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William HBonney
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.04.23 20:22:00 -
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I am not a fan of trust based trading, all because there are far too many people who would just get lawls out of screwing someone over because there are no real negative consequences to it. I have a channel with a PW set up for trades, when I am there I will happily be the point of contact so trades happen without fear. I will not charge for this service because I think the tax is enough and I have no need for extra isk, that being said, tips are nice. Keeping player count is good, player trading is good for that, but only in a secure setting. |
SoTa PoP
Ahrendee Inc.
Negative-Feedback
6512
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Posted - 2015.04.23 20:25:00 -
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William HBonney wrote:I am not a fan of trust based trading, all because there are far too many people who would just get lawls out of screwing someone over because there are no real negative consequences to it. I have a channel with a PW set up for trades, when I am there I will happily be the point of contact so trades happen without fear. I will not charge for this service because I think the tax is enough and I have no need for extra isk, that being said, tips are nice. Keeping player count is good, player trading is good for that, but only in a secure setting.
One of the few players in Dust 514 you can both trust and respect.
If you're looking for this kind of business/help - you can't go wrong with William HBonney.
SoTa PoP Approved.
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
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William HBonney
Ancient Exiles.
422
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Posted - 2015.04.23 20:29:00 -
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I honestly don't know if your endorsement will help or hinder player trust, but thank you, I can understand how it might be difficult to trust, my big fear is that player trading happens and many dust players don't visit the forums. They will get screwed because they won't know, CCP should probably make people VERY AWARE that player to player trading is a "gamble". I would hate to see the player base thin out even more because of a very cool feature addition. It would really defeat the purpose. |
SoTa PoP
Ahrendee Inc.
Negative-Feedback
6512
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Posted - 2015.04.23 20:48:00 -
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William HBonney wrote:I honestly don't know if your endorsement will help or hinder player trust, but thank you, I can understand how it might be difficult to trust, my big fear is that player trading happens and many dust players don't visit the forums. They will get screwed because they won't know, CCP should probably make people VERY AWARE that player to player trading is a "gamble". I would hate to see the player base thin out even more because of a very cool feature addition. It would really defeat the purpose.
I would hope it helps - I'm pretty straight forward in everything, so if you get an endorsement by me it typically means you earned it.
Bonney is right - these mechanics can serve to cause a lot of harm to the player-base as scammers begin to rise, some may even rise to power and upset other balances that need upsetting, to be honest.
Which is why I'm for this addition and how they added it - it really 'feels' like a new eden mechanic, and opens up business and meta on many levels then compared to a simple direct trade with no fees.
It also lets people like you and me who've been around making friends and connections really put them to use. People who can be trusted will find there lives in this game improved by this mechanic - and certain names black listed as there scams go public.
I'm excited to see it all play out
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
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William HBonney
Ancient Exiles.
422
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Posted - 2015.04.23 23:18:00 -
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It does keep it sandbox. I personally won't trade first, I am certain people will be dicks because there is no consequence, we cannot hunt them down and end their respawning days. |
Terry Webber
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
672
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Posted - 2015.04.23 23:37:00 -
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People will eventually learn to be more careful with trading. I know I won't fall for a deal that is too good to be true. |
Crimson ShieId
Horizons' Edge
2394
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Posted - 2015.04.24 00:13:00 -
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Given the loyalty rank 4 requirement for trading, there is actually a consequence. Screw someone over, especially a common forum goer, and you'll likely have issues getting people to trade with you again. Can't make alts to scam with on a regular basis, so once the name is tainted, you're kind of screwed unless you're willing to spend $20+ to get to rank 4.
My Plasma Cannon says "Hello" to your face~
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The Infected One
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
1513
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Posted - 2015.04.24 00:19:00 -
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I approve of this service.
I am here to ask you one question, and one question only: EXPLOSIONS?
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Bremen van Equis
Incorruptibles
396
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Posted - 2015.04.24 00:27:00 -
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It's a trap.
William H. Bonney is a serial killer from American history.
Why would you trust his namesake?
Buckle up, boysGǪthis ramp leads to space. -Axe Cop
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
1940
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Posted - 2015.04.24 01:59:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:William HBonney wrote:I am not a fan of trust based trading, all because there are far too many people who would just get lawls out of screwing someone over because there are no real negative consequences to it. I have a channel with a PW set up for trades, when I am there I will happily be the point of contact so trades happen without fear. I will not charge for this service because I think the tax is enough and I have no need for extra isk, that being said, tips are nice. Keeping player count is good, player trading is good for that, but only in a secure setting. One of the few players in Dust 514 you can both trust and respect. If you're looking for this kind of business/help - you can't go wrong with William HBonney. SoTa PoP Approved.
Both are ex-Imps and therefore totally unreliable.
This is a distrust vote.
Looking at both sides of the coin.
Even Aurum one.
