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Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
1048
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Posted - 2015.04.07 21:42:00 -
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why is this turd on the bottom of variations for scouts.. it's got crap slots , but comes with free weapons...is the speed boost that great? seems to me you could do much better with other scout suits, but i'm not a scout so I don't know.
I tried search, but only got trade center links... can someone fill me in on why they are ranked as best? I have 136 of these things |
tal mrak-thanl
Aethan Dor
376
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Posted - 2015.04.07 21:48:00 -
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The shite scan profile makes the STD shotgun on that thing pointless. I guess it's cool that it's all black, that's about all its got going for it. |
Onesimus Tarsus
is-a-Corporation
3253
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Posted - 2015.04.07 22:00:00 -
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I can make an all-stats superior Amarr a-I scout for about 8k ISK.
Dying to everything since open beta!
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Eruditus 920
Nemo Malus Felix
1561
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Posted - 2015.04.07 22:07:00 -
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The slot deficiency is somewhat offset by the fact that the sidearm is an assault rifle.
Two light weapons. It's a good scout rig.
"Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
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Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
1050
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Posted - 2015.04.07 22:13:00 -
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Eruditus 920 wrote:The slot deficiency is somewhat offset by the fact that the sidearm is an assault rifle.
Two light weapons. It's a good scout rig.
ahh, I did not notice that.. that is a game changer, makes a little more sense now. Thanks |
tal mrak-thanl
Aethan Dor
379
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Posted - 2015.04.07 22:18:00 -
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I'll take a breach SMG over a STD assault rifle any day. |
Onesimus Tarsus
is-a-Corporation
3253
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Posted - 2015.04.07 22:20:00 -
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tal mrak-thanl wrote:I'll take a breach SMG over a STD assault rifle any day. ...and you can dual-wield them or mix-n-match with a ScrP or somesuch, all while using one sidearm Damage mod.
Tasty.
Dying to everything since open beta!
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Eruditus 920
Nemo Malus Felix
1562
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Posted - 2015.04.07 22:25:00 -
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tal mrak-thanl wrote:I'll take a breach SMG over a STD assault rifle any day.
I have both maxed and I'll take the AR every time.
I can open with an AR with confidence and the range is a no brainer.
I would never open with a SMG unless I was forced to.
The Black Eagle scout is a great rig, free or otherwise.
Anyone who doesn't want theirs I'll throw some ISK at you once player trading comes out.
"Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
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tal mrak-thanl
Aethan Dor
381
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Posted - 2015.04.07 22:33:00 -
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Just one low slot would be nice, that's all I'm sayin. The breach SMG is surprisingly effective as a primary, I keep it on most of my AV fits. And for all that I just badmouthed the BE, I wouldn't sell a single one of the scouts or ARs :). |
Sir Petersen
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1180
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Posted - 2015.04.07 22:36:00 -
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The Black Eagle is high fashion dude. You just can-¦t beat looking good.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
1930
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Posted - 2015.04.07 22:39:00 -
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It's a series suit with only one slot , which I find subpar or less then given the alternatives .
It should be at least a one high and three low setup .
That would make it more flexible and the cloak bonus should apply as well but it should only have one EQ slot .
That would be a fair trade off and not allow it to become OP .
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed . #PubsShouldBeRandomPlayers
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Sir Petersen
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1182
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Posted - 2015.04.07 22:41:00 -
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When you look good you feel good.
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tal mrak-thanl
Aethan Dor
382
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Posted - 2015.04.07 22:41:00 -
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It's basically a really lightweight assault w/ that crap scan profile and fitting cost. |
Eruditus 920
Nemo Malus Felix
1563
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Posted - 2015.04.07 22:48:00 -
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tal mrak-thanl wrote:Just one low slot would be nice, that's all I'm sayin. The breach SMG is surprisingly effective as a primary, I keep it on most of my AV fits. And for all that I just badmouthed the BE, I wouldn't sell a single one of the scouts or ARs :).
The SMG is my sidearm of choice, as it is for a lot of mercs. No revelation there. I use it all the time when I not shiite fitting.
The Breach SMG is my favorite variation since changes were made to sidearms back in 1.9? Can't remember. I used the Assault SMG prior to that.
I love the Black Eagle scout and am glad CCP provides them sometimes as daily mission rewards.
I have sported them on the warbarge in FW. That all black is sick!
