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Bright Steel Horizons' Edge 1187	Posted - 2015.04.16 21:44:00 - [1] - Quote It allows the more experienced mercs to work out the bugs Keeps noobs from getting scammed right off the back Keeps people from scamming with a multitude of alts Vets can more easily take a hit from a scam due to more resources To list a few reasons... It could possibly be lowered later but I think it's a good starting point. Dust 514, the BEST WORST game you can't stop playing.
Flint Beastgood III GunFall Mobilization 1640	Posted - 2015.04.16 21:52:00 - [2] - Quote Bright Steel wrote: It allows the more experienced mercs to work out the bugs Keeps noobs from getting scammed right off the back Keeps people from scamming with a multitude of alts Vets can more easily take a hit from a scam due to more resources To list a few reasons... It could possibly be lowered later but I think it's a good starting point. right off the bat* - http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/right+off+the+bat 'LR4-Trading' Protester
Bright Steel Horizons' Edge 1188	Posted - 2015.04.16 22:27:00 - [3] - Quote Flint Beastgood III wrote: Bright Steel wrote: It allows the more experienced mercs to work out the bugs Keeps noobs from getting scammed right off the back Keeps people from scamming with a multitude of alts Vets can more easily take a hit from a scam due to more resources To list a few reasons... It could possibly be lowered later but I think it's a good starting point. right off the bat* - http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/right+off+the+bat Oh man, thank you! I was very worried about my grammar in GD Dust 514, the BEST WORST game you can't stop playing.
Atlas Donovan The Immortal Order 70	Posted - 2015.04.16 22:41:00 - [4] - Quote ^^^^^ this man wins at life!
DUST Fiend 16413	Posted - 2015.04.16 23:08:00 - [5] - Quote The problem is that it's less about "more experience" and more about "more purchased" Many players have been playing for quite some time while not even hitting this rank because they never purchased AUR. That just seemed to be the reaction here in GD anyways, without actual data who knows. Im rank 7 so it's w/e for me but this whole thing just feels like way more of a headache than it needed to be lol. *"My bitter is showing. I must retreat to the berry patch."* STUFF
Knightshade Belladonna Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 1122	Posted - 2015.04.16 23:45:00 - [6] - Quote I don't see how someone can say with a straight face they are loyal , have been here playing for years , many hours logged in..but it's not fair they are not lvl 4 yet because they never paid anything. Of all people you are the ones who should have by now paid in or quit the game..that's one hell of a free ride, just sayin'
Nevyn Tazinas Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 75	Posted - 2015.04.16 23:47:00 - [7] - Quote Ever consider that a lot of Dust players may already pay EVE subscriptions? So are already supporting the general company.
Knightshade Belladonna Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 1122	Posted - 2015.04.16 23:50:00 - [8] - Quote Nevyn Tazinas wrote: Ever consider that a lot of Dust players may already pay EVE subscriptions? So are already supporting the general company. sounds like an excuse to be cheap to me , and one someone who only buy secondary plex for isk would use...
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens 3800	Posted - 2015.04.16 23:53:00 - [9] - Quote Stating that the level 4 thing is good because of scamming is like saying "being deaf is great because of the song Friday." It is there for a few good reasons, mainly that it removes key farming, component farming, and newsletter farming, but "it stops scamming!" is not a good reason to put a fairly basic function behind what is effectively a pay-wall. Trying to sell it as such rather than as a necessary evil seems misguided. "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
Forever ETC Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 970	Posted - 2015.04.16 23:59:00 - [10] - Quote Eh, I just finding it ridiculous that it has to be hidden behind a paywall. Everyone knows the that Loyalty Rank is heavily based on Aurum rather than the player. I have given this game over thousands of hours yet I can't be allowed to use a feature because they're afraid of exploits... Sure I shouldn't be complaining it is a free game after all, but CCP is out of their mind if they think I'm gonna pay for a feature in an unfinished game. PIE Lasers4life "See these marks... Don't overheat your gun"

Bright Steel Horizons' Edge 1191	Posted - 2015.04.17 00:03:00 - [11] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Stating that the level 4 thing is good because of scamming is like saying "being deaf is great because of the song Friday." It is there for a few good reasons, mainly that it removes key farming, component farming, and newsletter farming, but "it stops scamming!" is not a good reason to put a fairly basic function behind what is effectively a pay-wall. Trying to sell it as such rather than as a necessary evil seems misguided. I'm looking at the beginning of trading. We, the vets, will work out the details of how to make a reliable system before the newer players get involved. Not everyone is included right now, and I agree more should be included, but by allowing some of the more experienced and loyal customers "beta test" the system we can have a better tomorrow It's a work in progrees, don't get your panties all in a wad so soon.... Dust 514, the BEST WORST game you can't stop playing.
