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DaemonVok
Axis of Chaos
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Posted - 2015.04.16 02:32:00 -
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So... I've been trying out small blasters on Incubus because I'm bored. Against infantry, very difficult but extremely rewarding. Against vehicles? 44% efficiency vs. Shields and 36% vs. Armor. Always. What the heck.... please... just either explain.... or fix. Just... wow. |
LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.04.16 02:33:00 -
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Rewarding?
Maybe against total brain dead noobs with no SLs...
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DaemonVok
Axis of Chaos
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Posted - 2015.04.16 02:34:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:Rewarding?
Maybe against total brain dead noobs with no SLs... Sl? And yes rewarding. You try it, condescending butt-nugget. It's freaking hard. |
Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2015.04.16 02:39:00 -
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DaemonVok wrote:LUGMOS wrote:Rewarding?
Maybe against total brain dead noobs with no SLs... Sl? And yes rewarding. You try it, condescending butt-nugget. It's freaking hard. Last time I checked, it only gives you +50, which is the same amount of any kill with any other method. It is not rewarding at all. |
Jonny D Buelle
Mors Effera
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Posted - 2015.04.16 02:42:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:DaemonVok wrote:LUGMOS wrote:Rewarding?
Maybe against total brain dead noobs with no SLs... Sl? And yes rewarding. You try it, condescending butt-nugget. It's freaking hard. Last time I checked, it only gives you +50, which is the same amount of any kill with any other method. It is not rewarding at all.
I think he meant that his kills feel more satisfying
I find your lack of heaviness... disturbing...
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tal mrak-thanl
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
516
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Posted - 2015.04.16 02:47:00 -
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DaemonVok wrote: Sl? And yes rewarding. You try it, condescending butt-nugget. It's freaking hard.
SL= swarm launcher. I don't think you know what condescending means.
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
3489
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Posted - 2015.04.16 02:51:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote:I think he meant that his kills feel more satisfying
They fraking are! They are impossible to use, hence my earlier comment. But the hit detection is so, so terrible... It never 'hits' even after hearing the ping ping ping on their shields.
They are only useful for taking down Vipers and Myron's, and even then small rails are better. Heck, small rails are better for killing infantry
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DaemonVok
Axis of Chaos
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Posted - 2015.04.16 02:52:00 -
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tal mrak-thanl wrote:DaemonVok wrote: Sl? And yes rewarding. You try it, condescending butt-nugget. It's freaking hard.
SL= swarm launcher. I don't think you know what condescending means. Thank you. But I do know what it means. I did mean satisfying, sorry for being unclear. Yes b it gives you +50 just like everything else but it is REALLY HARD. Sorry for snapping. |
tal mrak-thanl
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
518
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Posted - 2015.04.16 02:55:00 -
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If you can kill infantry with small rails in a moving DS, you deserve a friggen trophy. |
DaemonVok
Axis of Chaos
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Posted - 2015.04.16 02:57:00 -
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tal mrak-thanl wrote:DaemonVok wrote: Sl? And yes rewarding. You try it, condescending butt-nugget. It's freaking hard.
SL= swarm launcher. I don't think you know what condescending means. I thought he was calling me brain dead for using them. I know.what it means... |
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
3489
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Posted - 2015.04.16 02:57:00 -
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tal mrak-thanl wrote:If you can kill infantry with small rails in a moving DS, you deserve a friggen trophy. Its not harder than with a small blaster
I swear to Jesus what I said is true
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Lupus Wolf
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.04.16 03:25:00 -
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I'm still saving my blaster Incubus fit for if it becomes viable.
"Dogfighting with missiles is like watching two armless kids try to catch a baseball." - Dust Fiend
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
3493
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Posted - 2015.04.16 03:34:00 -
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Lupus Wolf wrote:I'm still saving my blaster Incubus fit for if it becomes viable. Same. I have a fit that I pull out if I'm feeling particularly good and carefree.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.04.16 03:38:00 -
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Blaster will never be an adequate ADS front gun until CCP programs in a proper first person cam with swivel, as well as remove the absurd inefficiency towards vehicles and installations.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.04.16 03:41:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Blaster will never be an adequate ADS front gun until CCP programs in a proper first person cam with swivel, as well as remove the absurd inefficiency towards vehicles and installations.
