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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 1987	Posted - 2015.04.25 20:55:00 - [1] - Quote Apex suits ... I would say BPO's but APEX suits for sure , there all reward and no effort beyond the money it cost to get them , I guess that's why their so popular but .. no consequences for any effort but all the rewards and now there a factor in the PC matches as well like any and everyone didn't know that CCP would look out for the money half of their exploits .. it's only profitable . Yes I seem but hurt because you can go 20 - 2 or 2 - 20 using these POS and get all the rewards from their use while those who aren't as fortunate and use ISK have to pay either way . Is , KDR profitable as currency ? I can use AURUM and not have to worry about ISK ever again . Is that a lie ??? This really sucks and these people will tell you that their good , they suck ... scrubs is what they are and nothing else , money wall hacks and people complain about scanners , at least the cost ISK .. militia and STD are just ADV . People complain about scanners but their nothing like these TRUE money / wall hacks that get everything and have to spend nothing but the initial payment and yes it's REAL currency but it's fracking up the economics of New Eden .. unless your one of these global captial fracks who buy elections and claim them to be legit ... it's true and plain scrubbery . Bullocks I call , Bullocks .. . CCP U SUCK FOR YOUR MONEY HACKERY . Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed . #PubsShouldBeRandomPlayers
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 1987	Posted - 2015.04.25 20:56:00 - [2] - Quote You know I love this game but you make me mad sometimes CCP . Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed . #PubsShouldBeRandomPlayers
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 9734	Posted - 2015.04.25 20:57:00 - [3] - Quote But they are only marginally better than Starter suits.... Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
LOL KILLZ LulKlz 18	Posted - 2015.04.25 21:01:00 - [4] - Quote I've never been dumb enough to buy them. It is the greatest thing in the world to shoot those suits in the face. CEO of LulKlz/ chat channel LulKlz, code 0000 <--- numbers
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 1988	Posted - 2015.04.25 21:01:00 - [5] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: But they are only marginally better than Starter suits.... I know but your under exaggerating the point of the fact that these people can run these suits and not have to spend another ISK ever again and that's a fact . Don't let them have 3 or more . I know the stats ad all but it takes the game out of having to work for something that doesn't effect the user beyond the initial payment and if that's the effort then you can just buy your way to a win , crush the competition and just rack in the ISK hand over fist . Downplaying it is just compliance . Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed . #PubsShouldBeRandomPlayers
Golden Day Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 1467	Posted - 2015.04.25 21:02:00 - [6] - Quote In short:CCP NERF APEX SUITS! FOR THE STATE!
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 1988	Posted - 2015.04.25 21:02:00 - [7] - Quote LOL KILLZ wrote: I've never been dumb enough to buy them. It is the greatest thing in the world to shoot those suits in the face. Yeah and watch them roll them out one after another , maybe if they had the same for HAV's / ADS's then you would understand . Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed . #PubsShouldBeRandomPlayers
Eruditus 920 Nemo Malus Felix 1700	Posted - 2015.04.25 21:03:00 - [8] - Quote They can be significantly better than starter fits, because skill bonuses apply. Still not great, but quite serviceable. OP, how do you feel about the LP purchased BPO's? Are they reprehensible? I hope not, I have two. "Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 9735	Posted - 2015.04.25 21:04:00 - [9] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: They can be significantly better than starter fits, because skill bonuses apply. Still not great, but quite serviceable. OP, how do you feel about the LP purchased BPO's? Are they reprehensible? I hope not, I have two. I was under the impression that skill bonuses apply to Starter suits also. Is that incorrect? Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 1988	Posted - 2015.04.25 21:05:00 - [10] - Quote Golden Day wrote: In short:CCP NERF APEX SUITS! No but their having a neg effect on the economy . No one in their right mind could say otherwise and be honest about it . PC is going to be screwed no matter whatever mechanics that they involve , it's running cheap suits with positive gain every match and these same people are calling for vehicle BPO's . If you don't see a problem with that then your blind . Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed . #PubsShouldBeRandomPlayers

