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Silver Strike44
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Posted - 2015.04.15 04:49:00 -
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Quite honestly, from the perspective of someone who plays a lot of PCs and has a decent amount of pull in Molden Heath (though Im not sure if thats relevant), this change is terrible. I have never been one to come on the forums and talk about what CCP is doing wrong, but unless this has some sort of godly synergy with what you are going to release whenever you finally release it, this is just bad. I think most PC players will agree with me on this. You may have killed farming, but you pretty much just destroyed PC for anyone who doesnt only do it for fun until there are further changes made.
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Posted - 2015.04.15 20:27:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Tebu Gan wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:
If they don't care about the win, they'll use cheap gear and try to dupe you into burning ISK on expensive stuff.
And I think many are missing the fundemental of what PC is. It's not about bringing cheap stuff to make a profit. You aren't hurting anyone by doing that. Sure you might get a larger than normal payout (by LOSING mind you), but what was the point of the battle. This shouldn't be some pub you go afk in. We bring the best, and always will, and care little for the isk. Sometimes we don't even make a profit off a win. It's not about the isk for most of us, it's about the fight. And by encouraging the use of lesser gear to make a larger profit, there won't be many good fights. This idea that people get caught up in that PC has been about isk are just crazy. Sure for a select few it was (and we wiped a few of those off the starmap ourselves), but not for all. This sudden change will have more negative affects than it will positive. Sure it's easy to say chill out when you(and many others) aren't even involved in this mode. This didn't need to happen right this moment. I get that other changes are on the way, but without those changes, the only people that suffer are those that are already heavily invested into PC. And for what reason????? Yeah, I'm pissed, and others like me have every right to be. This isn't hurting the corps, but the PLAYERS. I guess I don't see PC as "Must use Proto or it isn't fun" but rather a war of economy. Do you feel that the quality of gameplay in PC would be lessened if everyone ran something less than proto? I guess for me, a gun is a gun, tier just defines how much damage it does but the amount of needed damage also depends on how much defense the dude I'm shooting has. Now you could make the argument that lower suits have less flexibility and fun because of lack of slots, totally with you on that, which is why I support flatlined slot layouts, that's a different issue entirely. I guess I don't see it as "encouraging you to use the cheapest gear possible. If ISK isn't the issue, isn't it more an encouragement to use whatever gear is necessary to beat the enemy? And if the enemy really wants to win and take your district, won't they use the best they can?
Would you not define PC as endgame content? I think most would. Endgame content consists of using what assets (skills points) you have amassed in order to be competitive with others or be challenged in another way. Since Dust is a strictly multiplayer game, it the endgame content should be highly competitive and require the highest level of everything (skill and gear) in order to compete.
Maybe and hopefully CCP will bring PC to where it should be when the major changes come about, but it is a broken and meaningless game mode until then.
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Silver Strike44
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Posted - 2015.04.16 04:58:00 -
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I just played two PC battles between high level corps. In both battles, a decent amount of clones, all in proto gear as far as I know, were lost and the team I was on won. The first game I earned about 1.1 million ISK and lost 8 suits, I believe. Each of the suits I lost cost me around 190k ISK. That is a net loss of around 400k ISK. In the next battle, I earned around 1 million ISK and lost 5 of those 190k ISK suits. That is a net gain of around 50k ISK. Over the course of two PCs where only proto was used between two high level corps and I wouldnt say I died more than a reasonable amount of times, I lost a few hundred thousand ISK. The corp I played for earned nothing in the way of ISK, just a meaningless district and none of the people on my team gained a significant amount of ISK if they earned ISK at all. Is this not ridiculous?
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Posted - 2015.04.16 07:25:00 -
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DeathwindRising wrote:Silver Strike44 wrote:I just played two PC battles between high level corps. In both battles, a decent amount of clones, all in proto gear as far as I know, were lost and the team I was on won. The first game I earned about 1.1 million ISK and lost 8 suits, I believe. Each of the suits I lost cost me around 190k ISK. That is a net loss of around 400k ISK. In the next battle, I earned around 1 million ISK and lost 5 of those 190k ISK suits. That is a net gain of around 50k ISK. Over the course of two PCs where only proto was used between two high level corps and I wouldnt say I died more than a reasonable amount of times, I lost a few hundred thousand ISK. The corp I played for earned nothing in the way of ISK, just a meaningless district and none of the people on my team gained a significant amount of ISK if they earned ISK at all. Is this not ridiculous? Thinking back to how you performed in those matches and what you accomplished, was a proto suit necessary to do it? Could you have accomplished the same tasks in a cheaper suit? I average about 5 deaths a match. Pub, fw, PC, it doesn't matter. I average those 5 deaths whether I'm wearing apex, adv, or proto. So knowing this, I'll say that the gear I use is irrelevant to my performance. I average 13 kills a match. If I can do it in apex, why use proto?
Pubs just arent the same. If you want to do well against good players in good gear (what PC should be), you too must run the best gear and be good. If I had run BPO gear, I would have been smashed by a team of good players in full proto. We probably still would have won, but that is just me in BPO gear, not everyone. Yes, the proto was needed to put up that score against that sort of enemy.
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Posted - 2015.04.22 14:59:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Dear players, we have been contacted by a large majority of key players in PC. I would like to extend the invitation for a few days more, and calling out specifically large District Holders that have not been in touch. As before, you absolutely don't have to be a current PC player today, only have interest in making it better. I would also specifically request that players in the Latin American community be in contact as they are as a whole a large holder, but for the most part multiple corporations holding one or two districts. We will be rolling out a questionnaire and sharing more information about PC 2.0 and its mechanics. In no specific order, corps with more than one district that have NOT been in contact. Ahrendee Inc Planet Express KAPPA.514 THE LAST H0PE GALAXY T-SOLDIERS The Naughty Ninjas Rebelion TLC X-TREME STARS D3ATH CARD KAIBA-Corporation LATINOS KILLERS CORP Heaven84 Devils The Hundred Acre Hood CAPPA.514 Eternal Beings Astroya Guard Grupo de Asalto Chacal Darkside Killes corp SKILL OF GOD The Anarchy Effect GAME .I. OVER Please send skype, player name and corporation information to [email protected]
Several of those corps such as kappa, last hope, skill of god, grupo, kaiba, galaxy t and probably a couple others speak primarily another language and not much if any English. Cappa is obviously Kappas farm corp that they havent lost or transferred yet. Some that I have not listed entered and remain in PC out of the kindness if communities heart and due to the last district rule. All just heads ups.
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