And if you run scout, and specifically proto Gal scout as I do, the free Black Eagle is sweet.
I have screwed up a SG kill versus another strafing scout before and the sidearms come out and the dance begins.
But mine is a maxed out AR! RIP wannabe. And all while looking like I'm dressed in formal attire.
"Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
6978
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Posted - 2015.04.07 22:52:00 -
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It has a built in kincat, just to let you guys know. It's not much, but it's something. For being a Gallente Scout, it has **** profile. |
tal mrak-thanl
Aethan Dor
382
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Posted - 2015.04.07 22:53:00 -
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Haha, I'm picturing a bow tie and wing tips on it now. |
tal mrak-thanl
Aethan Dor
382
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Posted - 2015.04.07 22:55:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:It has a built in kincat, just to let you guys know. It's not much, but it's something. For being a Gallente Scout, it has **** profile.
Yeah, there's a hardly a point in cloaking. One decently fit scout or logi on the red, and you are all over the tacnet. |
Forced Death
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
431
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Posted - 2015.04.07 22:56:00 -
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Eruditus 920 wrote:tal mrak-thanl wrote:I'll take a breach SMG over a STD assault rifle any day. I have both maxed and I'll take the AR every time. I can open with an AR with confidence and the range is a no brainer. I would never open with a SMG unless I was forced to. The Black Eagle scout is a great rig, free or otherwise. Anyone who doesn't want theirs I'll throw some ISK at you once player trading comes out. I have 58, saving 8 for lolscout
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
3310
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Posted - 2015.04.07 23:25:00 -
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Sir Petersen wrote:The Black Eagle is high fashion dude. You just can-¦t beat looking good. The new BE scout has nothing on the old one... I wish they changed it back.
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
3310
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Posted - 2015.04.07 23:26:00 -
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Forced Death wrote:Eruditus 920 wrote:tal mrak-thanl wrote:I'll take a breach SMG over a STD assault rifle any day. I have both maxed and I'll take the AR every time. I can open with an AR with confidence and the range is a no brainer. I would never open with a SMG unless I was forced to. The Black Eagle scout is a great rig, free or otherwise. Anyone who doesn't want theirs I'll throw some ISK at you once player trading comes out. I have 58, saving 8 for lolscout Give them to me... I'm in your corp
I'll pay you handsomely
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Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
1050
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Posted - 2015.04.07 23:33:00 -
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Eruditus 920 wrote:tal mrak-thanl wrote:Just one low slot would be nice, that's all I'm sayin. The breach SMG is surprisingly effective as a primary, I keep it on most of my AV fits. And for all that I just badmouthed the BE, I wouldn't sell a single one of the scouts or ARs :). The SMG is my sidearm of choice, as it is for a lot of mercs. No revelation there. I use it all the time when I not shiite fitting. The Breach SMG is my favorite variation since changes were made to sidearms back in 1.9? Can't remember. I used the Assault SMG prior to that. I love the Black Eagle scout and am glad CCP provides them sometimes as daily mission rewards. I have sported them on the warbarge in FW. That all black is sick! And if you run scout, and specifically proto Gal scout as I do, the free Black Eagle is sweet. I have screwed up a SG kill versus another strafing scout before and the sidearms come out and the dance begins. But mine is a maxed out AR! RIP wannabe. And all while looking like I'm dressed in formal attire.
maxed out AR and SMG for me also , love the combo. I was gonna try to pick a new main weapon, but fell back onto my AR. Loving the breach lately, handles much better than when I remember trying it almost 2 years ago |
Eruditus 920
Nemo Malus Felix
1565
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Posted - 2015.04.07 23:42:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Eruditus 920 wrote:tal mrak-thanl wrote:Just one low slot would be nice, that's all I'm sayin. The breach SMG is surprisingly effective as a primary, I keep it on most of my AV fits. And for all that I just badmouthed the BE, I wouldn't sell a single one of the scouts or ARs :). The SMG is my sidearm of choice, as it is for a lot of mercs. No revelation there. I use it all the time when I not shiite fitting. The Breach SMG is my favorite variation since changes were made to sidearms back in 1.9? Can't remember. I used the Assault SMG prior to that. I love the Black Eagle scout and am glad CCP provides them sometimes as daily mission rewards. I have sported them on the warbarge in FW. That all black is sick! And if you run scout, and specifically proto Gal scout as I do, the free Black Eagle is sweet. I have screwed up a SG kill versus another strafing scout before and the sidearms come out and the dance begins. But mine is a maxed out AR! RIP wannabe. And all while looking like I'm dressed in formal attire. maxed out AR and SMG for me also , love the combo. I was gonna try to pick a new main weapon, but fell back onto my AR. Loving the breach lately, handles much better than when I remember trying it almost 2 years ago
Yep, the shield damage bias/armor damage bias works well in concert with each other. Racial purists will complain but the synergy is indisputable.
