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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2015.04.11 20:19:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:You ain't weaseling out of this one IWS.
GTA V's physics are among the best in gaming, outside of full blown simulators.
Any game with physics, at least on the 7th gen consoles, would be very rough approximations.
You probably know very well that simulating real physics is very expensive calculation wise, and everyone has to hack to get results as similar to real life as they can.
Some do it better than others, and GTA V is definitely among the "better".
Its weird.
Its almost as if Rockstar has been working on consoles for as long as EVE has been around and has more experience with that kind of thing.
I wonder if that would make a difference at all...
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Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2015.04.11 20:47:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:Edit: on topic Cat Merc wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Cat Merc wrote:You ain't weaseling out of this one IWS.
GTA V's physics are among the best in gaming, outside of full blown simulators.
Any game with physics, at least on the 7th gen consoles, would be very rough approximations.
You probably know very well that simulating real physics is very expensive calculation wise, and everyone has to hack to get results as similar to real life as they can.
Some do it better than others, and GTA V is definitely among the "better". Its weird. Its almost as if Rockstar has been working on consoles for as long as EVE has been around and has more experience with that kind of thing. I wonder if that would make a difference at all... I'm not saying I expect CCP to achieve Rockstar level physics. But I am saying that IWS saying that the physics in GTA V are simple is hilarious as f*ck, because they're among the best gaming can offer. I think the point that should be stressed is we're not trying to compare CCP to other developers here, we're trying to point out that the blame for the state of the game can't be placed squarely on the PS3 (or at least that's my point)
But you are comparing Apples and Oranges.
The games are different, they have different computations they have to make aside from they physics, and unless you are a developer yourself and confident enough in the details, I for one am not confident in their similarity to suggest that its an appropriate comparison.
Lets compare GTA V PS3/PS4.
PS4 version has a 1st person mode, which Rockstar themselves said would be impossible on the PS3. Dust is 1st person, yet on the PS3. Not to mention having the variety of weapons etc.
The situation is more complex than you are giving it credit for, and the GTA V comparison is not appropriate given all the differences.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2015.04.12 01:19:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:
I consider myself a hobbyist, though I have no experience with the ps3. I'm not really talking about the apples or the oranges, I'm talking about the barrel that holds them. On the surface I don't see anything special about dust, hell most of it was in Starseige: Tribes and that game only needed like ~30MB of ram and it had vehicles, up to 128 players a match, customizable classes and several other things I can't recall at the moment (edit: and it's getting close to this being 20 years ago). The only thing more complex in Dust than Tribes is the graphics but most of that sh!t is unnecessary fluff because people rather look at a pretty turd than play a good game.
So on second thought, yeah the PS3 is holding Dust back, from being a pretty polished turd.
This is the problem with those of us that simply enjoy games trying to judge technical capabilities.
Are we always wrong? No.
Do we have the knowledge to tell the difference between when our observations are right, and when there are greater complexities beneath the surface? No.
Unless there is someone that can see the details and nuance, then we are all just pulling stuff out of our asses and can make up any story to suit our purposes we like.
So far, I am inclined to believe Rattati because he is someone I trust, and he has been straight forward with us, who can see behind the curtain at all the working parts we can't, than anyone who simply doesn't have all the knowledge and details necessary to say their conclusion is anything other than pure speculation.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2015.04.12 02:14:00 -
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SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote:The question now is why the hell havent we moved to the PS4 yet. F2P is acceptable now on the new platforms and it is just a better console overall
Resources and the fact that the PC is closer to PS4 in terms of development than the PS3 is to the PS4.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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