All I know is when we had our ADS vs HAV duel that one day, you practically had to stick the nose of your ADS up my tank's ass for your front blaster. It worked, but I don't think most people can really pull that off reliably to make the small blaster effective against HAVs.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.04.16 03:56:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Blaster will never be an adequate ADS front gun until CCP programs in a proper first person cam with swivel, as well as remove the absurd inefficiency towards vehicles and installations. All I know is when we had our ADS vs HAV duel that one day, you practically had to stick the nose of your ADS up my tank's ass for your front blaster. It worked, but I don't think most people can really pull that off reliably to make the small blaster effective against HAVs. Well new HAVs are mathematically impossible to crack with ANY ADS fit if the HAV is adequately fit and piloted. AV Incubus used to be a thing but it's really not anymore, not against tanks anyways
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Pocket Rocket Girl
Psygod9
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Posted - 2015.04.16 05:33:00 -
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I would actually like to one day see a friggen drop ship do a frigging strafe run like a A10
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.04.16 05:38:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Blaster will never be an adequate ADS front gun until CCP programs in a proper first person cam with swivel, as well as remove the absurd inefficiency towards vehicles and installations. All I know is when we had our ADS vs HAV duel that one day, you practically had to stick the nose of your ADS up my tank's ass for your front blaster. It worked, but I don't think most people can really pull that off reliably to make the small blaster effective against HAVs. Well new HAVs are mathematically impossible to crack with ANY ADS fit if the HAV is adequately fit and piloted. AV Incubus used to be a thing but it's really not anymore, not against tanks anyways
Against any particular HAV type/fit or just in general?
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.04.16 06:01:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Blaster will never be an adequate ADS front gun until CCP programs in a proper first person cam with swivel, as well as remove the absurd inefficiency towards vehicles and installations. All I know is when we had our ADS vs HAV duel that one day, you practically had to stick the nose of your ADS up my tank's ass for your front blaster. It worked, but I don't think most people can really pull that off reliably to make the small blaster effective against HAVs. Well new HAVs are mathematically impossible to crack with ANY ADS fit if the HAV is adequately fit and piloted. AV Incubus used to be a thing but it's really not anymore, not against tanks anyways Against any particular HAV type/fit or just in general? Anything advanced and up. Armor or shields. In any kind of 1v1 environment the dropship isn't going to crack a tank that's altering direction and sticking / heading for cover. Now obviously 1v1 environments don't generally exist, so dropships do still get tank kills generally thanks to two things: astoundingly bad driving on part of the tank driver, or the tank is currently or has recently been damaged by another form of AV. That's the bread and butter, the biscuits and tomatoes, the tentacles and Japanese women. Wholesome things. America.
Now unfortunately while that's all well and good, the same AV that is putting a dent into a tank is putting out some serious hurt on your standard hull, so you pretty much don't ever get hover time. It's always go go go, particularly as railgun Incubus since without a proper first person cam you can't put in reliable work on infantry. And of course we still have the disparity of all anti air AV doing extra damage to armor. Maybe we'll get some new SKINS for our weapons that make them do opposite damage types. They'll be called "Official AMARR Laser Thingun TM" and be about as balanced as me off my meds. Which is always. Clearly.
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DaemonVok
Axis of Chaos
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Posted - 2015.04.17 19:33:00 -
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Ads are even more ineffective when using small blasters. The small blaster is freaking hard to kill ANYTHING. People die quick if you can actually hit them but that's the trick... ya can't. And against vehicles it 44% v. Shields and 36 v. Armor. That's redonkeydick. For realz. |
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Scheneighnay McBob
And the ButtPirates
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Posted - 2015.04.17 19:43:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:Rewarding?
Maybe against total brain dead noobs with no SLs... He means rewarding for plasma cannon users.
Taking down a dropship with a PLC is one of the funniest things to watch in Dust.
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DaemonVok
Axis of Chaos
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Posted - 2015.04.17 19:48:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:LUGMOS wrote:Rewarding?
Maybe against total brain dead noobs with no SLs... He means rewarding for plasma cannon users. Taking down a dropship with a PLC is one of the funniest things to watch in Dust. No I meant killing infantry with a small blaster Incubus. It's hard. I'm getting better though. |
The Dark Cloud
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2015.04.17 22:38:00 -
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Small blasters in their current state are worthless pieces of junk. You have more of a chance to kill some 1 with a shotgun from 20m away then with a small blaster.
I make the scrubs scream and the vets cry.
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