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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
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Posted - 2015.04.24 09:24:00 -
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I noticed some peculiarities about matchmaking earlier today and mentioned them to Cross Atu (in particular I think I found a way to get into the 'lower' tier skill bracket of matches and wanted to make sure it was working properly / couldn't get abused in a manner that allows noobs vs bittervets as I was also noticing some other people I thought didn't really belong there) who suggested I send an email to the dust 514 feedback email address...
But between my ADHD and busting vehicles up with Cross Atu and Kaeru I forgot what the email was :(
I'm not sure that just a support ticket will get things quite to where I want them to go.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Flint Beastgood III
GunFall Mobilization
1706
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Posted - 2015.04.24 11:46:00 -
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Yes, there is a very simple way for vets to get into lower tier matches, and for noobs to get into higher tier matches.
Sidenote: I also believe the bar for the higher tier is not set high enough.
'LR4-Trading' Protester
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
8206
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Posted - 2015.04.24 11:52:00 -
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It's a known factor. it's been mentioned before. Cross knows aabout it I'm pretty sure.
AV
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Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
1099
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Posted - 2015.04.24 12:37:00 -
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It's quite easy to get into the lower skill bracket - you just change your server setting to 'America' |
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CCP Rattati
C C P
C C P Alliance
20993
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Posted - 2015.04.24 13:43:00 -
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Happy Violentime wrote:It's quite easy to get into the lower skill bracket - you just change your server setting to 'America'
BOOM!
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
9638
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Posted - 2015.04.24 13:45:00 -
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Happy Violentime wrote:It's quite easy to get into the lower skill bracket - you just change your server setting to 'America' LAWL SO FUNNEH 
No, but really, when I switch to Europe my KDR jumps up.
Does moving from one region to another disrupt your mu score or matchmaking or something?
@Ripley_Riley
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
2748
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Posted - 2015.04.24 13:48:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Happy Violentime wrote:It's quite easy to get into the lower skill bracket - you just change your server setting to 'America' BOOM!
Ah, now that you're here. Basically what happened was that I joined a public squad and it just so happened to have a lot of newer players, which sucked me into the lower tier bracket - that said I did see more than a few people running proto suits & weapons.
Is this supposed to be possible?
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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DarK KNigHT007
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
59
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Posted - 2015.04.24 13:57:00 -
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i find american server very hard.......
its squad up or die there every mathch i can see a full corp team on any 1 side
The MosT ImportanT ThinG U
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Vyuru
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
146
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Posted - 2015.04.24 14:18:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Happy Violentime wrote:It's quite easy to get into the lower skill bracket - you just change your server setting to 'America' BOOM!
Time to bring JLAVs to the European servers?
OHHH!
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Cat Merc
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
16159
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Posted - 2015.04.24 14:19:00 -
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American server is easier from my experience.
Just FYI: When you're playing on a foreign server on your timezone, you're probably playing up against the sleep deprived people who have nothing better to do with their time.
Cat Merc for C¦¦P¦¦M¦¦9¦¦ CPM Nyan!
Vote 'Keshava' for the new Gallente vehicle name!
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Kuruld Sengar
G.L.O.R.Y
318
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Posted - 2015.04.24 14:40:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:American server is easier from my experience.
Just FYI: When you're playing on a foreign server on your timezone, you're probably playing up against the sleep deprived people who have nothing better to do with their time.
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Denchlad 7
Ahrendee Inc.
Negative-Feedback
2139
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Posted - 2015.04.24 14:44:00 -
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I play on the US server at night because the matches are way easier and im normally too tired to care lol. Asian server is meh, EU server at prime time is the best.
"Dench stop hitting your head you Caldari pinball" - m6
Dench's Emporium of Everything! coming soon...
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
6382
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Posted - 2015.04.24 15:13:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Happy Violentime wrote:It's quite easy to get into the lower skill bracket - you just change your server setting to 'America' BOOM! Ah, now that you're here. Basically what happened was that I joined a public squad and it just so happened to have a lot of newer players, which sucked me into the lower tier bracket - that said I did see more than a few people running proto suits & weapons. Happened about 8-10 hours ago? Is this supposed to be possible?
New players can get sucked into the deep end the same way. It depends on the average MU of the squad.
But if this encourages experienced player to squad up with new players, is that such a bad thing?
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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ReGnYuM
Carne Con Papas
3681
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Posted - 2015.04.24 15:51:00 -
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Happy Violentime wrote:It's quite easy to get into the lower skill bracket - you just change your server setting to 'America'
Msg me when the EU actually does something of real significanc. Other then sueing Google or bailing out Greece. |
Her Chosen
Grade No.2
257
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Posted - 2015.04.24 15:53:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Happy Violentime wrote:It's quite easy to get into the lower skill bracket - you just change your server setting to 'America' LAWL SO FUNNEH No, but really, when I switch to Europe my KDR jumps up. Does moving from one region to another disrupt your mu score or matchmaking or something?
Ping.
And you safest bet is to be playing where Kazuika is not.
Nyquil anyone?
