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this can go the easy way, or the way in which I roden's you from the other side of the map, your choice..........

Is it worth putting Precision Enhancers on a Gal Logi?

So, I was bored today, and went min sentinel 5 and hmg pro 5... :D

So, I was wondering, now that I have (finally) gotten my proto scout what logi I should skill into next.

I am leaning towards the cal logi, but I thought I would ask for your opinions before I make a move, because I am pretty sure that you guys know more about this than I do.

Opinions, or thoughts?

I have a question...

Why has my K/D skyrocketed by switching to Cal Logi with an Advanced Rail Rifle? I only have it skilled to 4, no proficiency, and no damage mods. I still pop in and out of cover like I used to. I still support the team like I used to. I haven't changed my play style at all. All I changed was the dropsuit (which is skilled to 4), the gun (from MD/CR to RR, also level 4), and the grenade (locus from flux).

Is the Cal Logi that much better suited to a solo player? Or have I just magically been able to hit the broadside of a barn lately?

Logis have no bonuses for any weapons.

Booby, it is entirely possible that the callogi and the RR just simply suit your preferred style of play better, and thus give better results. Now, the rail rifles are actually quite good in various situations, the range advantage at least helps you out a lot if you play to that. And the Cal suits are very well suited for the pop in and out of cover style of play :)
And your KD skyrocketing... Do I remember correctly you used the MD a lot before? If that is the case, you'd have noticed a major increase in kills when switching to any rifle. The MD is a fine support weapon, and if you can stay on high ground, an excellent supression tool, but on the ground, where I'd assume you were based on playing an actual support logi, you're simply not going to be racking up kills the way a rifle user can under most circumstances.

You are going to be slow af, and I am not sure if you will have the pg/cpu for that much of a dual tank + equipment.

it seem a bit to much of a 'I'll just sit here and let my team do the work fit for my liking.

maybe a reg or recharger so you have some sort of reps on shields, and switch to ferroscale or reactive on at least one of the plates, other wise when you take damage, you will not be able to rep fast enough to survive.


Now on the weapons, For a cal logi, I would go more of a RR than a MD, but that is just me.

The nades I'd change to a flux, again just me.

Most important thing; you will be a logi not an assault, not a commando, not a scout, and definitely not a heavy.

You will be weak, and you will be caught without your weapon. It is just how it is.

I would not tank that suit with complex plates.

It will slow you down so much, and prevent you from being as useful, especially as a suit that will be running to and from combat zones to provide support.

Think on that.

PS: drop one of those hives for a link in a suit copy, its best to be prepared.

Have you tried to actually fit this yet? I'm pretty confident you won't be cramming the described set up on the current CPU/PG of the CalLogi.

Do a quick check of the math...the logi's have all been normalized for CPU / PG but their slots are radically different. More to the point high and low slot modules have very large swings in relative resource appetites.

Example...fill your equpiment slots first as you described then look at the choices you make in high & low slot options. Now try the same drill with Gallente Logi and you start to see the picture; the CPU hungry Cal Logi is heavily constrained from the starting line due to the resource cost of high slot mods in comparison to other suits in it's class.

I do my best and thank you for correcting me again. Seems all I know is that I want a commando with two equipment slots.

I agree.

Shayz come back to us... Pretty plz with Syrup on top...

Question about Myofibs?
Is anyone running those on their suits to get uplinks high? If so, what does your suit look like.
The only example I have seen is a Cal logi with a MD.

I used to have one on my min logi, but it feels like a waste considering I usually die to a shotgun to the back or SCR when I am in the open.

I understand the assumption of your theoretical module however the assumption itself is where I find there to be question in application. Particularly "is putting them to use as often as they are made available" this presumes quite a bit more than it may seem at first blush.

It assumes that the player is paying proper attention at all times throughout the match and fully understands the UI, this eliminates new bros and a number of causal players/players who can get distracted by comms or other actions.

It further assumes that they (the scanners) are made available at times when their use is also both available and applicable, e.g. there are hostile mercs within scan range and more importantly they are not applying threat to the user in such a manner as to inhibit scan use.

Both of these things have direct implications to player skill and experience, further they even hold some meaningful implications for relative player player skill and experience because a deeply outmatched player will have fewer opportunities to do much thinking or more rarefied behavior beyond run and shoot (or honestly spawn and die in many cases).

Now, the theoretical module you present seems quite solid to me if one runs with the assumption as presented, but it is the assumption itself which causes the departure of our views regarding actual battlefield conditions and thus my assertion that player skill - both personal and comparative - is quite relevant.

Seems like a rather reductionist statement to me.

The guy would need a solid squad backing him, the guy would need to be going up against a force which relies on not being scanned (granted that's not super uncommon to be sure, but a force built primarily of the two heavy frame types with vehicle support will generally be impacted far less), the guy would need the context to use the scans (if he has a squad and we presume he knows what he's doing then this is very likely, but it also does not apply to everyone or honestly even every scanner type).

Already we can see that it is not one guy who is dismantling the enemy team. I presume however that the content and intent of the statement is that this one guy is having a large enough leveraged impact to swing the game in favor of his team. "Knows what he's doing" being a general enough statement I will certainly accent to the idea that there are players with sufficient skill to accomplish that in this context. It is important to point out however that this is true of some players within various contexts not simply "scans". And that "scans" is - as I pointed out before - a bad context because it is too general.

If there is a problem with a specific thing it requires a specific address whether that be a specific mechanic (duration, precision, angle, or bug), a specific item (flux scanner, focused scanner, et al) etc.

When I say "that is too vague to be entirely accurate" or any paraphrase thereof, that is exactly what I mean.
I do not mean "the claim has no merit and should be dismissed". Specificity is however something I will frequently call for as painting with an over broad brush has already proven to be bad balance practice in Dust 514 and think we can all agree that we certainly don't need a repeat of any mistaken patters from days gone by.

This is also why I generally take some degree of issue with simple declarative statements as they are - in essence - conclusions provided without citations and thus even if entirely accurate are often either in-actionable or not actionable in as effective a manner as their more descriptive counterparts could have provided.

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I hate to say this but the Amarr Militia med set up works pretty well. I think that the higher armor points give you a chance to get closer to the friendly you are trying to help. Could be just me though.

Thank you for reminding me that I am still learning. I have seen an Amarr logi suit with four equipment slots.

Well I have an Amarr suit I can't use yet that I will check on That has what looks like four slots there. Unless I am mixing it up with the Revanant suit I won as salvage.

Well I have an Amarr suit I can't use yet that I will check on That has what looks like four slots there. Unless I am mixing it up with the Revanant suit I won as salvage.

This thread needs a nanite injection.

Anybody changing their setup with the new hotfix?

I'll think about it bud ;)

One: Do you have to be a certain LP rank to trade?
Two: Are you willing to take a payment from a third party, Corps mate?

Finally: Do you have one and are wiling to trade it? My CEO is willing to pay you, if the price is right.

Even better! How does this look?
Google Doc: Spitballing Revive Resistance

New event, Logi Ops!

What do you think the BPO should be, or what it will be?

I would be cool with a dual beam BDR-2, or a less powerful BDR-8 BPO. Would that be too good of a BPO? Will it just be a Flux repair tool?