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Posted - 2015.04.07 21:49:00 -
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I honestly just don't get it. I worked my ass of early in this game and still remember the first time I finally had enough SP to skill into my caldari proto suit. The first time I jumped into battle, Finally getting the kit I had planned out weeks before.
Why do I not get to enjoy the suit I worked so hard for?
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Posted - 2015.04.07 22:11:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:The problem with proto, at least as seen by those complaining (validly, I believe) is that certain groups, like FA, NS, OH and others can run proto all the time because of their massive stores of ISK, while the majority cannot afford to do this because they weren't able to cash in on the insane passive ISK fest that was PC. Thus, even if they have the skills necessary to run proto, they can't fight the protostompers because they just don't have the money to do so.
Tiericide-ing dropsuits to behave in the manner of echo-tanks would help a lot of issues since basic fits would gain more power while proto fits would remain the same.
I'm by no means an amazing player but I run proto all the time and have never played a single game of PC.
I do this by saving my ISK and playing smart no matter the battle. I have 15 mil isk at any one time.
if the team is losing I don't follow them into battle because clearly their tactics suck, I switch to scout and hack/pick engagement carefully, that or I snipe.
If the enemy are mopping your team up go do your own thing. Allways ensure you have a positive score by the end of the match
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Posted - 2015.04.07 22:28:00 -
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Kierkegaard Soren wrote:My issue with Proto is never, ever with the player. You have earned, just as I have earned, the right to run that suit however you see fit. New Eden is not a universe that allows arbitary limits to be set on ones! Personal choices either. But, when all is said and done, we are all here to play games to have fun, and proto stomping is not fun for anyone. Teamwork, in the form of squad play, is the potent catalyst that focuses the inherent superiority of the proto fit and the skill bonuses that power them into an unstoppable force. Nothing but other proto teams can counter them. Well, tanks maybe. But maybe not. Point being, grunts with less than 20mil of carefully spent SP are getting steam rollered day in, day out, and it's bad for the game and bad for the player base and I believe Dust can be better than this.
I would say then that the matchmaking is the issue and not really that players are running proto suits, we need to match proto teams against each other in combat. I just wish people would stop posting day in day out to ban or remove or limit proto suits to their own game modes.
If they actually removed proto suits players would then be complaining about being stomed by teams running only advanced. its ridiculous, proto stomping is not a real thing. its just organised teams
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Posted - 2015.04.07 23:02:00 -
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JARREL THOMAS wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:The problem with proto, at least as seen by those complaining (validly, I believe) is that certain groups, like FA, NS, OH and others can run proto all the time because of their massive stores of ISK, while the majority cannot afford to do this because they weren't able to cash in on the insane passive ISK fest that was PC. Thus, even if they have the skills necessary to run proto, they can't fight the protostompers because they just don't have the money to do so.
Tiericide-ing dropsuits to behave in the manner of echo-tanks would help a lot of issues since basic fits would gain more power while proto fits would remain the same. Says the guy in the corp who was around for passive isk longer than Fa. So tell me does everyone in your corp run full time proto. Go away this doesn't even matter.
Thank you, its allways nice to see people keeping a thread on topic
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Posted - 2015.04.08 00:23:00 -
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Forced Death wrote:
Now you are part of the permanent proto too. Can I have ISK :)
But how? Everyone is like, run ambush, gets lots of ISK! Then you go into battle with a proto suit, confident you have the ISK to afford it. Then everyone else runs proto and you're dead. They can keep on running it, but you cannot
That's not how it works at all.
good players play well and allways make sure they are getting positive ISK for their investment each game.
They go into a match, use 2-3 proto fits, win or lose they still end with positive ISK. sure you have the few exceptions where they lose a little but you make it up in another match later.
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Posted - 2015.04.08 11:40:00 -
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The Infected One wrote:I've been stomping in STD gear 90% of the time for months now, making a killing in ISK. Organized squad play > randoms in PRO. That being said, with the new matchmaking, I'm finding myself running more ADV or PRO just to make up for the fact that it has been putting us in 6v16 games, or 12 v 16 but my team seems to be full of academy rejects...
Just because you have the gear, doesn't mean you know how to use it to its full potential.
Just the thoughts of one of the players in the mentioned corps by OP.
I didn't mention any corps?? I've played a few games with randomer's in squads but your right in saying organised play is stronger then randoms in proto, I'm the only one currently active in my small little corp but when were all ingame we rek the battlefield
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Posted - 2015.04.08 11:42:00 -
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NINEinch WEAPON wrote:itz ehhggkspensive....
Gertz monneys
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