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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.04.20 13:34:00 -
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Of having to open useless thread because people are still able to steal vehicles.
Shifted in time, your tomorrow, my today.
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Mobius Wyvern
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
6146
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Posted - 2015.04.20 13:43:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:Of having to open useless thread because people are still able to steal vehicles.
inb4 posts claiming stealing tanks from teamates is a legitimate game mechanic
I support Keshava for Gallente Specialist HAV
R.I.P. Kesha
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DUST Fiend
16451
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Posted - 2015.04.20 13:57:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:shaman oga wrote:Of having to open useless thread because people are still able to steal vehicles. inb4 posts claiming stealing tanks from teamates is a legitimate game mechanic
WUT IZ SKWAD LAQ BROH DEW YEW IVIN TAKTIX?!
"My bitter is showing. I must retreat to the berry patch."
STUFF
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ROTFL
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
48
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Posted - 2015.04.20 14:03:00 -
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Step one, dont get out vehicle. ....
Knowing is half the battle! The other half involves guns! GI JOE!
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
6299
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Posted - 2015.04.20 14:04:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:shaman oga wrote:Of having to open useless thread because people are still able to steal vehicles. inb4 posts claiming stealing tanks from teamates is a legitimate game mechanic
It would be if they had to hack it.
They should change the ownership on vehicles to be the person who has control of the vehicle, rather than the person who brings it into the match. Blues, as well as Reds should have to hack it to use it. Whoever controls it at the end of the match gets it in their inventory. Only Greens should be able to barrow someone's vehicle without it requiring a Hack and changing ownership.
LAV BPO's should spawn single use BPC's which disappear a the end of the match (to avoid exploits), but anyone who hacks one should still get any non BPO modules that were fitted on it.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
4454
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Posted - 2015.04.20 14:11:00 -
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ROTFL wrote:Step one, dont get out vehicle. ....
Oh boy, you don't need to get out of the vehicle, they can steal it with you inside.
Shifted in time, your tomorrow, my today.
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Mobius Wyvern
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
6146
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Posted - 2015.04.20 14:25:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:ROTFL wrote:Step one, dont get out vehicle. ....
Oh boy, you don't need to get out of the vehicle, they can steal it with you inside.
Yeah, if you happen to fatfinger the seat switch button they can hop right into the driver's seat and there's nothing you can do about it.
I support Keshava for Gallente Specialist HAV
R.I.P. Kesha
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Nos Nothi
4553
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Posted - 2015.04.20 14:43:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:shaman oga wrote:ROTFL wrote:Step one, dont get out vehicle. ....
Oh boy, you don't need to get out of the vehicle, they can steal it with you inside. Yeah, if you happen to fatfinger the seat switch button they can hop right into the driver's seat and there's nothing you can do about it.
this is why I want a solo tank.
I'm happy to run with people if I happen to be in squad with people who want to drive shotgun, but if not, you bet your arse I'm staying well away from anyone who happens to be blue. And sometimes green.
Nobody panic! My 'like' button is fixed!
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Cat Merc
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
16016
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Posted - 2015.04.20 14:52:00 -
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http://i.imgur.com/jaQWOv9.gif
Cat Merc for C¦¦P¦¦M¦¦9¦¦ CPM Nyan!
Vote 'Keshava' for the new Gallente vehicle name!
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
6161
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Posted - 2015.04.20 14:53:00 -
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Working as intended, IMHO.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
4456
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Posted - 2015.04.20 15:42:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Working as intended, IMHO.
When someone will enter your fitting list and use one, then it will be working as intended.
Shifted in time, your tomorrow, my today.
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Scheneighnay McBob
And the ButtPirates
6099
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Posted - 2015.04.20 15:48:00 -
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You have to be an absolute ****** in order for someone to steal your vehicle.
Some details can be ignored
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VAHZZ
Arrary of Clusters
1457
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Posted - 2015.04.20 16:29:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:http://i.imgur.com/jaQWOv9.gif
Rename thread saltshaker
If you expect the worst, you'll never be disappointed.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
8169
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Posted - 2015.04.20 16:51:00 -
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Oh right, It's been so long I forgot I can do this. Thanks for the reminder Oga. I got me some maddies to ahhh...
Re-purpose.
AV
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
4456
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Posted - 2015.04.20 17:03:00 -
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Always pleased to re-activate your goon spirit.
Shifted in time, your tomorrow, my today.
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Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
1073
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Posted - 2015.04.20 17:09:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Working as intended, IMHO.
Hope you don't plan on running for CPM2 then. |
hails8n
DEATH BY DESTRUCTION
97
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Posted - 2015.04.20 17:16:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:You have to be an absolute ****** in order for someone to steal your vehicle.
Here I am recalling my tank, switching it out for a new one and a friendly drop ship comes crashing into me pushes me aside and steals my maxed out gunlogi.
Petition to ban the trainyard map.