And the breach SMG hits hard for a sidearm, sounds cool when firing, and the lower ROF allows you to engage a second target if need be without reloading.
"Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
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Ralden Caster
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
173
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Posted - 2015.04.08 00:36:00 -
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Just imagine replacing the shotgun with a plasma cannon...
My pants are on fire.
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Mejt0
Dead Man's Game RUST415
1212
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Posted - 2015.04.08 01:09:00 -
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Gallente suit made of bad quality rubber. Just laugh at it and walk away.
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
3317
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Posted - 2015.04.08 01:10:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:Gallente suit made of bad quality rubber. Just laugh at it and walk away. Better than plastic stormtrooper armor
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SoTa PoP
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
6403
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Posted - 2015.04.08 01:11:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:Mejt0 wrote:Gallente suit made of bad quality rubber. Just laugh at it and walk away. Better than plastic stormtrooper armor All your suits are inferior to Amarr.
For the Empress! With Popped Collars!
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Banjo Robertson
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
511
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Posted - 2015.04.08 02:01:00 -
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Black Eagle scout was created way back when things were different, it was an ok fitting back then, but now its kinda lost its charm, to me at least. I think it should have its slot layout and cpu/pg re-worked |
Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
6982
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Posted - 2015.04.08 02:06:00 -
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Banjo Robertson wrote:Black Eagle scout was created way back when things were different, it was an ok fitting back then, but now its kinda lost its charm, to me at least. I think it should have its slot layout and cpu/pg re-worked What do you mean slot layout? It only has a single high slot... |
Banjo Robertson
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
513
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Posted - 2015.04.08 12:00:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Banjo Robertson wrote:Black Eagle scout was created way back when things were different, it was an ok fitting back then, but now its kinda lost its charm, to me at least. I think it should have its slot layout and cpu/pg re-worked What do you mean slot layout? It only has a single high slot...
Black Eagle is a different version of G/1 scout suit. Compared to what the G/1 has today it gives up 2 equipment slots, 1 high slot, and 3 low slots (if memory serves) for a sidearm assault rifle and maybe some slightly better base stats.
But it was added to the game back when the assault rifle was the only rifle, and the only two sidearms in the game were scrambler pistol and smg, heck I think this was even when the only scout suit was the gallente scout, so the high/low slots were slightly different than what they are now, and there was only one equipment slot back then too.
Commando suits weren't even out back then. Also remember SMG, AR, and Scrambler Pistols all had different stats back then too, I dont recall if they were more powerful or less powerful than now but they were different.
With this context in mind, here is how we can compare it to back then vs now.
Back in the day "Hmm, the Assault rifle is the only rifle in the game, and wow! This is the only suit in the game that has the assault rifle as a sidearm and allows you to use either a shotgun or switch the shotgun out for another light weapon. Having an AR in my sidearm is much better than having a scrambler pistol or SMG. Nobody will probably see me with scans so I don't mind no low slots. This is cool."
And now "Hmmm, well this does let you use an AR as a sidearm, but there are other rifles out now too and the AR isnt that great any more, its too bad I can't have one of them as a sidearm. But now there are commando suits and some officer suits that let you use two light weapons at once instead of being limited to a sidearm AR, and now there are much more sidearm weapons available to choose from so maybe I don't need an AR as a sidearm in my scout suit. I will likely be picked up on scans by many people as well so I won't be as invisible as I used to be, plus active scanners can be used to detect me. Only one high slot doesnt allow for much customization either compared to the different base stats of this suit vs the G/1."
So in a long round about way, this suit is less special than it used to be. And either its base stats could use some re-working to make it fit better as a unique suit or its High/Low slots compared to the G/1 need to be re-worked and CPU/PG re-worked in order to make it a little more customizable. |
Anaksha Venom
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.04.08 13:24:00 -
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The site looks cool but I just want some more of the black eagle ar's |
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