Eruditus 920 Nemo Malus Felix 1700	Posted - 2015.04.25 21:06:00 - [11] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Eruditus 920 wrote: They can be significantly better than starter fits, because skill bonuses apply. Still not great, but quite serviceable. OP, how do you feel about the LP purchased BPO's? Are they reprehensible? I hope not, I have two. I was under the impression that skill bonuses apply to Starter suits also. Is that incorrect? I didn't think skill bonuses applied to militia gear... "Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 1988	Posted - 2015.04.25 21:06:00 - [12] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: They can be significantly better than starter fits, because skill bonuses apply. Still not great, but quite serviceable. OP, how do you feel about the LP purchased BPO's? Are they reprehensible? I hope not, I have two. That takes a sizable effort , not just coming out of your pocket , you have to use some effort to acquire them . That much if not bought I can understand . Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed . #PubsShouldBeRandomPlayers
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 1988	Posted - 2015.04.25 21:07:00 - [13] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: One Eyed King wrote: Eruditus 920 wrote: They can be significantly better than starter fits, because skill bonuses apply. Still not great, but quite serviceable. OP, how do you feel about the LP purchased BPO's? Are they reprehensible? I hope not, I have two. I was under the impression that skill bonuses apply to Starter suits also. Is that incorrect? I didn't think skill bonuses applied to militia gear... Yes they do to my understanding . Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed . #PubsShouldBeRandomPlayers
Golden Day Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 1467	Posted - 2015.04.25 21:09:00 - [14] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Golden Day wrote: In short:CCP NERF APEX SUITS! No but their having a neg effect on the economy . No one in their right mind could say otherwise and be honest about it . PC is going to be screwed no matter whatever mechanics that they involve , it's running cheap suits with positive gain every match and these same people are calling for vehicle BPO's . If you don't see a problem with that then your blind . Hmm why not just remove every bpo and replace them with something else oh wait... SKINs >:P FOR THE STATE!
Bremen van Equis Incorruptibles 405	Posted - 2015.04.25 21:09:00 - [15] - Quote I bought my Apex Galmando. I'm the mercenary of tomorrow. Today. Buckle up, boysGÇªthis ramp leads to space. -Axe Cop
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 1988	Posted - 2015.04.25 21:11:00 - [16] - Quote Bremen van Equis wrote: I bought my Apex Galmando. I'm the mercenary of tomorrow. Today. Your lucky that the Galmando is my Fav suit . Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed . #PubsShouldBeRandomPlayers
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Rebels New Republic The Ditanian Alliance 2747	Posted - 2015.04.25 21:13:00 - [17] - Quote Im slowly earning my Tiger scout. Siiiiigh only 70kLP to go. Weeeeeeeeeeeee Should you use them in PUBS/FW? Hells yes. In PC? Hells nah. Despite the ridiculous mullah you can make & never lose sht. No APEX in PC. Problem solved. If you go the hard way & earn it, unless your running starter fits or full BPO suits you spend more time losing ISK because it was SUCH a great idea to get rid of ISK pay, so by the time you get it, if you have the opportunity to make back all your ISK and then some, id say you'd better run and enjoy that APEX suit as much as you can. I am a ninja assassin, as i like to call Tactical Slayer Snake Eyes>All Beware, stubborn scout inbound
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 1988	Posted - 2015.04.25 21:13:00 - [18] - Quote Golden Day wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Golden Day wrote: In short:CCP NERF APEX SUITS! No but their having a neg effect on the economy . No one in their right mind could say otherwise and be honest about it . PC is going to be screwed no matter whatever mechanics that they involve , it's running cheap suits with positive gain every match and these same people are calling for vehicle BPO's . If you don't see a problem with that then your blind . Hmm why not just remove every bpo and replace them with something else oh wait... SKINs >:P All I'm saying is that their blank kills , they don't effect the economy except in a ghost / neg , way because you don't notice them except / unless your killing in a massive positive way and you reap all the rewards . You go 2 - 20 and it's like .. " Ho hum ... . " no problem . no effect to your wallet . Pay once for the chance and game of a life time . Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed . #PubsShouldBeRandomPlayers
danthrax martin Bad Blueberries 347	Posted - 2015.04.25 21:13:00 - [19] - Quote I thought cowards used scanners, I'm confused. Edit: I is one Suicidal A/V Moron Future Corporate Raider 80+mil SP
Melchiah ARANeAE The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 582	Posted - 2015.04.25 21:15:00 - [20] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: They can be significantly better than starter fits, because skill bonuses apply. Still not great, but quite serviceable. OP, how do you feel about the LP purchased BPO's? Are they reprehensible? I hope not, I have two. All appropriate skill bonuses do apply to starter fits. We want cake and tea.

PADDEHATPIGEN BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 175	Posted - 2015.04.25 21:16:00 - [21] - Quote Buy one, use it, and the come back and tell us how disappointed you are. They only have standard/militia modules and weapons and you can't modify weapons or modules, you can't even set it favorite. And just so you are warned some of them are fitted a little funny =ƒÿï And if you ask me they are a waste of AUR/ISK-LP. Just stick to the good old standard BPO with your own custom militia BPO fit.