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Balistyc Farshot
OUTCAST MERCS
General Tso's Alliance
144
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Posted - 2015.04.20 17:19:00 -
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So someone will GTA you. Why not just shrug it off? Everyone on this forum string has the isk for it. Just shrug and see it as an opportunity for you to learn the mechanic better.
Ok, I hate REs and Blues. So I am going to use them until they stop me!
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DUST Fiend
16453
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Posted - 2015.04.20 17:22:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Working as intended, IMHO.
Poorly designed was definitely intended, I totally agree. Best CPM ever.
"My bitter is showing. I must retreat to the berry patch."
STUFF
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Onesimus Tarsus
is-a-Corporation
3309
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Posted - 2015.04.20 18:26:00 -
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Dear CCP:
Please remove tanks from the game, the anxiety of losing them in battle is killing some of us.
Your stud,
O to the T
As of April 9, 2015, we have about 330 days of DUST 514 left. Enjoy them!
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
3389
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Posted - 2015.04.20 18:29:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:Always pleased to re-activate your goon spirit.
Once a goon, forever a goon. Scourge of the EVE universe  lol. Still, they stuck out that game longer than we did..... *sob* I miss Kenny, IT etc....
Vitantur Nothus wrote: Why hide a solution under frothy pile of derpa?
SCV Ready!
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
1936
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Posted - 2015.04.20 19:22:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Working as intended, IMHO.
Can't be.
Looking at both sides of the coin.
Even Aurum one.
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DUST Fiend
16458
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Posted - 2015.04.20 19:23:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:shaman oga wrote:Always pleased to re-activate your goon spirit. Once a goon, forever a goon. Scourge of the EVE universe lol. Still, they stuck out that game longer than we did..... *sob* I miss Kenny, IT etc....
I'm like some freakish half goon, having only been in Immobile Infantry 
"My bitter is showing. I must retreat to the berry patch."
STUFF
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ROTFL
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
51
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Posted - 2015.04.20 20:26:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:shaman oga wrote:ROTFL wrote:Step one, dont get out vehicle. ....
Oh boy, you don't need to get out of the vehicle, they can steal it with you inside. Yeah, if you happen to fatfinger the seat switch button they can hop right into the driver's seat and there's nothing you can do about it.
Step two, dont add any turrets...
Knowing is half the battle! The other half involves guns! GI JOE!
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
18382
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Posted - 2015.04.20 20:38:00 -
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I stole a dropsuit from its owner once. Was great.
That merc had to run around in embarrassing Militia purple tiger stripe satin boxers for an entire battle.
GÇ£That is not dead which can eternal lie,
And with strange aeons even death may die.GÇ¥
-The Nameless City
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Vesta Opalus
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
626
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Posted - 2015.04.20 20:47:00 -
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ROTFL wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:shaman oga wrote:ROTFL wrote:Step one, dont get out vehicle. ....
Oh boy, you don't need to get out of the vehicle, they can steal it with you inside. Yeah, if you happen to fatfinger the seat switch button they can hop right into the driver's seat and there's nothing you can do about it. Step two, dont add any turrets...
Y... yo... you havent played vehicles lately have you? |
Nevyn Tazinas
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
79
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Posted - 2015.04.20 20:51:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:I stole a dropsuit from its owner once. Was great.
That merc had to run around in embarrassing Militia purple tiger stripe satin boxers for an entire battle.
I'm game! My suits normally feel that weak anyway so I'll do the satin boxers! |
JJ'S
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
98
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Posted - 2015.04.20 20:55:00 -
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ROTFL wrote:Step one, don't get out of vehicle. ....
Aslong as one of the steps doesn't involve you contemplating how CCP created a call in mechanic for the New Eden Galaxy with no lock or ability to secure the asset and not expect there to be massive issues..
Then leave it for 3 years.
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Sicerly Yaw
Quantum times
89
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Posted - 2015.04.20 22:35:00 -
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hails8n wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:You have to be an absolute ****** in order for someone to steal your vehicle. Here I am recalling my tank, switching it out for a new one and a friendly drop ship comes crashing into me pushes me aside and steals my maxed out gunlogi.
like in EvE so in dust, what I mean is you shouldnt bring anything into the battlefield without expecting it to be a loss anything you manage to still have by the end of the match should be considered part of the loot
if you can't afford to lose it don't even bring it out in the first place, this isn't necessarily aimed at anyone just general knowledge
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.04.20 22:47:00 -
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Sicerly Yaw wrote:
like in EvE so in dust, what I mean is you shouldnt bring anything into the battlefield without expecting it to be a loss anything you manage to still have by the end of the match should be considered part of the loot
if you can't afford to lose it don't even bring it out in the first place, this isn't necessarily aimed at anyone just general knowledge
I've played EVE trial and nobody stole my assets, even when i jumped many systems away from where most of my stuff was stored.
Lose your stuff because the enemy destroy it, is fine, lose your stuff because some of your allies steal it is not fine.
All the arguments in defense of this theory are lame, this is just not how the rest of the game treat assets.
