DUST Search - Issues with Loyalty Store BPOs

Quil Evrything wrote:

I just spent a very.. very.. VERY long and painful time, getting 100,000 LP for the Caldari loyalty store

All so that I could buy a caldari scout BPO.

Then I finally get it.. and find I cannot change the fitttings??

I am really unhappy about this.
I already own a Valor scout BPO. But I want a caldari scout bpo to match my normal race.
Why wont you let me have one??

I have a bunch of dropsuit module BPOs that I put onto my Valor suit.
Wont you at least let people replace the horrible BPO prefits, with OTHER BPO modules??
(and BPO weapons, while you're at it)

It's kinda insulting that the Hawk suits are supposedly "proto suits", yet they are no better than basic fits.
Pleas, please change them.

Either make them require actual cal scout skill.. and then unlock them...
or make them just level 1 caldari scout BPO dropsuits.. and then unlock them.

MAKE THEM EMPTY! and Then Unlock Them.
PLeeeeeeease!
They are useless to me as-is. I cant shoot either the RR or the Bolt pistol :(

Really unhappy with all the time I wasted on this as it is currently :(

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Quil Evrything Nos Nothi 1999	Posted - 2015.04.13 04:21:00 - [1] - Quote I just spent a very.. very.. VERY long and painful time, getting 100,000 LP for the Caldari loyalty store All so that I could buy a caldari scout BPO. Then I finally get it.. and find I cannot change the fitttings?? I am really unhappy about this. I already own a Valor scout BPO. But I want a caldari scout bpo to match my normal race. Why wont you let me have one?? I have a bunch of dropsuit module BPOs that I put onto my Valor suit. Wont you at least let people replace the horrible BPO prefits, with OTHER BPO modules?? (and BPO weapons, while you're at it) It's kinda insulting that the Hawk suits are supposedly "proto suits", yet they are no better than basic fits. Pleas, please change them. Either make them require actual cal scout skill.. and then unlock them... or make them just level 1 caldari scout BPO dropsuits.. and then unlock them. MAKE THEM EMPTY! and Then Unlock Them. PLeeeeeeease! They are useless to me as-is. I cant shoot either the RR or the Bolt pistol :( Really unhappy with all the time I wasted on this as it is currently :(
The Dark Cloud Negative-Feedback. 4362	Posted - 2015.04.13 05:16:00 - [2] - Quote The BPO suits are basically starter fits+. But because they are actually proto suits with the same fitting capability it would be a insane advantage if you could add any modules/weapons to it. The point of the suits is to allow you to run decent gear at 0 cost upon death. Not to stomp around in a free proto suit where you only payd the modules on. I make the scrubs scream and the vets cry.
Forced Death Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 465	Posted - 2015.04.13 05:24:00 - [3] - Quote Maybe you shoulda read before buying? Death by laser is imminent
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 6155	Posted - 2015.04.13 05:38:00 - [4] - Quote Sucks to suck... Maybe do a bit a research next time (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 10106	Posted - 2015.04.13 07:35:00 - [5] - Quote Forced Death wrote: Maybe you shoulda read before buying? *As long as 5/6 (83%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP*
Balamob Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 51	Posted - 2015.04.13 07:58:00 - [6] - Quote I dont see how replaicing standar modules with militia blueprints is OP but well they are free, on the other hand, APEX should be more persolized in my opinion with basic modules on the loyalty store for each respective faction . exMAG vet. Sver faction
501st Headstrong 0uter.Heaven Back and Forth 935	Posted - 2015.04.13 10:42:00 - [7] - Quote Quil Evrything wrote: I just spent a very.. very.. VERY long and painful time, getting 100,000 LP for the Caldari loyalty store All so that I could buy a caldari scout BPO. Then I finally get it.. and find I cannot change the fitttings?? I am really unhappy about this. I already own a Valor scout BPO. But I want a caldari scout bpo to match my normal race. Why wont you let me have one?? I have a bunch of dropsuit module BPOs that I put onto my Valor suit. Wont you at least let people replace the horrible BPO prefits, with OTHER BPO modules?? (and BPO weapons, while you're at it) It's kinda insulting that the Hawk suits are supposedly "proto suits", yet they are no better than basic fits. Pleas, please change them. Either make them require actual cal scout skill.. and then unlock them... or make them just level 1 caldari scout BPO dropsuits.. and then unlock them. MAKE THEM EMPTY! and Then Unlock Them. PLeeeeeeease! They are useless to me as-is. I cant shoot either the RR or the Bolt pistol :( Really unhappy with all the time I wasted on this as it is currently :( This was stated when they first came out. "There are no rights. The world owes no one a living."-Sumner *The Mascot of 0uter.Heaven * SWBF Trailer April
