DUST Search - Learning from EVE Valkyrie: First-Person-Immersion

Mobius Wyvern wrote:

Project Legion B-Roll

Part of what was good about this demonstration was it showed an attempt to better immerse the player via UI elements that move with the character. This better makes you feel like you're actually the character rather than a disembodied camera.

With that in mind, look at this: EVE Valkyrie Gameplay Trailer

CCP Newcastle has gone to great lengths to make a player wearing a VR headset feel like they are in the cockpit of a starfighter. This work can benefit Dust in terms of working with the UI and sound in the game to give a similar feeling to Dust players.

One of the aspects of the Replication Build (early Closed-Beta) that was superior to what we have now was the sound of the character breathing inside the helmet and the slight bobbing of the UI elements. These two elements combined made you feel more engaged in the experience.

I'm not sure if it's possible to bring those elements back, but if so, combining that with the current goal of improving framerates might be another element to make the gameplay a bit more engaging.

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Mobius Wyvern Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 6149	Posted - 2015.04.20 15:26:00 - [1] - Quote Project Legion B-Roll Part of what was good about this demonstration was it showed an attempt to better immerse the player via UI elements that move with the character. This better makes you feel like you're actually the character rather than a disembodied camera. With that in mind, look at this: EVE Valkyrie Gameplay Trailer CCP Newcastle has gone to great lengths to make a player wearing a VR headset feel like they are in the cockpit of a starfighter. This work can benefit Dust in terms of working with the UI and sound in the game to give a similar feeling to Dust players. One of the aspects of the Replication Build (early Closed-Beta) that was superior to what we have now was the sound of the character breathing inside the helmet and the slight bobbing of the UI elements. These two elements combined made you feel more engaged in the experience. I'm not sure if it's possible to bring those elements back, but if so, combining that with the current goal of improving framerates might be another element to make the gameplay a bit more engaging. I support Keshava for Gallente Specialist HAV R.I.P. Kesha
Isa Lucifer Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 199	Posted - 2015.04.20 17:17:00 - [2] - Quote Good points. I was not around in Replication Build, so I have not experienced what your saying, but it sounds better than we have now. Rattati, I hope you see this. Amarr Victor
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 1489	Posted - 2015.04.20 17:27:00 - [3] - Quote I remember that actually (I have a terrible memory of past iterations...) and it was really good for immersion. If it could be brought back it'd be brilliant. Alt of Halla Murr. Sentinel.
Mobius Wyvern Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 6155	Posted - 2015.04.20 19:20:00 - [4] - Quote Kallas Hallytyr wrote: I remember that actually (I have a terrible memory of past iterations...) and it was really good for immersion. If it could be brought back it'd be brilliant. I think that could be a good point in this game's favor as far as how it stacks up against other games. I support Keshava for Gallente Specialist HAV R.I.P. Kesha
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H 327	Posted - 2015.04.20 20:39:00 - [5] - Quote It makes me really bitter they go on to develop games like these yet leave dust to rot...... Dust 514: Unlimited Scrub Works
Kaeru Nayiri Ready to Play 970	Posted - 2015.04.20 21:38:00 - [6] - Quote Kallas Hallytyr wrote: I remember that actually (I have a terrible memory of past iterations...) and it was really good for immersion. If it could be brought back it'd be brilliant. Would love to see those elements brought back, very, very much ! +1 Know what cannot be known.
Mobius Wyvern Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 6163	Posted - 2015.04.21 00:08:00 - [7] - Quote Georgia Xavier wrote: It makes me really bitter they go on to develop games like these yet leave dust to rot...... Hopefully some success with Valkyrie will be a bit of a confidence booster for the company. That'll probably help get more focus back on Dust again. I support Keshava for Gallente Specialist HAV R.I.P. Kesha
Golden Day Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 1387	Posted - 2015.04.21 00:37:00 - [8] - Quote Im so moist for valkeyrie on ps4.... I once headshot sgit kirk with a sniper rifle once you know If you ask him he would say im a true Caldari ( -á° -ƒ+ä-£ -í°)
Mobius Wyvern Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 6163	Posted - 2015.04.21 00:51:00 - [9] - Quote Golden Day wrote: Im so moist for valkeyrie on ps4.... Another reason I'm a little more hopeful for Dust. Having success with that game on the PS4 may get them back in the groove for developing this one. I support Keshava for Gallente Specialist HAV R.I.P. Kesha
Golden Day Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 1388	Posted - 2015.04.21 00:52:00 - [10] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Golden Day wrote: Im so moist for valkeyrie on ps4.... Another reason I'm a little more hopeful for Dust. Having success with that game on the PS4 may get them back in the groove for developing this one. I just hope the morpheus (Oculus Rift for Ps4) comes out at a reasonable price..... I once headshot sgit kirk with a sniper rifle once you know If you ask him he would say im a true Caldari ( -á° -ƒ+ä-£ -í°)

Godin Thekiller Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 3117	Posted - 2015.04.21 01:31:00 - [11] - Quote Golden Day wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Golden Day wrote: Im so moist for valkeyrie on ps4.... Another reason I'm a little more hopeful for Dust. Having success with that game on the PS4 may get them back in the groove for developing this one. I just hope the morpheus (Oculus Rift for Ps4) comes out at a reasonable price..... I imagine anywhere from $75-$200. I mean, it is a most part a relatively small 1080p screen,some projectors, and some other instruments inside of a plastic casing, and sony tends to price things decently, so it shouldn't be too costly. the only reason why The OR is $300 is because it's a prototype, and those kinds of products usually cost way more than the consumer release. We can reasonably expect them to be like, at the most, as I said $200, but I expect it to be around 125-150 most likely. That samsung VR thing (whatever the ** they are calling it) WILL however be through the roof in the price, as they overcharge the ** out of everything for some reason. Kind of like Micro$soft. click me Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Godin Thekiller Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 3117	Posted - 2015.04.21 01:34:00 - [12] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Project Legion B-Roll Part of what was good about this demonstration was it showed an attempt to better immerse the player via UI elements that move with the character. This better makes you feel like you're actually the character rather than a disembodied camera. With that in mind, look at this: EVE Valkyrie Gameplay Trailer CCP Newcastle has gone to great lengths to make a player wearing a VR headset feel like they are in the cockpit of a starfighter. This work can benefit Dust in terms of working with the UI and sound in the game to give a similar feeling to Dust players. One of the aspects of the Replication Build (early Closed-Beta) that was superior to what we have now was the sound of the character breathing inside the helmet and the slight bobbing of the UI elements. These two elements combined made you feel more engaged in the experience. I'm not sure if it's possible to bring those elements back, but if so, combining that with the current goal of improving framerates might be another element to make the gameplay a bit more engaging. and all of those visual effects. Can't forget about those, and the ones added later on in Codex. they were sadl removed for FPS improvements, but we could get them back (and looking better) if we moved to X86 platforms...... click me Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Godin Thekiller Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 3117	Posted - 2015.04.21 01:36:00 - [13] - Quote Hopefully Valk on PS4 is a success, so the marketing team can tell Rouge and co. to stop what they are doing in Legion, take the decent parts that we like so far about it (as in show us what's gone on so far, and we say what 's the good ****), and then start working on Dust for PS4 click me Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-


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