Shifted in time, your tomorrow, my today.
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Flint Beastgood III
GunFall Mobilization
1694
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Posted - 2015.04.20 23:12:00 -
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Don't expect this to ever be fixed.
'LR4-Trading' Protester
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Vyzion Eyri
WarRavens
2820
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Posted - 2015.04.21 01:10:00 -
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The question is if your vehicle is abandoned in the middle of the battlefield, do you want teammates to be able to take it and MAYBE cause more damage, or the enemy to hack it and hinder your team?
If you pick the former, then the question becomes "how limited do you want your team to be in accessing your vehicle, whilst still being able to save a vehicle?"
Add vehicle locks and before you know it, the same people who want vehicle locks will probably get vocal about getting frustrated about how vehicle locks are preventing you from getting into a teammate's tank and driving it away before enemies blow it up or hack it.
One solution is vehicle locks that only 'unlock' when the original pilot is dead. But then what about calling in vehicles for squad / team mates?
It might not be working as intended as Soraya says, but I doubt there is a good solution either. If it were so bleeding obvious, this thread wouldn't be here and a suggestion would be in the Feature sub-forum.
I adopt an EVE ship mentality when I call in vehicles. As soon as I call it in, I assume it's gone. Same thing with my prototype dropsuits. Don't use what you can't afford to lose; welcome to New Eden.
> Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
4465
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Posted - 2015.04.21 08:05:00 -
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Vyzion Eyri wrote:The question is if your vehicle is abandoned in the middle of the battlefield, do you want teammates to be able to take it and MAYBE cause more damage, or the enemy to hack it and hinder your team?
If you pick the former, then the question becomes "how limited do you want your team to be in accessing your vehicle, whilst still being able to save a vehicle?"
Add vehicle locks and before you know it, the same people who want vehicle locks will probably get vocal about getting frustrated about how vehicle locks are preventing you from getting into a teammate's tank and driving it away before enemies blow it up or hack it.
One solution is vehicle locks that only 'unlock' when the original pilot is dead. But then what about calling in vehicles for squad / team mates?
It might not be working as intended as Soraya says, but I doubt there is a good solution either. If it were so bleeding obvious, this thread wouldn't be here and a suggestion would be in the Feature sub-forum.
This is all about ownership, ownership of the vehicle never changes and i think that is the main problem about locking DRIVER seat.
If i call a vehicle, it's because i have to pilot it, i've bought it. I can't access the dropsuit fitting of my friends just because they are my friends, with vehicles it should be the same.
If you abandon it, the risk is yours, i support the idea of hacking to change ownership, that is actually a good mechanic, but with driver seat lock too.
Vyzion Eyri wrote:I adopt an EVE ship mentality when I call in vehicles. As soon as I call it in, I assume it's gone. Same thing with my prototype dropsuits. Don't use what you can't afford to lose; welcome to New Eden.
Technically, everything you call in is considered gone since you will have -1 of it in your fittings.
But there is a difference between, gone because the enemy destroy it or gone because one of your allies decide to steal your stuff.
For the first is a matter of your ability against the ability of your enemy, for the latter you have no counter, if not be paranoid.
Shifted in time, your tomorrow, my today.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Nos Nothi
4556
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Posted - 2015.04.21 09:29:00 -
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Vyzion Eyri wrote:Add vehicle locks and before you know it, the same people who want vehicle locks will probably get vocal about getting frustrated about how vehicle locks are preventing you from getting into a teammate's tank and driving it away before enemies blow it up or hack it..
But the people who actually own the tanks are seriously unlikely to have any issue with it, considering it's their assets being secured.
Soraya Xel wrote:Working as intended, IMHO.
Guess who ain't getting my vote next time around!?!
Nobody panic! My 'like' button is fixed!
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Blake Kingston
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
222
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Posted - 2015.04.21 10:30:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Working as intended, IMHO.
Please spell out the exact details of this intention. |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
8182
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Posted - 2015.04.22 10:57:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:
Guess who ain't getting my vote next time around!?!
Vote for me. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be worse.
AV
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
2686
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Posted - 2015.04.22 15:13:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:shaman oga wrote:Of having to open useless thread because people are still able to steal vehicles. inb4 posts claiming stealing tanks from teamates is a legitimate game mechanic
inb4 posts from Devs claiming stealing tanks from teamates is a legitimate game mechanic
PSN: RationalSpark
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
2686
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Posted - 2015.04.22 15:17:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Vyzion Eyri wrote:Add vehicle locks and before you know it, the same people who want vehicle locks will probably get vocal about getting frustrated about how vehicle locks are preventing you from getting into a teammate's tank and driving it away before enemies blow it up or hack it.. But the people who actually own the tanks are seriously unlikely to have any issue with it, considering it's their assets being secured. Soraya Xel wrote:Working as intended, IMHO. Guess who ain't getting my vote next time around!?!
Agreed.
PSN: RationalSpark
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