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Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
1095
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Posted - 2015.04.24 02:29:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:William HBonney wrote:I am not a fan of trust based trading, all because there are far too many people who would just get lawls out of screwing someone over because there are no real negative consequences to it. I have a channel with a PW set up for trades, when I am there I will happily be the point of contact so trades happen without fear. I will not charge for this service because I think the tax is enough and I have no need for extra isk, that being said, tips are nice. Keeping player count is good, player trading is good for that, but only in a secure setting. One of the few players in Dust 514 you can both trust and respect. If you're looking for this kind of business/help - you can't go wrong with William HBonney. SoTa PoP Approved. Both are ex-Imps and therefore totally unreliable. This is a distrust vote.
^^this |
Eruditus 920
Nemo Malus Felix
1692
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Posted - 2015.04.24 02:37:00 -
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Bremen van Equis wrote:It's a trap.
William H. Bonney is a serial killer from American history.
Why would you trust his namesake?
LOL
You are obviously not an American.
Billy the Kid was an outlaw from the old American West. A gunslinger.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_the_Kid
No American has ever referred to him as a "serial killer".
That's too funny. Foreigners...
"Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
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SoTa PoP
Ahrendee Inc.
Negative-Feedback
6515
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Posted - 2015.04.24 02:49:00 -
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Happy Violentime wrote:KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:William HBonney wrote:I am not a fan of trust based trading, all because there are far too many people who would just get lawls out of screwing someone over because there are no real negative consequences to it. I have a channel with a PW set up for trades, when I am there I will happily be the point of contact so trades happen without fear. I will not charge for this service because I think the tax is enough and I have no need for extra isk, that being said, tips are nice. Keeping player count is good, player trading is good for that, but only in a secure setting. One of the few players in Dust 514 you can both trust and respect. If you're looking for this kind of business/help - you can't go wrong with William HBonney. SoTa PoP Approved. Both are ex-Imps and therefore totally unreliable. This is a distrust vote. ^^this
we're actually GJR alts 
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
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DEATH THE KlD
Seven Kin of Purgatory
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Posted - 2015.04.24 02:53:00 -
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Happy Violentime wrote:KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:William HBonney wrote:I am not a fan of trust based trading, all because there are far too many people who would just get lawls out of screwing someone over because there are no real negative consequences to it. I have a channel with a PW set up for trades, when I am there I will happily be the point of contact so trades happen without fear. I will not charge for this service because I think the tax is enough and I have no need for extra isk, that being said, tips are nice. Keeping player count is good, player trading is good for that, but only in a secure setting. One of the few players in Dust 514 you can both trust and respect. If you're looking for this kind of business/help - you can't go wrong with William HBonney. SoTa PoP Approved. Both are ex-Imps and therefore totally unreliable. This is a distrust vote. ^^this
Go through Heimdallr then. |
SoTa PoP
Ahrendee Inc.
Negative-Feedback
6515
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Posted - 2015.04.24 02:56:00 -
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DEATH THE KlD wrote:Happy Violentime wrote:KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:William HBonney wrote:I am not a fan of trust based trading, all because there are far too many people who would just get lawls out of screwing someone over because there are no real negative consequences to it. I have a channel with a PW set up for trades, when I am there I will happily be the point of contact so trades happen without fear. I will not charge for this service because I think the tax is enough and I have no need for extra isk, that being said, tips are nice. Keeping player count is good, player trading is good for that, but only in a secure setting. One of the few players in Dust 514 you can both trust and respect. If you're looking for this kind of business/help - you can't go wrong with William HBonney. SoTa PoP Approved. Both are ex-Imps and therefore totally unreliable. This is a distrust vote. ^^this Go through Heimdallr then.
I wouldn't.
you might get your merchandise but you'll lose your wife, sister and or daughter.
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
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TEBOW BAGGINS
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Posted - 2015.04.24 03:59:00 -
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Eruditus 920 wrote:Bremen van Equis wrote:It's a trap.
William H. Bonney is a serial killer from American history.
Why would you trust his namesake?
LOL You are obviously not an American. Billy the Kid was an outlaw from the old American West. A gunslinger. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_the_KidNo American has ever referred to him as a "serial killer". That's too funny. Foreigners...
ikr.. i'm glad i wasnt the only one having a WTF moment reading that bull sht. |
lDocHollidayl
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
583
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Posted - 2015.04.24 04:23:00 -
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This seems sound. Have a chat channel dedicated to aid in trading. No profit motive.. Just helping players enjoy the game. I imagine a reputation will be built and this will become the standsrd safe way of trading. I am just not sure how many players it could help. I like to play not sit in a chat channel trading for people for hours.
