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BAD FURRY wrote:

LUGMOS wrote:

Shields are hit and run and fast regen...

I think that is pretty BS trying it out. Blaster maddies can also be hit and run when equipped with an injector, except they're better than shields for hit and run because they can actually take a beating, and regen while in the fight. They can also be fit for stand and deliver, and then bail out when low on HP with an injector.

Not only that, but they can also effectively engage infantry without having to switch turrets like the Gunnlogi. A Madrugar with a railgun is also better at ranged engagements unless the rail tank was cover, which conversely, if both tanks have cover, it will be a stalemate.

Shield tank regen was nerfed substantially, and fitting a regulator right now is not very effective as you're sacrificing hardeners and boosters and tank, not something you want to do. The situation might be better once they are moved to the low slots, but it might not be too much.

Now, I'm not saying a smart tanker can make it work, its just that the Gunnlogi doesn't offer much a Madrugar can't do. Now, if it was possible, circle of deathing a Madrugar would be awesome, but the maps aren't very good for that kind of thing as they arent very open for the size of the tanks, making that impossible to do.

yes back when tanks where tanks im talking eve and vip ps3 only shields did zip around armor tank

but then dum players wanted tanks that cant driff and slower shield tanks

do to that nerff shields have all ways been F'ed up

injectors need to be in the low,s not mids and we need nano fibers back !

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Genral69 death Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 147	Posted - 2015.04.14 15:17:00 - [1] - Quote So since the update with hav' s gunlogis are so under powered vs a madrugar. I tryed a triple hardened madruger out and it good as long as you have a harderner available and good reps to see you through it. Works pretty damn good even on a basic tank . Yet I tried a triple harderned gunlogi with 2 boosters and you still get completely recked. Plus I believe the shield harderners take longer to recharge (don't quote me on that ). My point being going gunlogi vs madrugar is completely suicide at the moment. I like gunlogis they are faster and manover better but compaired to the Amor bassed the get recked all the time General limited: warming failure to pay, may lead to death,massive amount of pain or even lose of family. Since 1995
Ghosts Chance Intara Direct Action Caldari State 3306	Posted - 2015.04.14 15:36:00 - [2] - Quote my 4x complex dmg mod gunnlogi says otherwise i eat plateless maddies for breakfast, and 1x plate maddies for lunch. the only tank i cant kill in 4 or less shots is duna's 2x plate 2x hardener fit.... not that it matters since he bails out after shot number 1 anyways. Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Genral69 death Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 147	Posted - 2015.04.14 15:45:00 - [3] - Quote Ok ill give you that. Sounds like a good Av fit but what about infanty. Say your using a blaster what would you fit? General limited: warming failure to pay, may lead to death,massive amount of pain or even lose of family. Since 1995
Ghosts Chance Intara Direct Action Caldari State 3307	Posted - 2015.04.14 15:47:00 - [4] - Quote Genral69 death wrote: Ok ill give you that. Sounds like a good Av fit but what about infanty. Say your using a blaster what would you fit? no blaster, shoot infantry with a railgun. highest rail game is 59-0 in chrome, 22-0 in uprising 27-0 in warlords. ask kubo if you doubt me :P Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
