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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.04.21 21:46:00 -
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Quick question about them to either CCP Rattati or other interested players.
Do we think they will differ in terms of base statistics including slot lay outs, PG and CPU, Armour and Shield, etc.
The reason I ask was that I've recently been confronted by the stark reality of the Armour Tank Meta wherein trying to shoot at an armour tank.....even in an armour tank feels pointless. To me right now all it feels like is Armour and Shield switched positions.
The reason I bring this up is because of the general attributes of the Amarr dropsuit content we have now.
- Slightly higher CPU and PG allocations
- Slightly higher Armour, Slightly lesser Shield Allocation
- Additional Low Slot, High Slot Removed
If that's the case I do not see it as unlikely that the following fits be generated [lets start with the worst offender]
1x 120mm Armour Plate
2x Armour Hardeners
2x Complex Armour Repairers
1x Damage Amplifier
1x Nitrous Injector
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1x 120mm Armour Plate
3x Armour Hardeners
1x Complex Armour Repairers
1x Damage Amplifier
1x Nitrous Injector
This may not be possible under CCP Rattati's model and he's likely given thought to this already but as it stands now if I were to skill into this kind of vehicle tomorrow under the stated assumptions this is the first manner by which I would try to abuse the new armour tank.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.04.22 02:36:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:That does seem like it will be a problem. Maybe if hardeners and reps were adjusted to fix that (nerfing hardeners by 5-10%, and making reps active again), maybe that won't be a big issue. Amarr HAV's will be built to be more of a stay there and take it due to being slower, so if reps were active but didn't last long, I doubt they being built around them would be good. It'll keep them from just tanking a massive amount of shots, and they won't be able to dodge shots like a Maddy can most likely, seeing as it'll be slower than a Gunnlogi, and nitros don't last long.
The only reason I bring this up is because I theoretically can take the best of two builds both of which are considered OP in their own way and combine them into one.
Nitro's may not last long but they are the perfect "get in, get out" tool.
But if my really rough math works out to be even remotely correct..... it's a really scary thought. At best it's essentially a perma-hardened Maddy with a few hundred more armour, at worst it's the double hardened Maddy of today with twice the rep power.
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And with strange aeons even death may die.GÇ¥
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.04.22 03:11:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Kierkegaard Soren wrote:As I understand it the new tanks aren't coming in this update, right? I didn't see them in the patch notes. This makes me believe that the next patch after this will be a tank patch, with the re-skins being the icing on the cake of what I hope will be a root and branch reworking of HAVs and drop ships. In which case, the tank meta as a whole is going to be rebalanced so that each racial HAV has something unique to offer. I have faith that such abuses will be nipped in the bud long before deployment. True will probably try to murder me for saying this, but I think we should get the Dropships and LAVs under the same progression system we have for the existing HAVs, before we add additional racial or specialist variations.
Don't really care much any more just wanted to point out potential exploitation in case anything did go live any time soon.
GÇ£That is not dead which can eternal lie,
And with strange aeons even death may die.GÇ¥
-The Nameless City
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