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Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
1188
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Posted - 2015.04.24 15:56:00 -
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2 days ago I got my new alt stuck in a never ending proto stomp fest. There was some well known names on that side too... beatin' up on little dudes. Each team I was put on got destroyed , lol.
I know it can't always be perfect..but I found that to be odd happening like 10 games in a row. |
KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
1945
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Posted - 2015.04.24 16:19:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Happy Violentime wrote:It's quite easy to get into the lower skill bracket - you just change your server setting to 'America' BOOM! Ah, now that you're here. Basically what happened was that I joined a public squad and it just so happened to have a lot of newer players, which sucked me into the lower tier bracket - that said I did see more than a few people running proto suits & weapons. Happened about 8-10 hours ago? Is this supposed to be possible?
Though I don't remember that being said being the way matchmaking handles the squads, that is the only sensible way I reckon it would work.
Working as intended. No exploit there as the squad has to joing somewhere and it couldn't and shouldn't depend on any single person but the average Mu of all.
IF the matchmaker would look only the squad leader's Mu, then the new matchmaking would be a design disaster and fubar beoynd all boundaries. I trust that Mr Rat has taken that into consideration.
(...Have you....?)
Looking at both sides of the coin.
Even Aurum one.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
1945
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Posted - 2015.04.24 16:21:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:
New players can get sucked into the deep end the same way. It depends on the average MU of the squad.
But if this encourages experienced player to squad up with new players, is that such a bad thing?
Both points: Spot on!
If hardcore vets mix themselves with juniors, then matchmaking works - not thru scotty but thru metamachmaking as players themselves create more balanced teams!!! Beautiful, just beautiful.
Looking at both sides of the coin.
Even Aurum one.
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The KTM DuKe
Dead Man's Game
144
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Posted - 2015.04.24 17:21:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:
New players can get sucked into the deep end the same way. It depends on the average MU of the squad.
But if this encourages experienced player to squad up with new players, is that such a bad thing?
Both points: Spot on! If hardcore vets mix themselves with juniors, then matchmaking works - not thru scotty but thru metamachmaking as players themselves create more balanced teams!!! Beautiful, just beautiful.
My squad use to do so,mix 3 open beta vets with 3 guys with an amount of SP not over 15-18 million but everytime we face full squads of vets or people that can use proto every match, i cant say they are happy of this..
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DEATH THE KlD
Seven Kin of Purgatory
192
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Posted - 2015.04.24 18:46:00 -
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I think the squad mu needs to be increased, solo players should not be put against full squads unless they have a squad on their side as well.. Though I would prefer all solo players get thrown into non squad matches |
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Thumb Green
The Valyrian Mercenary Army
2323
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Posted - 2015.04.24 18:53:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Happy Violentime wrote:It's quite easy to get into the lower skill bracket - you just change your server setting to 'America' BOOM! Ah, now that you're here. Basically what happened was that I joined a public squad and it just so happened to have a lot of newer players, which sucked me into the lower tier bracket - that said I did see more than a few people running proto suits & weapons. Happened about 8-10 hours ago? Is this supposed to be possible? New players can get sucked into the deep end the same way. It depends on the average MU of the squad. But if this encourages experienced player to squad up with new players, is that such a bad thing?
If the new players can't keep up because they got dragged into a higher tier.... yes it is a bad thing. It ain't that fun when all you're trying to do is keep up with the rest of your team and they're going to progress slower because they aren't getting as much WP's during a match as they normally would because they can't keep up and chances are they'll die a bit more because their cores aren't up and they're running basic or adv without the lvl 5 bonus backing it up.
Play the fucking objective you goddamn dipshits.
Rated [TV-MA]
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
6386
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Posted - 2015.04.24 19:05:00 -
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I like to squad up with a new player and then follow them around and just rip into anyone who shoots at them. This results in the new guy living longer and having a very enjoyable game. I try to teach the lesson that green dots are good to have around.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
9689
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Posted - 2015.04.24 20:02:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Happy Violentime wrote:It's quite easy to get into the lower skill bracket - you just change your server setting to 'America' BOOM!
I hope Psuedo knifes your main again.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Wilhelm Klingspor
DUST University
Ivy League
901
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Posted - 2015.04.24 20:24:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Happy Violentime wrote:It's quite easy to get into the lower skill bracket - you just change your server setting to 'America' Msg me when the EU actually does something of real significanc. Other then sueing Google or bailing out Greece.
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Foo Fighting
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
266
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Posted - 2015.04.24 21:04:00 -
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Whilst the Mu system can't account for who you choose to squad with, it will, at least, increase your Mu each time you play in the lower bracket - giving you tougher battles when you play in the top again (theoretically anyway). |
Eldest Dragon
Nos Nothi
486
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Posted - 2015.04.25 06:11:00 -
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DEATH THE KlD wrote:I think the squad mu needs to be increased, solo players should not be put against full squads unless they have a squad on their side as well.. Though I would prefer all solo players get thrown into non squad matches
Agreed, this has been a huge problem for me, and every time theres only 1 big squad in game, its almost always against me. Like me and 1 other vet can be the balancing factor.  |
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