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Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
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Posted - 2015.04.07 19:41:00 -
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This weapon needs more range. Currently, with ewar, it's harder for a scout to get closer to an enemy, which is good, but range is an issue that makes scouts extremely vulnerable now. Before,(like 1.8 and1.9) it wasn't really an issue and shotty scouts were VERY GOOD. Now, they are easy to kill.
GIVE THE SHOTGUN a range buff.
1. This will help scouts, giving them a better change to kill their prey (I see an extremely less amount of shotgun kills, it's harder myself as well. It's like everyone is so AWARE , scouts have a harder time sneaking up now. Either they can fit all profile dampeners, and get killed by one shot, or they can tank, and be spotted and killed way before they are near their target)
2. This will make the shotgun a better weapon for other dropsuits. Currently, it's only effective in scouts as they are the only ones to get close enough. Giving it more range will make it a more viable weapon and will be useful for assaults, provinding a new CQC experience.
I believe that it's 3 meters I think the range is. On a galscout it's like 4.
Buff it to 5-6 m and 6-6.5 on the galscout.
Problem solved.
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Alena Ventrallis
Ahrendee Inc.
Negative-Feedback
2966
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Posted - 2015.04.07 19:43:00 -
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Because shotguns need a bigger presence in PC and pub stomping.
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Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
7877
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Posted - 2015.04.07 19:52:00 -
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This is like saying the pre-echo HMG needed a significant damage buff.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
8616
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Posted - 2015.04.07 20:00:00 -
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Once Assault mobility more appropriately reflects HP levels, then we can discuss whether or not to extend shotgun range. It likely won't be necessary. If we buff the Shotgun now, it'll be OP against the less-mobile Assaults of tomorrow.
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
5714
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Posted - 2015.04.07 20:20:00 -
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Now if you said give the BREACH shotgun a better range, I would actually agree with you.
Would love to use the Breach more often on my Commando (Because that reload speed bonus is awesome for the breach) but the gun just doesn't have the reach to make up for the lower speed.
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abdullah muzaffar
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
534
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Posted - 2015.04.07 20:37:00 -
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Wut? I regularly get killed from 9m away...
I would actually prefer if it had its clipsize reduced.
The breach needs a buff though.
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Kinyuhk Goluhh
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.04.07 21:02:00 -
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Sure, give it more range. I use it on half my Commando Heavy loadouts and it works great for insta-killing scouts and most meds who come close. I actually got hate mail for the first time because apparently getting killed before you have a chance to even react pisses people off. It also 2-hit kills most Heavy's, I know myself because I get 2-shotted in ADV Heavy Gear. Who knew?
4/1/2015 at 3:05pm history was made. CCP Rattati announced the new matchmaking system.
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Cypher Nil
Fireteam Tempest
193
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Posted - 2015.04.07 22:22:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:This weapon needs more range. Currently, with ewar, it's harder for a scout to get closer to an enemy, which is good, but range is an issue that makes scouts extremely vulnerable now. Before,(like 1.8 and1.9) it wasn't really an issue and shotty scouts were VERY GOOD. Now, they are easy to kill.
GIVE THE SHOTGUN a range buff.
1. This will help scouts, giving them a better change to kill their prey (I see an extremely less amount of shotgun kills, it's harder myself as well. It's like everyone is so AWARE , scouts have a harder time sneaking up now. Either they can fit all profile dampeners, and get killed by one shot, or they can tank, and be spotted and killed way before they are near their target)
2. This will make the shotgun a better weapon for other dropsuits. Currently, it's only effective in scouts as they are the only ones to get close enough. Giving it more range will make it a more viable weapon and will be useful for assaults, provinding a new CQC experience.
I believe that it's 3 meters I think the range is. On a galscout it's like 4.
Buff it to 5-6 m and 6-6.5 on the galscout.
Problem solved.
I use the shotgun and NO
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Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H
205
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Posted - 2015.04.08 00:01:00 -
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This will bring it back to Scout 514:rise of the shotgun so no. You say it will be viable for med suits as well? Nah, people will dust out their scouts,put the shot gun on and proceed to snipe with it. Sure EWAR is crap now but don't go buffing a weapon that's OP in the right hands. Thing will be broken
Scr nerf approaches.We shall see who truly knows how to wield God's wrath and heathens who wish to mimic the Amarr......