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 1501	Posted - 2015.04.25 21:16:00 - [22] - Quote Why would anyone use another suit? So that they can customise it to their preferences. APEX suits are hardly optimised for any particular play style, and some suits can run radically different but equally effective fits. Alt of Halla Murr. Sentinel.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 1988	Posted - 2015.04.25 21:17:00 - [23] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: Im slowly earning my Tiger scout. Siiiiigh only 70kLP to go. Weeeeeeeeeeeee Should you use them in PUBS/FW? Hells yes. In PC? Hells nah. Despite the ridiculous mullah you can make & never lose sht. No APEX in PC. Problem solved. If you go the hard way & earn it, unless your running starter fits or full BPO suits you spend more time losing ISK because it was SUCH a great idea to get rid of ISK pay, so by the time you get it, if you have the opportunity to make back all your ISK and then some, id say you'd better run and enjoy that APEX suit as much as you can. Your a sane exception , they are changing this and making this profitable with later changes in the equation . People just don't understand how screw up this is and it's not just " Field your own APEX ." , that shouldn't be the answer to me , it's like bailing out the banks in the U.S. & E.U. ... you giving these same people carte blanch and the have not's have to suffer . Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed . #PubsShouldBeRandomPlayers
Golden Day Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 1468	Posted - 2015.04.25 21:17:00 - [24] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Golden Day wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Golden Day wrote: In short:CCP NERF APEX SUITS! No but their having a neg effect on the economy . No one in their right mind could say otherwise and be honest about it . PC is going to be screwed no matter whatever mechanics that they involve , it's running cheap suits with positive gain every match and these same people are calling for vehicle BPO's . If you don't see a problem with that then your blind . Hmm why not just remove every bpo and replace them with something else oh wait... SKINs >:P All I'm saying is that their blank kills , they don't effect the economy except in a ghost / neg , way because you don't notice them except / unless your killing in a massive positive way and you reap all the rewards . You go 2 - 20 and it's like .. " Ho hum ... . " no problem . no effect to your wallet . Pay once for the chance and game of a life time . Why not rally for all bpos to be turned into skins ^_^??? FOR THE STATE!
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 1988	Posted - 2015.04.25 21:18:00 - [25] - Quote Kallas Hallytyr wrote: Why would anyone use another suit? So that they can customise it to their preferences. APEX suits are hardly optimised for any particular play style, and some suits can run radically different but equally effective fits. But now there asking to change this and customize these suits even . Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed . #PubsShouldBeRandomPlayers
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 1988	Posted - 2015.04.25 21:19:00 - [26] - Quote Golden Day wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Golden Day wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Golden Day wrote: In short:CCP NERF APEX SUITS! No but their having a neg effect on the economy . No one in their right mind could say otherwise and be honest about it . PC is going to be screwed no matter whatever mechanics that they involve , it's running cheap suits with positive gain every match and these same people are calling for vehicle BPO's . If you don't see a problem with that then your blind . Hmm why not just remove every bpo and replace them with something else oh wait... SKINs >:P All I'm saying is that their blank kills , they don't effect the economy except in a ghost / neg , way because you don't notice them except / unless your killing in a massive positive way and you reap all the rewards . You go 2 - 20 and it's like .. " Ho hum ... . " no problem . no effect to your wallet . Pay once for the chance and game of a life time . Why not rally for all bpos to be turned into skins ^_^??? That's not going to happen , the exect of this game is from EA , you figure it out . Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed . #PubsShouldBeRandomPlayers
Cypher Nil Fireteam Tempest 251	Posted - 2015.04.25 21:22:00 - [27] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: I know but your under exaggerating the point of the fact that these people can run these suits and not have to spend another ISK ever again and that's a fact . Don't let them have 3 or more . I know the stats ad all but it takes the game out of having to work for something that doesn't effect the user beyond the initial payment and if that's the effort then you can just buy your way to a win , crush the competition and just rack in the ISK hand over fist . Downplaying it is just compliance . So they use the APEX, get free ISK slowly by playing underpowered compared to better suits. use that ISK to get proto suits then play badly due to lack of practice in those proto suits, go broke. use the APEX suit again. Meanwhile I'm slowly accruing a fortune by playing proto and kicking ass each game even if I lose. No I don't see a problem anywhere n++pâçGòÉS+Ç 26+ Million SP Merc n++pâçGòÉS+Ç Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉn¦ñ Caldari Loyalist Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉn¦ñ Of course we won, now when do I get paid?
