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Her Chosen
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Posted - 2015.04.15 15:05:00 -
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So, when "passive" ISK was shut down from district ownership. It slowly evolved the game. You saw corps basically die, and traditional protostompers all but disappear...
Corporations that were on Nyian San's payroll basically became non-threats in public matches; Nyan Chan, LORD-BRITISH, etc
Squads weren't eager to spend a collective 6-10 million ISK just to win a public contract battle. But since the NPC market, I've seen the trend happen again.
Non-PC playing players and corps throwing millions of ISK into public contract battles. Where is this ISK coming from? They aren't selling Templar BPOs, ringing for PCs, have no districts to farm, AFK-ing doesn't work...
Where did all of these players start getting a bankroll to afford 1M ISK matches? I've watched players lose 2-3 proto tanks in a pub, or lose 5-15 proto suits, crash ADS, after ADS, etc... it doesn't add up.
You can argue all you want, but DUST has always been a a pay-to-win game. But this "economy" is broken. Taking away passive PC ISK was nota good idea, however the new payout system is a good replacement.
So, I'm asking each of you (non-PC players); where is your ISK coming from?
STRONG BOX ROLE CALL
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Posted - 2015.04.15 15:15:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Proto suits are pretty cheap, outside logistics. At most, they'll cost around 160k ISK. With a few matches, you would be able to run a full match with proto, and that's if you're broke. If you have a lot of LP, it's even easier. If you don't die much in a proto suit, then you're also saving as well. Get rich, scrub.
I am rich... very rich... like I give away 50-150 million ISK everyday rich....
But dying twice in a proto suit means lost profit. Dying in a FW to get a LP variant still adds up to lost profit. Vehicle users often lose profit. It doesn't add up.
If you have a weekly KDR of 10-20, then I can understand it. Ambush gank squads are very profitable...
But sorry proto is not profitable in pubs, as intended. I promise you that you can't run proto every spawn, every match without a third-party ISK generating system.
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Her Chosen
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Posted - 2015.04.15 15:23:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Her Chosen wrote:Joel II X wrote:Proto suits are pretty cheap, outside logistics. At most, they'll cost around 160k ISK. With a few matches, you would be able to run a full match with proto, and that's if you're broke. If you have a lot of LP, it's even easier. If you don't die much in a proto suit, then you're also saving as well. Get rich, scrub. I am rich... very rich... like I give away 50-150 million ISK everyday rich.... But dying twice in a proto suit means lost profit. Dying in a FW to get a LP variant still adds up to lost profit. Vehicle users often lose profit. It doesn't add up. If you have a weekly KDR of 10-20, then I can understand it. Ambush gank squads are very profitable... But sorry proto is not profitable in pubs, as intended. I promise you that you can't run proto every spawn, every match without a third-party ISK generating system. Assuming that you actually DO give away that much ISK, maybe....that's where the ISK is coming from? The endless banks of days long past still being shuffled amongst the player base.
lmao, I never thought of that...
Well, I guess I go back to being a total a-hole :)
STRONG BOX ROLE CALL
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Her Chosen
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Posted - 2015.04.15 17:02:00 -
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So, my question still hasn't been answered.
How do non-3rd party invested players afford to run top meta gear in public contracts?
Am I just lucky and they only use proto against me and lose profit against me? That would conquer that I'm making many, many, many, many, many players go broke in this game...
It still baffles me, and my common sense is telling me that it isn't adding up. ISK neds to come from somewhere. Most of the wealthy players in this game (and by most I mean ALL) did it through playing PCs and winning, taxing a corporation, and selling codes.
Public match players cannot generate profit using proto gear when all they play is public. So, WHERE ARE THEY GETTING THE FUNDS TO DO IT?
Also if you want ISK, and you see me in game. Ask nicely, I've almost never said no to anyone. This last week I've paid for many people's APEX suits :)
STRONG BOX ROLE CALL
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