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Jack the Rlpper
OUTCAST MERCS
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.04.13 05:01:00 -
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The Commando is a mix of Assault and Sentinel so I think the Commando should be a mix. They should have the high slots of their racial assault suits and the low slots of their racial sentinels.
I would like all who agree to please Sign here so that CCP may change it.
JACK THE RLPPER
Cleric Prestin
Give me ISK please so I may better myself and fight the war of proto forever.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
5789
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Posted - 2015.04.13 05:06:00 -
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Given the base HP of the Commando, this would be absurdly overpowered.
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Jack the Rlpper
OUTCAST MERCS
General Tso's Alliance
170
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Posted - 2015.04.13 05:29:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Given the base HP of the Commando, this would be absurdly overpowered.
Not really because it has less hp then a sentinel and assault i can get almost twice the hp on my assaults then my commandos its a cross breed it should be not less then both.
Give me ISK please so I may better myself and fight the war of proto forever.
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Boot Booter
Titans of Phoenix
RUST415
1291
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Posted - 2015.04.13 05:39:00 -
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I just can't even begin to understand the logic behind this. They are not a mix of assault and sentinels. They are their own role. |
Jack the Rlpper
OUTCAST MERCS
General Tso's Alliance
170
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Posted - 2015.04.13 05:45:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote:I just can't even begin to understand the logic behind this. They are not a mix of assault and sentinels. They are their own role.
Wrong they were made to be a bigger stronger assault with 2 light weapons and were made of sentinel suits that were gutted to give the suit for speed.
Give me ISK please so I may better myself and fight the war of proto forever.
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Songs of Seraphim
Negative-Feedback
487
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Posted - 2015.04.13 06:00:00 -
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Commandos certainly need a buff (along logistics) but your proposed "changes" are absurd...
There was a thread about this a while ago... with commandos given the same high/low as sentinels.
Caldari loyalist
Seraphim's Warehouse
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castba
Rogue Instincts
Ashtar Federation
844
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Posted - 2015.04.13 06:02:00 -
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Hmm, my Ammando would love this.
The output of my LR and aSCR would be lovely with three dmg mods.
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Pocket Rocket Girl
Psygod9
327
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Posted - 2015.04.13 06:04:00 -
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put me in
Moo?
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killian178
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
135
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Posted - 2015.04.13 06:10:00 -
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While I agree they need a buff, it should only be extra slots, and a grenade. Their supposed to be slow, I get that, but the fitting space on those things makes them not versatile enough
Every commando k.o, every weapon at adv or above. Don't give a damn bout my kdr, I will kill you.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
5789
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Posted - 2015.04.13 07:01:00 -
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Jack the Rlpper wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Given the base HP of the Commando, this would be absurdly overpowered. Not really because it has less hp then a sentinel and assault i can get almost twice the hp on my assaults then my commandos its a cross breed it should be not less then both.
Im not entirely sure what you're fitting to your Commando and Assault, but in say the case of the Caldari, the Commando has a base shield HP of a little more then 2 Proto Shield Extenders, which incidentally is the same number of additional slots the Assault has over the Commando. Meaning that if he fill said slots with shield extenders, he'll have roughly the same HP as the Commando. Even if you use the additional 2 low slots for armor plates, it'll only gain the Assault about 150 or so more armor HP than the Commando.
How exactly is that "almost twice the HP"?
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
3405
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Posted - 2015.04.13 07:35:00 -
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Need moar stamina. That is one of my biggest gripes.
My 'Quafe' Assault A-1 is made of a Sulfur-Tungsten-Silver-Gallium Alloy
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Balamob
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
51
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Posted - 2015.04.13 07:48:00 -
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Sentinels slots (with the proper CPU/PG increase) and shield recharge delay of sentinels, thats all it needs.
exMAG vet.
Sver faction
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
5789
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Posted - 2015.04.13 07:52:00 -
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Balamob wrote:Sentinels slots (with the proper CPU/PG increase) and shield recharge delay of sentinels, thats all it needs.
Exactly. Maybe a bit more mobility (stamina?) as well.
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Reign Omega
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
1402
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Posted - 2015.04.13 08:47:00 -
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I'll say the same thing here that I did during the march for plasma rifle equality. I don't have any problems using it now, but sure...buff away.
Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
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Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H
264
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Posted - 2015.04.13 11:32:00 -
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Jack the Rlpper wrote:Boot Booter wrote:I just can't even begin to understand the logic behind this. They are not a mix of assault and sentinels. They are their own role. Wrong they were made to be a bigger stronger assault with 2 light weapons and were made of sentinel suits that were gutted to give the suit for speed.
See here this is where you are wrong. A commando is for SUPRESSION, it says so in its description. Assault suits are for frontlines meaning they are mostly for pushing into the objective while the commando serves the same purpose as the sentinel just a different method.think of it like this a teams line of defence first consists of the scout for reconaissance then comes the assault suits as our main means of attack, this is followed by the commando who are built to defend the objective from a distance and finally our last line of defence, the sentinel and logi, the impenetrable wall guarding the objective which where they got the name 'sentinel' as in a guardian
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Mejt0
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
1249
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Posted - 2015.04.13 12:30:00 -
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Nade slot + one high/low slot would help.
About thier hp as someone mentioned before.
Assaults have more hp and regen than commandos.
Amarr, Cal and gal commandos are not worth using cuz assaults can do everything better than them.
Minmando is usable for AV + AI/AoE. And it has less/same hp than min assault.