This said I trust Bonney with my life. And actually have before... Literally. He has no desire to dwindle player base. |
thor424
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2015.04.24 04:55:00 -
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lDocHollidayl wrote:This seems sound. Have a chat channel dedicated to aid in trading. No profit motive.. Just helping players enjoy the game. I imagine a reputation will be built and this will become the standsrd safe way of trading. I am just not sure how many players it could help. I like to play not sit in a chat channel trading for people for hours.
This said I trust Bonney with my life. And actually have before... Literally. He has no desire to dwindle player base.
You can't just say something like that and not tell the story.
I went to a baseball game with SirManBoy, but our lives were never threatened in any way.
Thor's Emporium
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
11546
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Posted - 2015.04.24 05:04:00 -
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Believe it or not, people seem to be drawn in to a game where you are allowed to get away with almost anything. Eve Online seems to attract such people. I suspect Dust will now grow mainly with players who love being in such a culture.
I don't know why, but I sure love to be living in Mos Eisley Spaceport where that Cantina is at right now.
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Kalante Schiffer
Ancient Exiles.
1103
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Posted - 2015.04.24 05:37:00 -
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I trust my corp mate more than 100% . He wont do anything to hurt the player base.
Apart from two people in the code baazar i wouldn't trade with anyone else in there with a 20th meter pole. Not even viktor he fks goats.
AE. Ringing fee. 2 isk.
yahoo is full of racists
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DEATH THE KlD
Seven Kin of Purgatory
192
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Posted - 2015.04.24 05:56:00 -
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Kalante Schiffer wrote:Not even viktor he fks goats.
Lmfao your post makes me love you
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GeorgeN76
Senshi Slayers
30
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Posted - 2015.04.24 09:46:00 -
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This is what we need, thumbs up!
Scouts and Swarms
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Bremen van Equis
Incorruptibles
398
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Posted - 2015.04.24 10:33:00 -
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Eruditus 920 wrote:Bremen van Equis wrote:It's a trap.
William H. Bonney is a serial killer from American history.
Why would you trust his namesake?
LOL You are obviously not an American. Billy the Kid was an outlaw from the old American West. A gunslinger. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_the_KidNo American has ever referred to him as a "serial killer". That's too funny. Foreigners...
This American was being tongue-in-cheek. Someone take your cowboy lunchbox away, Jeffrey?
Buckle up, boysGǪthis ramp leads to space. -Axe Cop
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I-Shayz-I
I----------I
5408
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Posted - 2015.04.24 11:29:00 -
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Yeah.
None of these people are trustworthy.
I'm a much better middleman to deal with, especially since I'm from a neutral corp and have a recording device to ensure that no one can say anything about not getting their items or money.
That and I genuinely enjoy helping the playerbase.
But then again this is new eden, and I don't care if people get screwed over by not researching the people they are trading with.
7162 wp with a Repair Tool!
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
8206
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Posted - 2015.04.24 11:50:00 -
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I, too, will be facilitating trade amongst the good folk of DUST.
AV
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Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
1099
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Posted - 2015.04.24 12:41:00 -
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lDocHollidayl wrote:This seems sound. Have a chat channel dedicated to aid in trading. No profit motive.. Just helping players enjoy the game. I imagine a reputation will be built and this will become the standsrd safe way of trading. I am just not sure how many players it could help. I like to play not sit in a chat channel trading for people for hours.
This said I trust Bonney with my life. And actually have before... Literally. He has no desire to dwindle player base.
Aren't you Bonneys brother???
So many shills in this thread.
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Barb Wilson
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.04.24 15:16:00 -
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This is feeling a bit like a set up. Anyhoo there is not much anyone can do to make sure trades are 100% safe nor anyway to avoid slander. I bet there will be a lot of "he said, she said" stuff happening. I do wonder if there will be a receipt of sorts to be used as proof. |
lDocHollidayl
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
584
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Posted - 2015.04.24 20:30:00 -
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Yup I am his brother. We go mountain climbing together. Came very close to meeting my maker. He actually carried / leaned me down 6 miles of mountain after an injury.
A recording devices seems awesome. Maybe that's the best. It looks like many people want to help with no profit motive. I hope everyone gets safe trades.
Like bonney said we don't wAnt player base to increase not people leaving due to scams. |
lDocHollidayl
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
584
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Posted - 2015.04.24 20:54:00 -
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Side topic, if any one has stat questions About officer gear ask away. I was lucky enough to win a few tournaments with many awards being officer gear. The newest named officer gear from our peers is really a step ahead of the older officer gear. The fittings are more intense to match the better stats though. |
Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
Back and Forth
7832
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Posted - 2015.04.24 20:59:00 -
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Kalante Schiffer wrote:I trust my corp mate more than 100% . He wont do anything to hurt the player base.
Apart from two people in the code baazar i wouldn't trade with anyone else in there with a 20th meter pole. Not even viktor he fks goats.
my heart...
is broken'd
Vote Viktor Hadah for CPM2 or i'll take your districts and hurt you.
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