Eruditus 920 Nemo Malus Felix 1700	Posted - 2015.04.25 21:24:00 - [28] - Quote I picked up two of them with extra LP just because they seem collectable to me. No regrets. And the ones I got look sexy. I made one my favorite before the bug and haven't changed it, so it's fun to sport on the Warbarge, until mercs start dry humping your leg. "Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
Golden Day Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 1468	Posted - 2015.04.25 21:28:00 - [29] - Quote Actually it is going to happen because as I remeber CCP Rattati said he was gonna replace bpos with skins as I remeber..... FOR THE STATE!
7th Son 7 Escrow Removal and Acquisition 792	Posted - 2015.04.25 21:38:00 - [30] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Apex suits ... I would say BPO's but APEX suits for sure , there all reward and no effort beyond the money it cost to get them , I guess that's why their so popular but .. no consequences for any effort but all the rewards and now there a factor in the PC matches as well like any and everyone didn't know that CCP would look out for the money half of their exploits .. it's only profitable . Yes I seem but hurt because you can go 20 - 2 or 2 - 20 using these POS and get all the rewards from their use while those who aren't as fortunate and use ISK have to pay either way . Is , KDR profitable as currency ? I can use AURUM and not have to worry about ISK ever again . Is that a lie ??? This really sucks and these people will tell you that their good , they suck ... scrubs is what they are and nothing else , money wall hacks and people complain about scanners , at least the cost ISK .. militia and STD are just ADV . People complain about scanners but their nothing like these TRUE money / wall hacks that get everything and have to spend nothing but the initial payment and yes it's REAL currency but it's fracking up the economics of New Eden .. unless your one of these global captial fracks who buy elections and claim them to be legit ... it's true and plain scrubbery . Bullocks I call , Bullocks .. . CCP U SUCK FOR YOUR MONEY HACKERY . It's just like any other suit if your not upgrading the things on that suit I will have an advantage and I will kill you. You don't really sound like you play for fun, that's too bad. I love my APEX but you don't earn high ISK and i've got much better. You sound like maybe you need a break from Dust if APEX are making you that upset. Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy if possible........--- Stonewall Jackson

nelo kazuma THE LAST H0PE. RUST415 123	Posted - 2015.04.25 21:42:00 - [31] - Quote Me and several others who earned our bpos spent time effort and allot of isk for battles n 10 mill alone for suit. We busted our ass for our lp so no reason we shouldnt get to use it
shaman oga Dead Man's Game 4517	Posted - 2015.04.25 22:03:00 - [32] - Quote Don't you dare call one of my disciples coward We are brave triage units. Shifted in time, your tomorrow, my today.
Shamarskii Simon The Hundred Acre Hood Rise Of Legion. 381	Posted - 2015.04.25 22:09:00 - [33] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: But they are only marginally better than Starter suits.... Way better. A good example is this: I can have 2 high, 1 low (militia cal medium) of all basic or 5 high, 3 low (APEX) of all basic. That's 3x the low potential, and 2.5x the high potential. Ony difference is that you can't change the modules w/ APEX, but who cares? Still got lots more, for less price :-P I support Dropsuit tieracide. The ADS tourney! Join today!