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Russel Mendoza
7th air cav
37
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Posted - 2015.04.13 12:40:00 -
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my only problem with the commando the way it is now
is their f u c king ewar,
i have dropship landing on my head, i never saw it coming
increase base scan precision and range, and im all good
i'm signing my name for this commando buff.
I'm the biggest Dustard in the universe!!!
Summoning technique "Gorgon no jutsu"
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Bremen van Equis
Incorruptibles
342
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Posted - 2015.04.13 12:54:00 -
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Is your commando skill maxed? Are both your light weapon proficiencies maxed? Can you fit the best of whatever you need? Are you pairing the weapons with the racial bonus? Are all your core/ewar skills maxed?
Proto Galmando:
TacAR
Allotek PLC
Complex dmg mod
Complex kin-cat
Complex ferroscale plate
K-2 Hive
It's a charcoal-skinned, oily, red-eyed wrecking ball...and I wouldn't change a thing.
Buckle up, boysGǪthis ramp leads to space. -Axe Cop
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
9101
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Posted - 2015.04.13 13:17:00 -
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Bremen van Equis wrote:It's a charcoal-skinned, oily, red-eyed wrecking ball...and I wouldn't change a thing. I've seen this fitting in action. It performs very well and survives engagements my assaults would not.
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Powerh8er
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
718
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Posted - 2015.04.13 13:51:00 -
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Thing is, commandos and sentinels are slow and very vulnerable for retaliation. More HP wouldnt mateer much as most of their victims would seek vengeance.
Have you got anymore exploding carrots?
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
7060
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Posted - 2015.04.13 14:42:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Given the base HP of the Commando, this would be absurdly overpowered.
This.
Sentinel layout or bust. (which adds only one slot lol) |
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Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
8051
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Posted - 2015.04.13 16:57:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Balamob wrote:Sentinels slots (with the proper CPU/PG increase) and shield recharge delay of sentinels, thats all it needs. Exactly. Maybe a bit more mobility (stamina?) as well.
If we added a little mobility and another slot we might actually see something viable begin to gel.
Past that, I'd like to see one of the bonuses get folded into a recovery bonus so that Commandos can represent a sustained presence on the field.
As it standa they start with the HP similar to an average-fit assault. It's not bad, but there's really no options to the fittings worth speaking of. it's either fit for damage, or max the tank. There's just no utility value on the commandos.
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GeorgeN76
Senshi Slayers
17
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Posted - 2015.04.13 17:42:00 -
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GIVE THEM MORE STAMINA!! Ok caps lock off now.
Scouts and Swarms
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Bremen van Equis
Incorruptibles
344
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Posted - 2015.04.13 18:10:00 -
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GeorgeN76 wrote:GIVE THEM MORE STAMINA!! Ok caps lock off now.
Why do you need more stamina? As a commando you're the one who should remain behind to guard the point, not sprint off to the next fight.
Buckle up, boysGǪthis ramp leads to space. -Axe Cop
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Jack the Rlpper
OUTCAST MERCS
General Tso's Alliance
176
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Posted - 2015.04.13 18:12:00 -
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[quote=Bremen van Equis]Is your commando skill maxed? Are both your light weapon proficiencies maxed? Can you fit the best of whatever you need? Are you pairing the weapons with the racial bonus? Are all your core/ewar skills maxed?
Proto Galmando:
TacAR
Allotek PLC
Complex dmg mod
Complex kin-cat
Complex ferroscale plate
K-2 Hive
It's a charcoal-skinned, oily, red-eyed wrecking ball...and I wouldn't change a thing.
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I have 72 mil sp proto minmando swarms mass driver cr and ar and shotgun smg hmg all maxed and cores plus logi assault sentiel and scout i got it all they just need more to them then what they have honestly
Give me ISK please so I may better myself and fight the war of proto forever.
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GeorgeN76
Senshi Slayers
17
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Posted - 2015.04.13 18:38:00 -
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Bremen van Equis wrote:GeorgeN76 wrote:GIVE THEM MORE STAMINA!! Ok caps lock off now. Why do you need more stamina? As a commando you're the one who should remain behind to guard the point, not sprint off to the next fight.
Getting around to the installations to rehack them and resuply, depending on their location. They're not all next to the objective
Scouts and Swarms
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Awesome Pantaloons
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
887
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Posted - 2015.04.13 18:57:00 -
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Sure, sign me on. What you suggest is basically what you see on the Storm Raider's Commando ak.0, which is in all honesty the only really good commando suit, because it is what the non-officer commando should be.
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Bremen van Equis
Incorruptibles
344
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Posted - 2015.04.13 19:06:00 -
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Sounds like y'all want super-powerful assault suits. TIP: Skill into Amarr assault and scrambler rifle. Shoot first.
Buckle up, boysGǪthis ramp leads to space. -Axe Cop
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Reign Omega
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
1402
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Posted - 2015.04.14 06:18:00 -
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Bremen van Equis wrote:Is your commando skill maxed? Are both your light weapon proficiencies maxed? Can you fit the best of whatever you need? Are you pairing the weapons with the racial bonus? Are all your core/ewar skills maxed?
Proto Galmando:
TacAR
Allotek PLC
Complex dmg mod
Complex kin-cat
Complex ferroscale plate
K-2 Hive
It's a charcoal-skinned, oily, red-eyed wrecking ball...and I wouldn't change a thing.
This guy gets it. Ive been running this fit since I skilled into gcom, and still have over 200 neo suits from the event. It only got better when the Ar got buffed and now the plc... wanna buff it more? Go for it duuuuude!
Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
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