SLENDER M4N Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 114	Posted - 2015.04.14 15:57:00 - [5] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: my 4x complex dmg mod gunnlogi says otherwise i eat plateless maddies for breakfast, and 1x plate maddies for lunch. the only tank i cant kill in 4 or less shots is duna's 2x plate 2x hardener fit.... not that it matters since he bails out after shot number 1 anyways. I helped with the destruction of those tanks. You just never noticed. Scrub till the day I die. PSN: ca2334ca
Everything Dies Raging Wrath of the Easter Bunny 1330	Posted - 2015.04.14 15:57:00 - [6] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: my 4x complex dmg mod gunnlogi says otherwise i eat plateless maddies for breakfast, and 1x plate maddies for lunch. the only tank i cant kill in 4 or less shots is duna's 2x plate 2x hardener fit.... not that it matters since he bails out after shot number 1 anyways. Gunni? I thought the Sica was what you used for maximum trolling! Mike Patton is the greatest singer in music. Proof
Ghosts Chance Intara Direct Action Caldari State 3308	Posted - 2015.04.14 15:59:00 - [7] - Quote Everything Dies wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: my 4x complex dmg mod gunnlogi says otherwise i eat plateless maddies for breakfast, and 1x plate maddies for lunch. the only tank i cant kill in 4 or less shots is duna's 2x plate 2x hardener fit.... not that it matters since he bails out after shot number 1 anyways. Gunni? I thought the Sica was what you used for maximum trolling! depends on whos in the maddie, if they are small fry they get teh militia rail, if they know their **** they get the gank tank. Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Ghosts Chance Intara Direct Action Caldari State 3308	Posted - 2015.04.14 16:00:00 - [8] - Quote SLENDER M4N wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: my 4x complex dmg mod gunnlogi says otherwise i eat plateless maddies for breakfast, and 1x plate maddies for lunch. the only tank i cant kill in 4 or less shots is duna's 2x plate 2x hardener fit.... not that it matters since he bails out after shot number 1 anyways. I helped with the destruction of those tanks. You just never noticed. by my count i have either you or snuggy on 12 of 27 proto maddy kills and countless small fry Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Genral69 death Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 147	Posted - 2015.04.14 16:12:00 - [9] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Genral69 death wrote: Ok ill give you that. Sounds like a good Av fit but what about infanty. Say your using a blaster what would you fit? no blaster, shoot infantry with a railgun. highest rail game is 59-0 in chrome, 22-0 in uprising 27-0 in warlords. ask kubo if you doubt me :P Now your just avoiding the question. Yes you may be good with a rail but what would you do with a blaster considering the plasman cannon and flux grenades are very affective against shield tanks General limited: warming failure to pay, may lead to death,massive amount of pain or even lose of family. Since 1995
Ghosts Chance Intara Direct Action Caldari State 3308	Posted - 2015.04.14 16:14:00 - [10] - Quote Genral69 death wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Genral69 death wrote: Ok ill give you that. Sounds like a good Av fit but what about infanty. Say your using a blaster what would you fit? no blaster, shoot infantry with a railgun. highest rail game is 59-0 in chrome, 22-0 in uprising 27-0 in warlords. ask kubo if you doubt me :P Now your just avoiding the question. Yes you may be good with a rail but what would you do with a blaster considering the plasman cannon and flux grenades are very affective against shield tanks i dont do blasters, i wont touch them with a 10 foot pole. keep range and use your regen to your advantage with rails or missles, thats what gunnies are for range also negates both plasma cannons and flux :P Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost

