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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.04.17 02:05:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Shamarskii Simon wrote:Assault assaulting?
Head on 1v1? Hard fight for the lighter guy?
Idk man... Feels about right tbh.
....... Cal assault gets a nerf in that too... Yknow how sad it'll be? :(( Oh look, assaults are for assaulting right? Therefore assaults should be THE best beast mode assault machine to a point nobody comes even close. Okay. Scouts are for Scouting I guess? Explain me one thing, how does a scout get WP for scouting? Also, Assault suits are almost equal to scouts in EWAR capabilities while retaining twice as much HP. Seems like the only thing scouts have is a cloak which is also useless AF because snipers can get headshots on cloaked scouts from hundreds of meters away.
Scan Stuff, Hack Stuff, Knife the occasional guy, set traps, yell **** at the assault to get their arses in gear and steal their kills.
Pretty much how I'd do it.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.04.17 02:19:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:True Adamance wrote:
Scan Stuff
Logis out-support all else Assaults out-slay all else Heavies out-tank all else Do Scouts out-scan all else? Inner Rings are all more or less created equal; run a precision enhancer or two, and spot everything that gets within 5 or so meters. Outer Rings are all more or less created equal; if a unit makes any effort to dampen, that unit will not be picked up in Outer Rings. So is the Middle Ring that sets the Scout apart from the pack? I'd argue a single Active Scanner scanner out-recons any recon Scout. Enter the GalLogi, and there is truly no comparison. If scans are intended to set Scouts apart, then I believe scans need to be overhauled.
You don't have to be the best at something to get WP and contribute.
I'd dispute the out slay all else. Assault players are your bro's who don't really have the best of anything, just are close to everything, at least scouts have visual cloaking, very potent biotic modules, and adaptability over most other classes.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.04.17 04:04:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:True Adamance wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:True Adamance wrote:
Scan Stuff
Logis out-support all else Assaults out-slay all else Heavies out-tank all else Do Scouts out-scan all else? Inner Rings are all more or less created equal; run a precision enhancer or two, and spot everything that gets within 5 or so meters. Outer Rings are all more or less created equal; if a unit makes any effort to dampen, that unit will not be picked up in Outer Rings. So is the Middle Ring that sets the Scout apart from the pack? I'd argue a single Active Scanner scanner out-recons any recon Scout. Enter the GalLogi, and there is truly no comparison. If scans are intended to set Scouts apart, then I believe scans need to be overhauled. You don't have to be the best at something to get WP and contribute. I'd dispute the out slay all else. Assault players are your bro's who don't really have the best of anything, just are close to everything, at least scouts have visual cloaking, very potent biotic modules, and adaptability over most other classes. Of those things you mentioned towards the end, Assaults can use just as well, if not in many cases better, with the exception of the cloak. Which in many cases is highly visible, and given the nature of the cloak delay, becomes an overly significant draw back (The delay of switch is actually something like 3 seconds, with a decloak delay of a couple seconds, so that you are essentially visible for 1 second before being able to fire. If you are spotted while cloaked, you essentially have a 3 second delay before being able to defend yourself, all while having a fraction of the HP). This game heavily rewards HP more than EWAR in its current state. Every suit should have a role, and Scouts really don't anymore. We can neither beat all scans, nor out scan. We can't stealthily engage in CQC, nor do we have the HP to bother ambushing mercs at range. Everything we can do that is special, Assaults can do well enough that when adding their other advantages, diminishes the strategic incentives for using a Scout suit instead.
Hmmmm I suppose given your role as a scout my voice means comparatively little however I have to point out that the scanning thing I think is a little over played on your part.
Yeah I get the frustration of not being able to avoid all scans when your role is stealth however in this game there must be some kind of scanner that can reveal you. There is not suit that deserves TACNET invisibility at all times under all circumstances. However I somewhat understand you dilemma, a fair few....not a lot of people have skilled permascanning Gal Scout to counter top tier scout invisibility, kind of like how everyone and their mother in this game has Wyrkomi's (and they aren't as soft as most people make them to be).
I don't really want to complain though because without them though since if they didn't have them I would have an ungodly advantage over most players.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.04.17 04:27:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:
This reads as though you aren't up-to-date with current in-game mechanics. Avoiding detection isn't limited to dodging GalLogi scans. Any MedFrame who runs just one precision enhancer will scan even the most heavily dampened Scout before that Scout gets within optimal shotgun or knifing. That intel is relayed to all squadmates; even if the medframe dies, the Scout's position was still compromised.
For realsies?
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.04.17 04:35:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:True Adamance wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:
This reads as though you aren't up-to-date with current in-game mechanics. Avoiding detection isn't limited to dodging GalLogi scans. Any MedFrame who runs just one precision enhancer will scan even the most heavily dampened Scout before that Scout gets within optimal shotgun or knifing. That intel is relayed to all squadmates; even if the medframe dies, the Scout's position was still compromised.
For realsies? Are you being serious? I have lots of math for you if so: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zVbDLXDU5gpKjx1YmE9ODVYHxlE40vhNz-L7gBTcY4Y/editThis has been the case since December.
NO MATH! I YIELD!
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