Stormblade Green KnightKiller's inc. 71	Posted - 2015.04.13 11:26:00 - [8] - Quote Quil Evrything wrote: I just spent a very.. very.. VERY long and painful time, getting 100,000 LP for the Caldari loyalty store All so that I could buy a caldari scout BPO. Then I finally get it.. and find I cannot change the fitttings?? I am really unhappy about this. I already own a Valor scout BPO. But I want a caldari scout bpo to match my normal race. Why wont you let me have one?? I have a bunch of dropsuit module BPOs that I put onto my Valor suit. Wont you at least let people replace the horrible BPO prefits, with OTHER BPO modules?? (and BPO weapons, while you're at it) It's kinda insulting that the Hawk suits are supposedly "proto suits", yet they are no better than basic fits. Pleas, please change them. Either make them require actual cal scout skill.. and then unlock them... or make them just level 1 caldari scout BPO dropsuits.. and then unlock them. MAKE THEM EMPTY! and Then Unlock Them. PLeeeeeeease! They are useless to me as-is. I cant shoot either the RR or the Bolt pistol :( Really unhappy with all the time I wasted on this as it is currently :( Have you been living under a rock? Just wondering...... One might say... I'm very skilled... yet I'm his apprentice... So what does that say about my mentor?
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4258	Posted - 2015.04.13 14:50:00 - [9] - Quote Quil Evrything wrote: I just spent a very.. very.. VERY long and painful time, getting 100,000 LP for the Caldari loyalty store All so that I could buy a caldari scout BPO. Then I finally get it.. and find I cannot change the fitttings?? I am really unhappy about this. I already own a Valor scout BPO. But I want a caldari scout bpo to match my normal race. Why wont you let me have one?? I have a bunch of dropsuit module BPOs that I put onto my Valor suit. Wont you at least let people replace the horrible BPO prefits, with OTHER BPO modules?? (and BPO weapons, while you're at it) It's kinda insulting that the Hawk suits are supposedly "proto suits", yet they are no better than basic fits. Pleas, please change them. Either make them require actual cal scout skill.. and then unlock them... or make them just level 1 caldari scout BPO dropsuits.. and then unlock them. MAKE THEM EMPTY! and Then Unlock Them. PLeeeeeeease! They are useless to me as-is. I cant shoot either the RR or the Bolt pistol :( Really unhappy with all the time I wasted on this as it is currently :( The current iteration of the APEX suits are not fully optimized by design. Providing a Prototype level BPO in game would substantially impact the meaning of ISK and loss within the economy and as such is not planned at this time. The 'Kaalakiota' Scout C-1 is available on the market if you desire a customizable Caldari scout BPO but the APEX suits are intended to remain at roughly the power level of a Standard fitting geared toward racial themes, not to provide an unlimited use Prototype suit. I can totally understand why it would be frustrating to think a fitting provides one thing and discover that it is designed with another intent in mind, however at this time the APEX are working as intended. I know that is almost certainly not the answer you were seeking for but I hope the added clarification will still be of some value. Cheers, Cross EDIT: PS ~ I have the same problems with the RR and Bolt Pistol See a cool idea thread? Mail me the title and I'll take a look =)
Alena Ventrallis Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 3008	Posted - 2015.04.13 15:04:00 - [10] - Quote The APEX suits should be modifiable, but only allow standard tier modules. Hell, I'd even go as far to say that they should be modifiable with special APEX module BPOs so that they never run out even if you switch up the fitting. Whirly gun make much thunder! - Victor

Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4260	Posted - 2015.04.13 15:44:00 - [11] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: The APEX suits should be modifiable, but only allow standard tier modules. Hell, I'd even go as far to say that they should be modifiable with special APEX module BPOs so that they never run out even if you switch up the fitting. Those are interesting ideas certainly, but would require a patch level update to the fittings and itemization systems as new code would be required to implement that type of behavior. That being the case it's unlikely we will see it in the near term as there are quite a few things which patches can be focused on. See a cool idea thread? Mail me the title and I'll take a look =)
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 6230	Posted - 2015.04.13 15:52:00 - [12] - Quote Quil Evrything wrote: I just spent a very.. very.. VERY long and painful time, getting 100,000 LP for the Caldari loyalty store All so that I could buy a caldari scout BPO. Then I finally get it.. and find I cannot change the fitttings?? I am really unhappy about this. I already own a Valor scout BPO. But I want a caldari scout bpo to match my normal race. Why wont you let me have one?? I have a bunch of dropsuit module BPOs that I put onto my Valor suit. Wont you at least let people replace the horrible BPO prefits, with OTHER BPO modules?? (and BPO weapons, while you're at it) It's kinda insulting that the Hawk suits are supposedly "proto suits", yet they are no better than basic fits. Pleas, please change them. Either make them require actual cal scout skill.. and then unlock them... or make them just level 1 caldari scout BPO dropsuits.. and then unlock them. MAKE THEM EMPTY! and Then Unlock Them. PLeeeeeeease! They are useless to me as-is. I cant shoot either the RR or the Bolt pistol :( Really unhappy with all the time I wasted on this as it is currently :( - Proto BPO's would be completely OP. - The only thing that keeps the APEX and Faction BPO's from being OP is that you can't change out the Standard modules on them. - Soon we will have Skins, and you will be able to put your faction Skin on your proto suits. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Quil Evrything Nos Nothi 2007	Posted - 2015.04.14 03:40:00 - [13] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: - Proto BPO's would be completely OP. and thats fine, so give us customizable basic level BPOS. not this "we'll taunt you with something that claims to be proto level but is really garbage" bait-n-switch.
Quil Evrything Nos Nothi 2007	Posted - 2015.04.14 03:42:00 - [14] - Quote oh, and for the record, 501st Headstrong wrote: This was stated when they first came out. and then I read somwehre, "you CAN customize them, but only when you first create the fittling". I unfortunately didnt see any followup, of "oh that feature has been elimited now". Grrr..
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 6236	Posted - 2015.04.14 12:11:00 - [15] - Quote Quil Evrything wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: - Proto BPO's would be completely OP. and thats fine, so give us customizable basic level BPOS. not this "we'll taunt you with something that claims to be proto level but is really garbage" bait-n-switch. When the skin system is introduced you can put the Faction suit skin on a Standard BPO, or put it on a fit that uses a single use Proto suit. You will get the look you want on the suit you want. This is coming in the short term if I understand the situation correctly. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Banjo Robertson Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 526	Posted - 2015.04.14 13:09:00 - [16] - Quote Quil Evrything wrote: I just spent a very.. very.. VERY long and painful time, getting 100,000 LP for the Caldari loyalty store All so that I could buy a caldari scout BPO. Then I finally get it.. and find I cannot change the fitttings?? I am really unhappy about this. I already own a Valor scout BPO. But I want a caldari scout bpo to match my normal race. Why wont you let me have one?? I have a bunch of dropsuit module BPOs that I put onto my Valor suit. Wont you at least let people replace the horrible BPO prefits, with OTHER BPO modules?? (and BPO weapons, while you're at it) It's kinda insulting that the Hawk suits are supposedly "proto suits", yet they are no better than basic fits. Pleas, please change them. Either make them require actual cal scout skill.. and then unlock them... or make them just level 1 caldari scout BPO dropsuits.. and then unlock them. MAKE THEM EMPTY! and Then Unlock Them. PLeeeeeeease! They are useless to me as-is. I cant shoot either the RR or the Bolt pistol :( Really unhappy with all the time I wasted on this as it is currently :( Well at least you know now that every time you ran into someone using those suits when you were farming the 100k LP that it wasnt that powerful of a suit to begin with, being that its locked. When they were introduced CCP said they were locked though. I can understand not seeing that information because it can be difficult to find if you dont even know you need to look for it. I like to think of it as just having another starter fit that is slightly better and very pretty. I'm working on my third gallente BPO now.


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