Scorched Earth tactics are burning everything as you fall back to prevent the enemy from using it.

Scorched Earth tactics are -NOT- letting them have it anyway and giving them a run for their money with absolutely no risk on your end.

It'd be cool if it were a choice factor but this is an obvious choice. If I lose the first battle for the district, the second is where I start weighing my options. If I feel it's absolutely necessary to keep the district, I'll fight - otherwise, why bother wasting ISK? It's not a choice, it's a default, and every PC entity -ever- will make that choice; thereby, it's not so much a choice as a "use this tactic always and forever".

It's going to get old -real freaggin quick- and, again, I see absolutely no reason why it should be a thing. The entire point of all of this was to offer good fights, wasn't it? Why sacrifice or risk those good fights by giving a mechanic like this when the simple solution is to simply prevent BPO's and APEX suits from being used in PC?

Every time I brought up BPOs and APEXs, I heard "we don't have an economy for them to affect". Okay, well, we have player trading. We have asset selling. How far back are we going to move this goal post before we start seriously considering the implications that riskless, lossless assets have on the game?

EDIT: Long story short, you're just taking one terrible meta (players giving up early and just letting their enemies have the district) and replacing it with another (fielding BPOs and doing damage with no risk/loss). The only players losing with this new mechanic are the attackers.

With the payouts being so low is this CCP's way of telling us they want less proto in PC matches?

Look, there is no justifying the use of BPO's or APEX's in PC.

The entire point of both of those were for players to accumulate ISK - citing we didn't have an economy to screw over - and that's the entire reason for them existing now while looking cool. The looking cool bit is being hashed out with SKINs and we now have player trading and asset selling which is, essentially, a rudimentary economy. We have trade forums now and this only strengthens the argument that the economy is now in play.

I feel like I'm repeating myself with this (maybe because it wasn't properly tackled the last time I brought it up, for whatever reason).

In PC though? They're fundamentally unnecessary. Looking cool? SKINs. Accumulating ISK? You should not be doing this in PC and as Pokey keeps bringing up, profitability isn't in ISK with PC 2.0 (even though he admits that right now it's not in play and the system is derp). I'm -REALLY- having serious doubts as to why BPO's and APEX's should have any role at all in PC other than the inevitable: Weaponized Boredom through lack of good fights, and Cheapskating using an exploited, gamed system of "Keep What You Kill".

So the enemy team wants to use cheap stuff... Who cares right? Well, when the only thing holding them back from attacking your district is the clones to actually assault it than what's to stop them from starting a War of Attrition on you and just burning you out of both ISK and patience? Instead of asking "Why would they use BPOs", ask "Why -WOULDN'T- they use BPOs?"

They can assault you with riskless/lossless BPO's/APEX's as long as they have clones and if you attack them they'll just use all the ISK they've saved up from kicking your hind quarters to field the best gear. If they look like they're losing? They'll just default back to the BPO, give you a run for your money at no cost to them, and then you have more territory than you can feasible defend and they just repeat the process until they get their districts back - but now with a bank of ISK they generated from kicking you while you're down.

Give it time. Once people start realizing that there's no other way to make ISK in PC and PC is fundamentally worthless otherwise until -MAYBE- a tentative June/July release (according to the roadmap Trello) they're just going to default to the easiest option available: BPO's, Attrition, Boredom, and Bull****.

Again, I've seen a lot of justification for why a person would -want- to use them but absolutely no justification as to why they should be in PC for any reason other than exploiting a gamed system.

What's wrong with proto in Pubs. Sure before when they faced people without it, but with new matchmaking you usually go against people wearing it or can wear it.

There shouldn't be ANY complaints over proto in Pubs. I spent plenty of time obtaining that, and should be encouraged to use it against others that have it. Be it PUBS or PC. I believe that was a major point they were pointing to when they announced legion.

And besides, there are plenty out there who say that proto gear < skill. So you should probably get gud (according to proponents that advocate the idea gear has a lesser impact on engagements over skill. Ignore the fact that those who have it (proto gear) are probably pretty skilled to start with at that point in their merc life.).

I myself don't agree with that sentiment (skill > gear) when the gear DOES make a noticeable impact, proven by those that hate being proto stomped yet can't afford to run it as consistently as others.

I think you misunderstood me, but no matter.

But tell me this, because you CHOOSE not to use proto gear, you feel it's right that if others do choose to use it, consistently, that they should somehow be punished.

I honestly don't understand this "Proto stomp mentality" with matchmaking in place. They pull proto, and you want to compete on their level, then pull proto. Nuff said.

As far as your idea of ISK, I know a great deal of people that have a boatload of isk, who obtained by grinding pubs with cheap/free fits. This idea floating around that the PC people are rich because they gamed the system is silly. A grand majority of them gained that legit. You honestly can't pretend like everyone that runs proto ever gained it through ill gotten means.

And I do suggest you reread what I said. You assumed I was bashing you, yet I was engaging in civil discourse.

My main point, you should be encouraged to run proto. It's not something reserved for special occasions. I worked hard to get that gear, and I and you should be encouraged to use it all the time. And if you think that the PC change is going to stop the isk flow, just wait until you see trading.

I'll be proto stomping all day everyday my friend, for I have MUCH to sell. And just wait until they open up the trade of aur things like boosters and keys. The isk will flow like a rushing river my friend.