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Rebels New Republic The Ditanian Alliance 2747	Posted - 2015.04.25 22:12:00 - [34] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: Im slowly earning my Tiger scout. Siiiiigh only 70kLP to go. Weeeeeeeeeeeee Should you use them in PUBS/FW? Hells yes. In PC? Hells nah. Despite the ridiculous mullah you can make & never lose sht. No APEX in PC. Problem solved. If you go the hard way & earn it, unless your running starter fits or full BPO suits you spend more time losing ISK because it was SUCH a great idea to get rid of ISK pay, so by the time you get it, if you have the opportunity to make back all your ISK and then some, id say you'd better run and enjoy that APEX suit as much as you can. Your a sane exception , they are changing this and making this profitable with later changes in the equation . People just don't understand how screw up this is and it's not just " Field your own APEX ." , that shouldn't be the answer to me , it's like bailing out the banks in the U.S. & E.U. ... you giving these same people carte blanch and the have not's have to suffer . Would have more LP had i not BEEN SICK through almost all the event. Well now i see your point. You get a BPO a set of your choice, make ISK. Now you have enough ISK coming out of all your orifices so you can run proto all le time. You start to lose ISK, you run APEX. So basically a never ending protostomp because you always have an Ace up you sleeve in case things get to hot. So, nothing has changed, it might have just made it a whole lot worse. Horay for logic thrown out the window! You are correct. So it be even more so when trading comes out, because people want BPOs, make whole BPO sets, cost NO ISK, so now the rich get richer, everyone is fair- ir unfair- game, and the ones not fortunate enough to have the ISK to pay up, almost get completely stamped out. Nothing has changed as far as DUST economy and thats going downhill fast unless theres some sort of system set to stop it. No idea what that system could be though. I am a ninja assassin, as i like to call Tactical Slayer Snake Eyes>All Beware, stubborn scout inbound
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 2185	Posted - 2015.04.25 22:21:00 - [35] - Quote My coward fiy is actually Dren c-1 Suit Krinns krinns krinns Exile ar toxin smg Locus nade nano Green bottle Suit costs like 1k isk and super glass cannony, i wuvs it. That reminds me, WTB quafe rr bpo when we can trade those. Here I was thinking you drove tanks, but clearly thats just your ego that you ride around in. -DUST fiend to Dark Cloud
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 1243	Posted - 2015.04.25 22:25:00 - [36] - Quote Well in the era of 4 on 14 stomps I am not going to throw proto suits away on a lost cause. Come to think of it the craptastic excuse of match making is probably designed to nudge more people into buying apex suits to cut their losses. I have suits across every tier of price from free to needlessly over expensive just because its fun to run fits. Depending on how the match goes determines what tier gets used. Proto galmando comes out if there is a lot of high level vehicles to harvest. Now if I have to charge around a corner to lob some plasma into a camped nest of reds you be its going to be my apex galmando, I don't need proto to kill infantry and equipment. Some times I am really on point killing everything I look at others I can't seem to hit the broad side of a barn so no I am not going to run proto those times. Your game is terrible, you should feel bad.
jane stalin Ametat Security Amarr Empire 284	Posted - 2015.04.25 22:28:00 - [37] - Quote I purchased 16 APEX suits with real world money and I don't play conservatively, I don't do this to annoy people, Getting rid of APEXs is not a solution to suicidal play, if someone wants to be suicidal they can just, AFK , use turrets and hack installations with their starter suits and earn a big pile of cash and then play a game with a large loss. I think their should be a game mode that discourages suicidal play, instead of 150 clones have 120 and make a spawn time penalty based on the number of deaths so you have to wait a long time to respawn if you have died loads of times.
jane stalin Ametat Security Amarr Empire 284	Posted - 2015.04.25 22:30:00 - [38] - Quote Soldner VonKuechle wrote: My coward fiy is actually Dren c-1 Suit Krinns krinns krinns Exile ar toxin smg Locus nade nano Green bottle Suit costs like 1k isk and super glass cannony, i wuvs it. That reminds me, WTB quafe rr bpo when we can trade those. Does the Krinns actually work for the AR? In the stats it only applies a damage bonus to the sidearm
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 2185	Posted - 2015.04.25 22:32:00 - [39] - Quote jane stalin wrote: Soldner VonKuechle wrote: My coward fiy is actually Dren c-1 Suit Krinns krinns krinns Exile ar toxin smg Locus nade nano Green bottle Suit costs like 1k isk and super glass cannony, i wuvs it. That reminds me, WTB quafe rr bpo when we can trade those. Does the Krinns actually work for the AR? In the stats it only applies a damage bonus to the sidearm Suppsoedly a glitch in display but functionally its there. Idk i shoot mercs, they die, a wind blows and i die. Its great! Here I was thinking you drove tanks, but clearly thats just your ego that you ride around in. -DUST fiend to Dark Cloud
Crimson ShieId Horizons' Edge 2403	Posted - 2015.04.25 22:33:00 - [40] - Quote I like my Nomad Assault... but I also chugged through around 10 million Isk just to get it. Those factionals are expensive, not to mention rather dull when you're obsessed with always winning them. My Plasma Cannon says "Hello" to your face~