Slave of MORTE 367	Posted - 2015.04.14 16:24:00 - [11] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: my 4x complex dmg mod gunnlogi says otherwise i eat plateless maddies for breakfast, and 1x plate maddies for lunch. the only tank i cant kill in 4 or less shots is duna's 2x plate 2x hardener fit.... not that it matters since he bails out after shot number 1 anyways. Yuuuup I'm her slave because amarrians are the best in the sheets #stamina
DEATH THE KlD Seven Kin of Purgatory 113	Posted - 2015.04.14 16:24:00 - [12] - Quote Rail is caldari blaster is gal so by default yes the maddy should be better than a gunny if both have blasters. All caldari including dropsuits are meant for medium/long range, the complete opposite of blasters.
Ghosts Chance Intara Direct Action Caldari State 3308	Posted - 2015.04.14 16:33:00 - [13] - Quote the problem your encountering is that your trying to use the gunny as a blaster tank.... use ANY other weapon and yull start wreaking maddies Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Count- -Crotchula Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 13	Posted - 2015.04.14 16:42:00 - [14] - Quote how can you call a gunloggi underpowered when I see duna rolling around with 6880 shield and a ***** shield hardener?! you get wrecked because you suck. forges VS shield tanks are ***** impossible!
BAD FURRY Oh No You Didn't 834	Posted - 2015.04.14 16:48:00 - [15] - Quote Genral69 death wrote: So since the update with hav' s gunlogis are so under powered vs a madrugar. I tryed a triple hardened madruger out and it good as long as you have a harderner available and good reps to see you through it. Works pretty damn good even on a basic tank . Yet I tried a triple harderned gunlogi with 2 boosters and you still get completely recked. Plus I believe the shield harderners take longer to recharge (don't quote me on that ). My point being going gunlogi vs madrugar is completely suicide at the moment. I like gunlogis they are faster and manover better but compaired to the Amor bassed the get recked all the time ok just read this and take 2 and then think shield tanks fast hit and run tanks not for hard to head combat with other tanks armor tanks slow hi def rip you a new one if your in range of me tank made for head to head tank combat shield tank do to its speed good at killing drop suits armor tanks do to its speed hard to take on drop suits shield tanks with speed not meant to stay in one spot and more like the fox running around hunting its prey keeping out of site from the wolf yet when the wolf s back is turned takes the wolfs kill and runs off. armor tanks with hi def meant to work as a team holding down points like the wolf pack hunts and holds down its prey for the kill. your shield tank are meant to be not as strong as the armor tanks so if your using them to gun for other tanks your playing wrong. Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 2003	Posted - 2015.04.14 18:31:00 - [16] - Quote Count- -Crotchula wrote: how can you call a gunloggi underpowered when I see duna rolling around with 6880 shield and a ***** shield hardener?! you get wrecked because you suck. forges VS shield tanks are ***** impossible! GLOBAL-RAGE, is that you? ?? I literally can not understand how people can survive being so inept.
Scheneighnay McBob Cult of Gasai 6007	Posted - 2015.04.14 18:33:00 - [17] - Quote You fail to understand shields vs armor Shields are for hit and run; they can't take too many hits, but they recover quickly. Armor is for standing your ground; it can take a beating, but when they're ****, they're ****. Of course an armor tanked HAV is going to be better at a straight up brawl. Some details can be ignored
Genral69 death Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 147	Posted - 2015.04.14 18:39:00 - [18] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: You fail to understand shields vs armor Shields are for hit and run; they can't take too many hits, but they recover quickly. Armor is for standing your ground; it can take a beating, but when they're ****, they're ****. Of course an armor tanked HAV is going to be better at a straight up brawl. The main point is which one would win on a close battle, but when against infanty they still fail epicly General limited: warming failure to pay, may lead to death,massive amount of pain or even lose of family. Since 1995
Alex-ZX Valor Coalition 307	Posted - 2015.04.14 19:14:00 - [19] - Quote To the OP, shields aren't use to stand against huge dps, and following Eve history caldarians are supposed to attack at longer ranges. In other words you are trying to use something that isn't supposed to be used like that. And in here we do not have passive shield tanking, so you won't be able to tank like one madrugar. To me is pretty good. Alex's modified ZX-030 HMG Luis' modified VC-107 CR Alex's modified VC-107 SMG *Owner of this beasts*
BAD FURRY Oh No You Didn't 836	Posted - 2015.04.14 19:25:00 - [20] - Quote Genral69 death wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: You fail to understand shields vs armor Shields are for hit and run; they can't take too many hits, but they recover quickly. Armor is for standing your ground; it can take a beating, but when they're ****, they're **. Of course an armor tanked HAV is going to be better at a straight up brawl. The main point isnt which one would win on a close battle, but when against infanty they still fail epicly "cannon equipped (aka "males"), as also machine guns equipped ("females"), with rotating turrets (like the French Renault FT)" tanks are meant to work as a team not one tank by its self . i can see that females have a better chance at takeing on troops by them selfs but still a daffed idea if its planing on sitting in one spot . this is why tanks suck vs drop suits no one groups them and even then the av in the game is op when one man go,s one on one and kills tanks . why i say the pro tanks need a buff 1mill for a fit and your still as good as a ** soma / SDT tank but back to shields vs armor shields are hit and run they move to live armor has the hi def it needs so it can sit and pound back. Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!

LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 3439	Posted - 2015.04.14 20:43:00 - [21] - Quote Shields are hit and run and fast regen... I think that is pretty BS trying it out. Blaster maddies can also be hit and run when equipped with an injector, except they're better than shields for hit and run because they can actually take a beating, and regen while in the fight. They can also be fit for stand and deliver, and then bail out when low on HP with an injector. Not only that, but they can also effectively engage infantry without having to switch turrets like the Gunnlogi. A Madrugar with a railgun is also better at ranged engagements unless the rail tank was cover, which conversely, if both tanks have cover, it will be a stalemate. Shield tank regen was nerfed substantially, and fitting a regulator right now is not very effective as you're sacrificing hardeners and boosters and tank, not something you want to do. The situation might be better once they are moved to the low slots, but it might not be too much. Now, I'm not saying a smart tanker can make it work, its just that the Gunnlogi doesn't offer much a Madrugar can't do. Now, if it was possible, circle of deathing a Madrugar would be awesome, but the maps aren't very good for that kind of thing as they arent very open for the size of the tanks, making that impossible to do. Shotguns are made of a Scandium-Ruthenium-Boron enhanced alloy First to PM me with common name wins
BAD FURRY Oh No You Didn't 836	Posted - 2015.04.15 03:25:00 - [22] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: Shields are hit and run and fast regen... I think that is pretty BS trying it out. Blaster maddies can also be hit and run when equipped with an injector, except they're better than shields for hit and run because they can actually take a beating, and regen while in the fight. They can also be fit for stand and deliver, and then bail out when low on HP with an injector. Not only that, but they can also effectively engage infantry without having to switch turrets like the Gunnlogi. A Madrugar with a railgun is also better at ranged engagements unless the rail tank was cover, which conversely, if both tanks have cover, it will be a stalemate. Shield tank regen was nerfed substantially, and fitting a regulator right now is not very effective as you're sacrificing hardeners and boosters and tank, not something you want to do. The situation might be better once they are moved to the low slots, but it might not be too much. Now, I'm not saying a smart tanker can make it work, its just that the Gunnlogi doesn't offer much a Madrugar can't do. Now, if it was possible, circle of deathing a Madrugar would be awesome, but the maps aren't very good for that kind of thing as they arent very open for the size of the tanks, making that impossible to do. yes back when tanks where tanks im talking eve and vip ps3 only shields did zip around armor tank but then dum players wanted tanks that cant driff and slower shield tanks do to that nerff shields have all ways been F'ed up injectors need to be in the low,s not mids and we need nano fibers back ! Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
Slave of MORTE 370	Posted - 2015.04.15 11:00:00 - [23] - Quote BAD FURRY wrote: LUGMOS wrote: Shields are hit and run and fast regen... I think that is pretty BS trying it out. Blaster maddies can also be hit and run when equipped with an injector, except they're better than shields for hit and run because they can actually take a beating, and regen while in the fight. They can also be fit for stand and deliver, and then bail out when low on HP with an injector. Not only that, but they can also effectively engage infantry without having to switch turrets like the Gunnlogi. A Madrugar with a railgun is also better at ranged engagements unless the rail tank was cover, which conversely, if both tanks have cover, it will be a stalemate. Shield tank regen was nerfed substantially, and fitting a regulator right now is not very effective as you're sacrificing hardeners and boosters and tank, not something you want to do. The situation might be better once they are moved to the low slots, but it might not be too much. Now, I'm not saying a smart tanker can make it work, its just that the Gunnlogi doesn't offer much a Madrugar can't do. Now, if it was possible, circle of deathing a Madrugar would be awesome, but the maps aren't very good for that kind of thing as they arent very open for the size of the tanks, making that impossible to do. yes back when tanks where tanks im talking eve and vip ps3 only shields did zip around armor tank but then dum players wanted tanks that cant driff and slower shield tanks do to that nerff shields have all ways been F'ed up injectors need to be in the low,s not mids and we need nano fibers back ! Chassis nano fibers fusion. Over drives ..so much I'm her slave because amarrians are the best in the sheets #stamina
VALCORE72 Vengeance Unbound RUST415 281	Posted - 2015.04.15 11:03:00 - [24] - Quote gunnys for ranged combat .. maddys are brawlers . think about it asian haters united lol .


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