meter spread death beam. <<<< Bad
Genral69 death Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 192	Posted - 2015.04.28 10:54:00 - [2] - Quote Have you tryed crouching General limited: warming failure to pay, may lead to death,massive amount of pain or even lose of family. Since 1995
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 10459	Posted - 2015.04.28 11:29:00 - [3] - Quote That bullet magnetism though *As long as 5/6 (83%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP*
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 8269	Posted - 2015.04.28 11:42:00 - [4] - Quote Apparently he has not tried this magical method: Aim down sight. Utilize pinpoint reflex dot sight. Reven in the tears of the person you killed with a "scrub gun" AV
Clone D Solo Zen 1702	Posted - 2015.04.28 17:27:00 - [5] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Apparently he has not tried this magical method: Aim down sight. Utilize pinpoint reflex dot sight. Reven in the tears of the person you killed with a "scrub gun" No, the point is that bolt pistol hip fire should not have a large area of damage. It should be a pinpoint no matter which stance you use dut to the nature of the weapon. It's a lot easier to catch an enemy within a wide crosshair gap than on a single pinpoint. The wide gap essentially expands the hitbox and makes it easier to shoot someone from hipfire. That should not be the case. If the attacker is not aiming, then it should be harder to hit an object with the bolt pistol because of its pinpoint accuracy, not easier.
Vesta Opalus Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 639	Posted - 2015.04.28 17:35:00 - [6] - Quote Clone D wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Apparently he has not tried this magical method: Aim down sight. Utilize pinpoint reflex dot sight. Reven in the tears of the person you killed with a "scrub gun" No, the point is that bolt pistol hip fire should not have a large area of damage. It should be a pinpoint no matter which stance you use dut to the nature of the weapon. It's a lot easier to catch an enemy within a wide crosshair gap than on a single pinpoint. The wide gap essentially expands the hitbox and makes it easier to shoot someone from hipfire. That should not be the case. If the attacker is not aiming, then it should be harder to hit an object with the bolt pistol because of its pinpoint accuracy, not easier. The point is the pistol is fine right now, its hipfire is not supposed to be easy to aim or hit, and its scoped in is supposed to be easy to hit. Gun is balanced, leave it alone. If you want to complain about stuff, complain about the magsec, ion pistol, non breach scrambler pistols, etc. All of them either outright suck or have no place in the game meta
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 279	Posted - 2015.04.28 17:56:00 - [7] - Quote No amount of AA should make hip firing BP feasible. It's a space magnum right? "Lets group up and push an objective" ~ No blueberry ever 07-28-12 ~Deal with it~
Scheneighnay McBob And the ButtPirates 6249	Posted - 2015.04.28 18:33:00 - [8] - Quote You can take the most accurate weapon in the world and try firing it from the hip, and you won't hit exactly where you're attempting to aim, idiot. Some details can be ignored
Clone D Solo Zen 1702	Posted - 2015.04.28 18:33:00 - [9] - Quote Vesta Opalus wrote: Clone D wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Apparently he has not tried this magical method: Aim down sight. Utilize pinpoint reflex dot sight. Reven in the tears of the person you killed with a "scrub gun" No, the point is that bolt pistol hip fire should not have a large area of damage. It should be a pinpoint no matter which stance you use dut to the nature of the weapon. It's a lot easier to catch an enemy within a wide crosshair gap than on a single pinpoint. The wide gap essentially expands the hitbox and makes it easier to shoot someone from hipfire. That should not be the case. If the attacker is not aiming, then it should be harder to hit an object with the bolt pistol because of its pinpoint accuracy, not easier. The point is the pistol is fine right now, its hipfire is not supposed to be easy to aim or hit, and its scoped in is supposed to be easy to hit. Gun is balanced, leave it alone. If you want to complain about stuff, complain about the magsec, ion pistol, non breach scrambler pistols, etc. All of them either outright suck or have no place in the game meta Do you understand basic trig, Vesta. An aiming box creates a telescoping pyramid hit region away from the shooter, which is fine if the weapon has dispersion. But in the case of the bolt pistol, it's not supposed to have dispersion. In other words, it's currently a WAY OP hipfire spread weapon of destruction. A point for hipfire crosshair makes much more sense and takes away the OP. The trajectory for hit detection should be a geometric line, not a recumbant pyramid.
Clone D Solo Zen 1702	Posted - 2015.04.28 18:39:00 - [10] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: You can take the most accurate weapon in the world and try firing it from the hip, and you won't hit exactly where you're attempting to aim, idiot. That is what I'm saying. The BP is too accurate when being fired from the hip due to the aiming region within the crosshairs. If you made it a single point, then people would hit less often. It's easier to put a huge square somewhere over a target than a tiny dot. And the bolt pistol doesn't fire a huge square round, nor does it have dispersion. It fires a tiny projectile in an exactly straight line. Hence the crosshairs should always be a pinpoint regardless of the stance.

Deadly Goliath Omega Warlords 55	Posted - 2015.04.28 19:08:00 - [11] - Quote Clone D wrote: "The result of years of R&D, the bolt pistol is a high-impact handgun capable of firing kinetic projectiles with pinpoint accuracy" So why does it play out like the bolt pistol is a spread weapon. The crosshair gap, in any stance, should always be a single dot. Currently, when shooting from the hip, the gap is huge. This appears to be counter intuitive to the design of the weapon and makes a 50 meter spread death beam. <<<< Bad Well I'm guessing that with 220 DMG they have to make a big hip spread, it's a balancing factor. Extermination is what i do.
Deadly Goliath Omega Warlords 55	Posted - 2015.04.28 19:10:00 - [12] - Quote Genral69 death wrote: Have you tryed crouching He said "In any stance". Extermination is what i do.


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