7th Son 7 Escrow Removal and Acquisition 793	Posted - 2015.04.25 22:42:00 - [41] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Apex suits ... I would say BPO's but APEX suits for sure , there all reward and no effort beyond the money it cost to get them , I guess that's why their so popular but .. no consequences for any effort but all the rewards and now there a factor in the PC matches as well like any and everyone didn't know that CCP would look out for the money half of their exploits .. it's only profitable . Yes I seem but hurt because you can go 20 - 2 or 2 - 20 using these POS and get all the rewards from their use while those who aren't as fortunate and use ISK have to pay either way . Is , KDR profitable as currency ? I can use AURUM and not have to worry about ISK ever again . Is that a lie ??? This really sucks and these people will tell you that their good , they suck ... scrubs is what they are and nothing else , money wall hacks and people complain about scanners , at least the cost ISK .. militia and STD are just ADV . People complain about scanners but their nothing like these TRUE money / wall hacks that get everything and have to spend nothing but the initial payment and yes it's REAL currency but it's fracking up the economics of New Eden .. unless your one of these global captial fracks who buy elections and claim them to be legit ... it's true and plain scrubbery . Bullocks I call , Bullocks .. . CCP U SUCK FOR YOUR MONEY HACKERY . And just so i'm perfectly clear on what your saying. Are you suggesting ALL BPO's should be removed from the game because it's bad for the Dust economy? So BPO vehicles and everything, right? Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy if possible........--- Stonewall Jackson
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Back and Forth 7846	Posted - 2015.04.25 22:57:00 - [42] - Quote apex suits are just over glorified militia suits... Vote Viktor Hadah for CPM2 or i'll take your districts and hurt you. Get Dust ISK Here
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 1994	Posted - 2015.04.25 23:07:00 - [43] - Quote Yes with more slots and the fact that when you die it cost NOTHING in ISK's . Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed . #PubsShouldBeRandomPlayers
Scheneighnay McBob And the ButtPirates 6216	Posted - 2015.04.25 23:13:00 - [44] - Quote Hold on a second, in PC, how much ISK destroyed does an apex suit count as? I smell CCP farming off of tryhards. Some details can be ignored
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 1995	Posted - 2015.04.25 23:17:00 - [45] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Hold on a second, in PC, how much ISK destroyed does an apex suit count as? I smell CCP farming off of tryhards. They talked about it on the link , I don't have it to give so ... but they discussed it and it was complex but you know how things go when on paper and then implemented ... people love ideals as long as it's not " in-game " so to speak then they actually see and begin to think . Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed . #PubsShouldBeRandomPlayers
Mr.Pepe Le Pew Art.of.Death 83	Posted - 2015.04.26 00:01:00 - [46] - Quote Sorry to say, but, this is one of the dumbest posts/rants I've read in a while. CEO / Art.of.Death
Godin Thekiller Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 3131	Posted - 2015.04.26 00:10:00 - [47] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Apex suits ... I would say BPO's but APEX suits for sure , there all reward and no effort beyond the money it cost to get them , I guess that's why their so popular but .. no consequences for any effort but all the rewards and now there a factor in the PC matches as well like any and everyone didn't know that CCP would look out for the money half of their exploits .. it's only profitable . Yes I seem butt hurt because you can go 20 - 2 or 2 - 20 using these POS and get all the rewards from their use while those who aren't as fortunate and use ISK have to pay either way . Is , KDR profitable as currency ? I can use AURUM and not have to worry about ISK ever again . Is that a lie ??? This really sucks and these people will tell you that their good , they suck ... scrubs is what they are and nothing else , money wall hacks and people complain about scanners , at least the cost ISK .. militia and STD are just ADV . People complain about scanners but their nothing like these TRUE money / wall hacks that get everything and have to spend nothing but the initial payment and yes it's REAL currency but it's fracking up the economics of New Eden .. unless your one of these global captial fracks who buy elections and claim them to be legit ... it's true and plain scrubbery . Bullocks I call , Bullocks .. . CCP U SUCK FOR YOUR MONEY HACKERY . Oh, I was informed that you are a blubbering idiot. This looks like a troll to me. Carry on. click me Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Henrietta Unknown Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 1277	Posted - 2015.04.26 00:11:00 - [48] - Quote TBH, APEX suits are actually decent. Like standard suits. I use the 'Kampo', supposedly one of the worse ones, but I do well in it. And for free! Now consider if it was the 'Nomad' which I see everywhere... I suppose they don't want crutches nerfed. Selling Items Store - Code Bazaar
Booby Tuesdays Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 1551	Posted - 2015.04.26 00:12:00 - [49] - Quote Every person that has spent 50 - 100 million fighting in FW, and purchasing their APEX for ISK and LP, says your argument is invalid. Dedicated FW players help the economy more than mercs that pay real life money degrade it. You're gotdamn right I'll run that suit in Pubs. I earned it, and now it's time to earn back some of that burnt ISK. IF YOU CAN READ THIS YOU DON'T NEED GLASSES
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 1995	Posted - 2015.04.26 00:17:00 - [50] - Quote Booby Tuesdays wrote: Every person that has spent 50 - 100 million fighting in FW, and purchasing their APEX for ISK and LP, says your argument is invalid. Dedicated FW players help the economy more than mercs that pay real life money degrade it. You're gotdamn right I'll run that suit in Pubs. I earned it, and now it's time to earn back some of that burnt ISK. O.K. tough guy , Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed . #PubsShouldBeRandomPlayers

