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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
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Posted - 2015.04.21 13:38:00 -
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I disagree with this, largely because not every race 'needs' a sniper rifle, nor does it fit into their doctrine.
A 'long range' weapon certainly, but this oprah style "EVERY RACE GETS A SNIPER, AND NEXT EVERY RACE GETS A SHOTGUN, LASER SHOTGUNS, LASER SNIPERS, PLASMA SNIPERS, RAIL SHOTGUNS!!!" is beyond ****ing dumb.
Skill into snipers if you want to use them, don't demand reskins for them.
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
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Posted - 2015.04.21 14:02:00 -
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No, my reasoning isn't predicated upon 'because eve'. It's because things like 'laser shotgun' are beyond dumb and do nothing but present a horribly misinterpreted and narrow caricature of the respective races. I will certainly agree that other races need more things, but these things do not need to be so incredibly specific as '[damage type] [sniper]' as that narrows the view of what weapons could be quite considerably.
For an example of what I feel the amarr smg or heavy weapon should be, look to something like the fusion rifle from destiny. As for what I feel the amarr 'shotgun' should be, I'd look more towards something like a doom style rocket launcher (representing khanid kingdom weaponry).
I've also spoken at length on how I feel like a flaylock rifle would make an awesome minmatar weapon. If I had a good idea for a gallente 'smg' equivalent I'd happily post about it.
But hey, let's just throw accusations that I'm biased because 'my race has everything' when I have four accounts and have at least some experience playing everything in the damn game. Lets stick with caricatures though kirk, I'm sure that it'd be easier for you.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
2684
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Posted - 2015.04.21 23:14:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:P.S. To last post. Second of all, you are literally arguing over semantics Mina as always. Sniper meant, long range weapon obviously and I thought it would be obvious that it would have its own functions and traits as I mentioned with the Minmatar Precision rifle "which was a confirmed weapon to be releases before **** hit the fan.
You went straight for "LASER SHOTGUNS OHH NOES!" "Repainted Gallente Shotgun with the same exact function but different damage profiles would be baaaad"
No **** it would be a bad idea.
If I'm arguing semantics it's because of how you've failed to describe things kirk. I'm not even going to attempt to address most of what you've said because it's pretty clear you weren't actually reading what I've said.
Even your description can be summarized as 'well they'd use lasers for EVERYTHING' portrays just the kind of misunderstood caricature that I'm concerned about. "Laser av" "Laser [x]" "Laser [y]" "big laser that does [z]", there is significantly more breadth and depth to the amarr than 'hurr durr lasers!", same thing for minmatar who I actually feel have the most healthy weapons from a design sense. The caldari and gallente both very-much suffer from rail/plasma x, y, big rail/plasma z, the only redeeming factors for the caldari being swarms / missiles
And if you want to talk about strawmanning kirk, when have I ever called the nova knife stupid or claimed that it presents a misunderstood interpretation of caldari weaponry or people? Oh right I haven't, you tried to put those words in my mouth.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
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Posted - 2015.04.22 03:56:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Alena, the only reason I have a Problem with Nanites being Caldari is that they were heavily hinted to be Gallente in the beginning. The prefitted Gallente suits came with Nanites usually and the Caldari with a nanohive.
That and the damn thing I stylized in Gallente fashion. That's like calling the Amarr suit Minmatar
MINA that's me using your logic against you. Not strawmanning. As even True Adamance mocked you about your logic.
By your frame of mind you'd be missing a decent chunk of weapons.
I don't have any problems admitting that I dislike the caldari lineup of 'small rail, small rail, medium rail, long range rail, and huge rail', to me one of the only redeeming features to it is that there is a swarm launcher, that highlights use of missiles.
I personally believe that the only 'parity' between races should be pistol, 'smg', rifle, light 'av', heavy 'av', and heavy 'ai'... anything beyond that should be their own flavor of special weapon aka, there does not need to be 'sniper' parity but each race should have a long range weapon option. There does not need to be 'shotgun' parity but each range should have a 'close range' option (relative to their race).
The idea of 'shotgun' parity with pepperbox rails / lasers to me is beyond daft and those are the exact ideas you give people with '[racial] shotgun'.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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