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Posted - 2015.04.11 18:36:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:I can only imagine how much greater this game could be without the restrictions of the ageing PS3 architecture.
And I can only imagine how much greater this game could be had there been a team as competent as the current one in charge from the get go. Certainly, eventually the PS3 would have restricted development but it's not the root cause of the road blocks currently being hit, merely a contributing factor.
Do you know who I am? I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a small deal, not many people know me.
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Posted - 2015.04.11 20:05:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Cat Merc wrote:So, you find one place where the physics are hilarious and act like the whole game is just that? That car is highly upgraded with armor, far beyond physics would allow, which is why it behaves like that. Most cars in this game would behave as you would expect. Now compare it to DUST and... well... LOL That was the first example I found. I can find much more hilarious failures there are many of them.
You make it sound like we can't find many more hilarious and not so hilarious failures here in Dust. That's pretty much has been Dust's schtick up until recently.
Do you know who I am? I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a small deal, not many people know me.
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Posted - 2015.04.11 20:22:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:VAHZZ wrote:That is why it should be on PC. I can name several reasons why it would be much better, at least on launch for it to be on the PS4.
Off topic. I'm kind of shocked to not see an unnecessarily hostile comment from you. Are you feeling okay?
Edit: on topic
Cat Merc wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Cat Merc wrote:You ain't weaseling out of this one IWS.
GTA V's physics are among the best in gaming, outside of full blown simulators.
Any game with physics, at least on the 7th gen consoles, would be very rough approximations.
You probably know very well that simulating real physics is very expensive calculation wise, and everyone has to hack to get results as similar to real life as they can.
Some do it better than others, and GTA V is definitely among the "better". Its weird. Its almost as if Rockstar has been working on consoles for as long as EVE has been around and has more experience with that kind of thing. I wonder if that would make a difference at all... I'm not saying I expect CCP to achieve Rockstar level physics. But I am saying that IWS saying that the physics in GTA V are simple is hilarious as f*ck, because they're among the best gaming can offer.
I think the point that should be stressed is we're not trying to compare CCP to other developers here, we're trying to point out that the blame for the state of the game can't be placed squarely on the PS3 (or at least that's my point)
Do you know who I am? I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a small deal, not many people know me.
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Posted - 2015.04.11 21:10:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Thumb Green wrote:Edit: on topic Cat Merc wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Cat Merc wrote:You ain't weaseling out of this one IWS.
GTA V's physics are among the best in gaming, outside of full blown simulators.
Any game with physics, at least on the 7th gen consoles, would be very rough approximations.
You probably know very well that simulating real physics is very expensive calculation wise, and everyone has to hack to get results as similar to real life as they can.
Some do it better than others, and GTA V is definitely among the "better". Its weird. Its almost as if Rockstar has been working on consoles for as long as EVE has been around and has more experience with that kind of thing. I wonder if that would make a difference at all... I'm not saying I expect CCP to achieve Rockstar level physics. But I am saying that IWS saying that the physics in GTA V are simple is hilarious as f*ck, because they're among the best gaming can offer. I think the point that should be stressed is we're not trying to compare CCP to other developers here, we're trying to point out that the blame for the state of the game can't be placed squarely on the PS3 (or at least that's my point) But you are comparing Apples and Oranges. The games are different, they have different computations they have to make aside from they physics, and unless you are a developer yourself and confident enough in the details, I for one am not confident in their similarity to suggest that its an appropriate comparison. Lets compare GTA V PS3/PS4. PS4 version has a 1st person mode, which Rockstar themselves said would be impossible on the PS3. Dust is 1st person, yet on the PS3. Not to mention having the variety of weapons etc. The situation is more complex than you are giving it credit for, and the GTA V comparison is not appropriate given all the differences.
I consider myself a hobbyist, though I have no experience with the ps3. I'm not really talking about the apples or the oranges, I'm talking about the barrel that holds them. On the surface I don't see anything special about dust, hell most of it was in Starseige: Tribes and that game only needed like ~30MB of ram and it had vehicles, up to 128 players a match, customizable classes and several other things I can't recall at the moment. The only thing more complex in Dust than Tribes is the graphics but most of that sh!t is unnecessary fluff because people rather look at a pretty turd than play a good game.
So on second thought, yeah the PS3 is holding Dust back, from being a pretty polished turd.
Do you know who I am? I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a small deal, not many people know me.
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Posted - 2015.04.12 04:09:00 -
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Isa Lucifer wrote:
P.S. IWS; what is your motivation to release all this info. Did you and Rattati had a falloff? I kinda like soap operas.
Because some people were flipping out over getting reskinned tanks for Amarr & Minmatar instead of completely new models. This was meant to keep people from complaining about not getting completely new stuff.
Do you know who I am? I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a small deal, not many people know me.
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Posted - 2015.04.13 04:38:00 -
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BAD FURRY wrote:hack how meany times have you loged in( the reader) to a battle and watching the ground load as you where walking on it (you know when its 5 ft off the ground or looks like a box be for turning into a rood)
Just yesterday I played an ambush on the production facility, I unloaded two clips on this guy up top through one of the windows getting all kind of ragey that he wasn't taking any damage and I wasn't getting any hit markers. So I just say fck it and start to look for someone else and just as I go to do that the fcking floor between me and the window loads in and I'm sitting there looking like an idiot, well more than usual.
I see blueberries
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