Booby Tuesdays Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 1551	Posted - 2015.04.26 00:24:00 - [51] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Booby Tuesdays wrote: Every person that has spent 50 - 100 million fighting in FW, and purchasing their APEX for ISK and LP, says your argument is invalid. Dedicated FW players help the economy more than mercs that pay real life money degrade it. You're gotdamn right I'll run that suit in Pubs. I earned it, and now it's time to earn back some of that burnt ISK. O.K. tough guy , Call it like I see it. I earned my 2 Apex suits. Why wouldn't I use them? Now with the new PC rewards, I 100% agree with your rant. That is some Grade 'A' Horseshit. IF YOU CAN READ THIS YOU DON'T NEED GLASSES
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 1995	Posted - 2015.04.26 00:32:00 - [52] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: Oh, I was informed that you are a blubbering idiot. This looks like a troll to me. Carry on. Thank you for stating the obvious , can you go a game or games or months or the whole existence of this game playing in a APEX suit and not have to spend a single Aurum .?. prob so .. how is that invalid .?. is there a class of people who don't or prob can't spend a single dime to purchase Aurum .?. prob so .. again , how is that invalid .?. oh through your elitist attitude .?. yes you have money to spend .. I have a BPO myself and spend on this game as well but I'm speaking as if I didn't have and the effects there of .. again , how is that invalid .?. Idiot .???.. an opinion from someone whom I've never seen , prob won't unless I go to a fanfest so that holds zero weight , all I'm speaking about are facts but those who contest have said instrument or suggests that I have or acquire such like that's the solution to the problem . It's not like they have a set amount of suits for a week , month or year .. you get unlimited , just like I do when I wear mines and I can do that as long as I play and now can profit from running such in a PC as well . Never played one but I can read and keep up on the news and this is and can not be good for the common folk and playing FW with long wait times , Q-sync stomp fests , pro stomping and such ( not complaining just stating the facts ) like small payouts .. to get a APEX from that and running boosters ( ) I'm all for that . I've said that , all you running to the defense would be thinking differently if the shoe was on the other foot . It's like how now you can get Aurum from your daily logons where before you couldn't finish a daily without spending Aurum on some and they had keys as well . The people with money , yeah they don't mind that .. they will just spend but what if you like some of you who complain about playing this game for fun after a long day of work but you can't because you have a majority who have a distinct advantage over you because they have that extra money to spend , while your scraping to get by and take this for relaxation ? Not the same huh ? Guess not when you can spend , you take that luxury for an advantage that you just don't realize others don't have . Guess that's not your problem huh forum .. or your concern CCP ? That's all I'm saying . Reclines back and cracks open a beer and lights a blunt of kush . Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed . #PubsShouldBeRandomPlayers
DaemonVok Axis of Chaos 22	Posted - 2015.04.26 01:48:00 - [53] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Apex suits ... I would say BPO's but APEX suits for sure , there all reward and no effort beyond the money it cost to get them , I guess that's why their so popular but .. no consequences for any effort but all the rewards and now there a factor in the PC matches as well like any and everyone didn't know that CCP would look out for the money half of their exploits .. it's only profitable . Yes I seem butt hurt because you can go 20 - 2 or 2 - 20 using these POS and get all the rewards from their use while those who aren't as fortunate and use ISK have to pay either way . Is , KDR profitable as currency ? I can use AURUM and not have to worry about ISK ever again . Is that a lie ??? This really sucks and these people will tell you that their good , they suck ... scrubs is what they are and nothing else , money wall hacks and people complain about scanners , at least the cost ISK .. militia and STD are just ADV . People complain about scanners but their nothing like these TRUE money / wall hacks that get everything and have to spend nothing but the initial payment and yes it's REAL currency but it's fracking up the economics of New Eden .. unless your one of these global captial fracks who buy elections and claim them to be legit ... it's true and plain scrubbery . Bullocks I call , Bullocks .. . CCP U SUCK FOR YOUR MONEY HACKERY . If nobody is going to correct you then I suppose it falls to me. Bpo suits and apex alike are great for making money without spending it. HOWEVER,the way CCP designed the New Eden economy is based on the sum meta level of your suit. So my bpo amarr assault and militia bpo ScR and toxin and all the other bpo stuff on it, makes my meta level pretty low, so I get almost nothing for going 20+ and 0. My suit may not cost me anything but I'm still barely making money. Also, think of the people that basically only put points into vehicles. Me again. Vehicles cost so much risk it's ridiculous because we lose them so freaking fast and often. So we use apex or bpo stuff to compensate. It's not all we ever run, you may see a lot in a battle but truth is, they're very weak and they're not really making much isk. Put it this way, I can go 25+ and 6 or less every battle in my militia/standard bpo gear,about 2000 wp, I would only make 275k at most... That's with the isk made from hacks and stuff and me being in 1st place. It's not easy money. It's effort to do good, contribute, and we still get no reward. So just calm down.
