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Sgt Kirk
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Posted - 2015.04.21 07:47:00 -
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Hey, we are getting placeholder models for tanks right?
Why not the same with sniper rifles?
We already have the Roden Sniper Rifle. Roden is a Gallente Company. Roden is also the parent corp of Allotek Industries.
Allotek as we know in this game make an equipment that is not too native to the Gallente, The Allotek Nanohive.
It's not too far fetched at all for Gallente and Caldari to have some similarities, after all, Caldari was once a member of the Federation once upon a time. (Both can make use of Hybrid weapons)
Anywho, I like the fact that Gallente Finally get a rail weapon. It didn't make sense that we didn't but can we get a Standard and ADV version of the Roden Sniper Rifle? Repaint it to the Appropriate Gallente colors?
Do the same for Minmatar and Amarr as well.
Minmatar Should have at least a model for their precision rifle but if not a placeholder can be used as well.
I picture the Minmatar Sniper Rifle as more of a semi-automatic sniper rifle. It would have fast RoF and magsize with low recoil at the cost of damage and average range.
The Amarr really need a Long Range Sniper as well. We could easily just take the Charge shot function of the Sniper Rifle, put some gold on it, change the projectile to a laser and voila, Amarr Sniper Rifle!
But why stop there guys?
We can have different warheads for swarms like I've mentioned here
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Sgt Kirk
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Posted - 2015.04.21 13:49:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:I disagree with this, largely because not every race 'needs' a sniper rifle, nor does it fit into their doctrine.
A 'long range' weapon certainly, but this oprah style "EVERY RACE GETS A SNIPER, AND NEXT EVERY RACE GETS A SHOTGUN, LASER SHOTGUNS, LASER SNIPERS, PLASMA SNIPERS, RAIL SHOTGUNS!!!" is beyond ****ing dumb.
Skill into snipers if you want to use them, don't demand reskins for them.
You disagree with this largely because eve and that's not a reason.
These are ground infantry. Show me a military anywhere that only specializes in 1 specific type of ranged warfare.
And yes, every race needs a basic weapon that all races should have. I.e. Rifle, pistol, long range rifle, CQC weapon.
Do so that is like me saying that the Caldari shouldn't have an SMG.
Think behind that Caldari elitism mr. My race has literally everything in the game.
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Posted - 2015.04.21 14:01:00 -
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Ku Shala wrote:the real question is do we need snipers at all................ jk +1
bonus question is the laser rifle a sniper where does it fall in the game for category?
From a long time ago I remember the Laser Rifle being put into the Special weapons category. The Devs mentioned that Plasma Cannons, Mass Drivers, and Laser Rifles are all specialist weapons that will be specific for that race only. Coincidentally all those weapons you'd usually find or at least would want to pair on a commando...so support/AV weapons special class.
Other things like assault rifles (at the time we only had Gal and Amarr rifles) sniper rifles and pretty much any basic weapon that exist in the world today there will be racial variants for it "Soon" obviously not in their exact 1:1 form but giving the same function
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Sgt Kirk
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Posted - 2015.04.21 14:21:00 -
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But another Laser CQC weapon would be dumb?
You know it is possible for translation?
It is possible to have a take onto a certain weapon type. Take the bolt pistol, does it operate like a traditional pistol? No, its longer range and not too ideal for CQC combat when compared to the scrambler pistol. This doesn't automatically conclude that Bolt pistol is stupid and shouldn't exist. It's an example of this race needs a pistol, how does the races characteristics translate into this specific type of weapon.
Second over, I never said laser shotgun because I understand how that may conflict with them, you just threw out a straw man as you usually do. But, however, l will humor you on that.
laser Shotgun, could be more like a slug shotgun with a charged focused array that's wider than usual but still precise and short range.
Whatever it may be, a shotgun based laser would be more precise than the ideal shotgun but just as deadly.
Whatever it may be, a AV based laser weapon will be bases on precision and damage.
Etc. Etc.
You know why? Because its that races traits transformed into a weapon that has to fill a basic need.
And not to burst your bubble, you know how the AR was the first rifle? You know how many variants there are? Do you know why there were so many variants in the first place? To give you am idea of what other weapons might come in the future for the others.
Oh, it's like that for damn near all of the original weapons, sniper rifles included.
And, well wont you look at that. Caldari have a Nova Knife, according to you that's stupid and takes away from the races "caricature". Lets take out that nova knife and give it to Minmatar then because that's something they'd do right?
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Posted - 2015.04.21 14:32:00 -
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P.S. To last post. Second of all, you are literally arguing over semantics Mina as always. Sniper meant, long range weapon obviously and I thought it would be obvious that it would have its own functions and traits as I mentioned with the Minmatar Precision rifle "which was a confirmed weapon to be releases before **** hit the fan.
You went straight for "LASER SHOTGUNS OHH NOES!" "Repainted Gallente Shotgun with the same exact function but different damage profiles would be baaaad"
No **** it would be a bad idea.
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Posted - 2015.04.22 03:45:00 -
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Alena, the only reason I have a Problem with Nanites being Caldari is that they were heavily hinted to be Gallente in the beginning. The prefitted Gallente suits came with Nanites usually and the Caldari with a nanohive.
That and the damn thing I stylized in Gallente fashion. That's like calling the Amarr suit Minmatar
MINA that's me using your logic against you. Not strawmanning. As even True Adamance mocked you about your logic.
By your frame of mind you'd be missing a decent chunk of weapons.
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Sgt Kirk
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Posted - 2015.04.22 03:54:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Alena, the only reason I have a Problem with Nanites being Caldari is that they were heavily hinted to be Gallente in the beginning. The prefitted Gallente suits came with Nanites usually and the Caldari with a nanohive.
MINA that's me using your logic against you. Not strawmanning. As even True Adamance mocked you about your logic.
By your frame of mind you'd be missing a decent chunk of weapons. Hey don't bring me into this. I just don't really like the Caldari....at all. It doesn't help their case they currently also have the most content in the game and still find things to complain about.
Well after being handed everything to them for so long by dear dad and then cut cold turkey like that has to leave them a little bitter.
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Sgt Kirk
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Posted - 2015.04.22 03:58:00 -
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Read post 8 and 9 since you didn't get it in the first post.
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Sgt Kirk
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Posted - 2015.04.22 04:29:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Alena, the only reason I have a Problem with Nanites being Caldari is that they were heavily hinted to be Gallente in the beginning. The prefitted Gallente suits came with Nanites usually and the Caldari with a nanohive.
That and the damn thing I stylized in Gallente fashion. That's like calling the Amarr suit Minmatar
But I still would argue that Gallente wouldn't really make a dedicated sniper, but they would definitely see the use in a Designated Marksman Rifle. Perhaps it fires superheated plasma out to about 150m and does a button of damage. Plasma Lance or something.
Gallente use Hybrid Weapons
Gallente use Railguns
The lack of EVE knowledge thanks to early CCP mistakes has caused people to think that Gallente don't use Railguns.
We were the ones who invented the damn things.
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