Bright Steel Horizons' Edge 1191	Posted - 2015.04.17 00:04:00 - [12] - Quote Forever ETC wrote: Eh, I just finding it ridiculous that it has to be hidden behind a paywall. Everyone knows the that Loyalty Rank is heavily based on Aurum rather than the player. I have given this game over thousands of hours yet I can't be allowed to use a feature because they're afraid of exploits... Sure I shouldn't be complaining it is a free game after all, but CCP is out of their mind if they think I'm gonna pay for a feature in an unfinished game. Im confident they will find a good equilibrium, just be patient. Dust 514, the BEST WORST game you can't stop playing.
Foo Fighting Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 249	Posted - 2015.04.17 00:25:00 - [13] - Quote When my 1,000 plus officer and experimental weapons go on sale I won't be trading with anyone that I know hasn't spent a penny on this game - hell I may even set my trading threshold at rank 5 (just to be sure). And just to inform those that think businesses measure loyalty by how many times your come into the shop. They don't. Loyalty is measured in pounds, shillings and pence. Always.
Forced Death Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 537	Posted - 2015.04.17 00:30:00 - [14] - Quote Lucky me I bought the merc pack STD Active Scanner with Scan Profile of 46db too OP
DUST Fiend 16415	Posted - 2015.04.17 00:41:00 - [15] - Quote - *"My bitter is showing. I must retreat to the berry patch."* STUFF
Knightshade Belladonna Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 1124	Posted - 2015.04.17 00:52:00 - [16] - Quote Forever ETC wrote: Eh, I just finding it ridiculous that it has to be hidden behind a paywall. Everyone knows the that Loyalty Rank is heavily based on Aurum rather than the player. I have given this game over thousands of hours yet I can't be allowed to use a feature because they're afraid of exploits... Sure I shouldn't be complaining it is a free game after all, but CCP is out of their mind if they think I'm gonna pay for a feature in an unfinished game. how long you guys gonna play that flute... unfinished game..da fuq This game was built on a vision , just because it did not come to full realization does not make it any less of a game. It has come far from closed beta , very far. You want continued expanions, ad=nd work done on it still..but think not spending money will make it happen. You don't have to , I don't really care if you do or not..but that is one of the lamest excuses to still flaunt around as a reason to be a cheap sob.
Koldy Lyte Marven DUST University Ivy League 53	Posted - 2015.04.17 00:59:00 - [17] - Quote Bright Steel wrote: It allows the more experienced mercs to work out the bugs Keeps noobs from getting scammed right off the back Keeps people from scamming with a multitude of alts Vets can more easily take a hit from a scam due to more resources To list a few reasons... It could possibly be lowered later but I think it's a good starting point. Vets... Some people are really vets but are still recruits or at very low ranks in-game because they NEVER bought AUR.The problem is, Loyalty Ranks are more based on purchasing AUR than earning experience by actually playing the game and becoming better at it. I just got a damn 'Quafe' Myron and a whole damn lot of stuff I wanted to trade and make money from those useless things... and gess what? I'm a recruit, which is rank 1 or even 0 I think. So no, I totally disagree with the rank 4 thing. Find something else. This is how you make a good game CCP: you try to satisfy everybody as much as you can, while not making the game to easy or too hard. And I feel like you CCP guys don't listen to us... ( -í° -£-û -í°)
Knightshade Belladonna Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 1125	Posted - 2015.04.17 01:02:00 - [18] - Quote Save a cheeseburger , buy aurum
Forever ETC Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 970	Posted - 2015.04.17 01:20:00 - [19] - Quote Knightshade Belladonna wrote: Forever ETC wrote: Eh, I just finding it ridiculous that it has to be hidden behind a paywall. Everyone knows the that Loyalty Rank is heavily based on Aurum rather than the player. I have given this game over thousands of hours yet I can't be allowed to use a feature because they're afraid of exploits... Sure I shouldn't be complaining it is a free game after all, but CCP is out of their mind if they think I'm gonna pay for a feature in an unfinished game. how long you guys gonna play that flute... unfinished game..da fuq This game was built on a vision , just because it did not come to full realization does not make it any less of a game. It has come far from closed beta , very far. You want continued expanions, ad=nd work done on it still..but think not spending money will make it happen. You don't have to , I don't really care if you do or not..but that is one of the lamest excuses to still flaunt around as a reason to be a cheap sob. I am a cheap slob, look at what I'm playing... I'll give CCP my money once they greenlight Legion. PIE Lasers4life "See these marks... Don't overheat your gun"


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