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game RUST415 1297	Posted - 2015.04.26 02:58:00 - [54] - Quote Kind of weird thread. I just want to add from myself few things : - Dust active playerbase is in large part rich - It's already too late for 'economy' talk. 90% of vets have [or at least they should have] more ISK than they'll ever need. Caldari Loyalist thecreaturehub fan Mejt0 Sale List
Operative 1174 Uuali Y.A.M.A.H 620	Posted - 2015.04.26 03:09:00 - [55] - Quote DUST was meant to be a microtransaction game. That they spent so long before they figured out how to do it right doesn't matter. Yes, DUST needs to make them income some way to stay viable. As much as it pains me to say GÇô it's about time the aurum suits were the goto fit. This matter was the number one thing about DUST going back to the whole RMT debacle in EVE. I absolutely expected to see the ga,e as it is now when ai first started playing. I was surprised that not only was it not like it is now with aurum purchases, but CCP even dropped the BPO purchases from the market. Wuh? Anyway, let's remember that this game is F2P, which means RMT to pay the devs. Say it with me, "When the going gets tough GÇô Rattati gotta eat! Death is a serious businessGÇª So is running a shoddy, half-baked game company.
hold that Capital Acquisitions LLC 793	Posted - 2015.04.26 03:10:00 - [56] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: militia and STD are just ADV . wtf
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 1303	Posted - 2015.04.26 03:10:00 - [57] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: One Eyed King wrote: But they are only marginally better than Starter suits.... I know but your under exaggerating the point of the fact that these people can run these suits and not have to spend another ISK ever again and that's a fact . Don't let them have 3 or more . I know the stats and all but it takes the game out of having to work for something that doesn't effect the user beyond the initial payment and if that's the effort then you can just buy your way to a win , crush the competition and just rack in the ISK hand over fist . Downplaying it is just compliance . You're complaining that someone spent $50 to get a Standard tier suit? I wouldn't complain, because if they do use them instead of standard suits, the people who kill them get more money than a standard. The user saves money, yes, but the attacker gains more money as a result of the suit "tier". If one team used only Apex, and the other used only Pay Standard, the Standard team would make a much larger income including paying back the loss of their suits. http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU Dust to Dust Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y 763	Posted - 2015.04.26 03:24:00 - [58] - Quote We all know, the only reason why your pitching a fit about them... It's because you don't have one yet c: How about you spend your time and earn enough LP like the rest of us who use them and get yourself one? Do you know how many games you have to play to actually get the suit? Yeah, you can pay real money to get your suits, how do you think this game is still running? It's because of those people that you can even play the game, it's the reason we get updates and such. They basically support the game with the money they spend on it so you and I can keep playing it. If you couldn't spend money on this game, it wouldn't have been around this long for you to even ***** about. I suggest you spend your time trying to get one rather then crying about it so you can save some money in the long run too. Also, if you manage to get the 100,000 lp and 10 mil required to get the suit, go look at how much proto you can get out of the loyalty store with it instead. 100's of proto fits you can make with that. But instead some of us choose to get a suit that will pay off more in the long run, and I do mean a long run. Friggin' blueberry ._. The new C.EO. of G.L.O.R.Y, (~..)~ Now on Youtube ~(..~)
five times Liverpool F.C. 122	Posted - 2015.04.26 03:25:00 - [59] - Quote don't forget the fact that bpo's support the development of the game, because they cost real money


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