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
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Posted - 2015.04.08 00:35:00 -
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I'd like to see the shotgun significantly altered. Smaller clustering, less alpha damage, more sustained damage and longer range. I don't want it to be the "HAHA SURPRISE 3 SHOTS INTO YOUR BACK IN 1.5 SECONDS EAT 1500 DAMAGE NOOB" weapon it currently is, because the only suits that are actually capable of making good use of it are scouts with their combination of speed and stealth.
I'd love to see it be an 'enclosed quarters' weapon for assaults, scouts, and commandos on maps with inside sockets being able to rack shots into people at ~20m for decent damage. In fact if I had to compare it with anything I'd say it should be more like the LB10X-AC of MW:0
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
9207
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Posted - 2015.04.08 02:35:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:I'd like to see the shotgun significantly altered. Smaller clustering, less alpha damage, more sustained damage and longer range. I don't want it to be the "HAHA SURPRISE 3 SHOTS INTO YOUR BACK IN 1.5 SECONDS EAT 1500 DAMAGE NOOB" weapon it currently is, because the only suits that are actually capable of making good use of it are scouts with their combination of speed and stealth. I'd love to see it be an 'enclosed quarters' weapon for assaults, scouts, and commandos on maps with inside sockets being able to rack shots into people at ~20m for decent damage. In fact if I had to compare it with anything I'd say it should be more like the LB10X-AC of MW:0
Yeah, its not like Assaults just got a buff, and can run around at Scouts speeds with near Scout Scan Profile, and 2 or 3 times the HP.
Lets keep nerfing scouts by nerfing Alpha damage weapons that they can use to overcome there HP disadvantages since EWAR is no longer an option.
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Kinyuhk Goluhh
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
26
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Posted - 2015.04.08 03:22:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Lets keep nerfing scouts by nerfing Alpha damage weapons that they can use to overcome there HP disadvantages
Good idea, scouts don't risk nearly as much as Med's and Heavy's yet they're assassinating them with these OP weapons:
1: Shotgun
2: Nova Knives
I mean, seriously? wtf are those knives made out of that they can 2-hit kill everything? One slice is capable of destroying your shield(stupid) then the other takes your life. Not like I'm wearing extremely powerful armor or anything, just cut right on through it.
4/1/2015 at 3:05pm history was made. CCP Rattati announced the new matchmaking system.
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DJINN Jecture
MANUFACTURERS OF DEATH
319
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Posted - 2015.04.08 03:42:00 -
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Shotguns seem like they are in a good place right now maybe CCP needs more numbers to better judge their effectiveness, this is up to everyone with shotguns, everyone run em all the time for the next month, FOTM ftw on getting those numbers needed!
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Vesta Opalus
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
588
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Posted - 2015.04.08 04:36:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:This weapon needs more range. Currently, with ewar, it's harder for a scout to get closer to an enemy, which is good, but range is an issue that makes scouts extremely vulnerable now. Before,(like 1.8 and1.9) it wasn't really an issue and shotty scouts were VERY GOOD. Now, they are easy to kill.
GIVE THE SHOTGUN a range buff.
1. This will help scouts, giving them a better change to kill their prey (I see an extremely less amount of shotgun kills, it's harder myself as well. It's like everyone is so AWARE , scouts have a harder time sneaking up now. Either they can fit all profile dampeners, and get killed by one shot, or they can tank, and be spotted and killed way before they are near their target)
2. This will make the shotgun a better weapon for other dropsuits. Currently, it's only effective in scouts as they are the only ones to get close enough. Giving it more range will make it a more viable weapon and will be useful for assaults, provinding a new CQC experience.
I believe that it's 3 meters I think the range is. On a galscout it's like 4.
Buff it to 5-6 m and 6-6.5 on the galscout.
Problem solved.
Just wait for the caldari version of the shotgun ;d |
Text Grant
PIanet Express
Smart Deploy
407
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Posted - 2015.04.08 14:03:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:This weapon needs more range. Currently, with ewar, it's harder for a scout to get closer to an enemy, which is good, but range is an issue that makes scouts extremely vulnerable now. Before,(like 1.8 and1.9) it wasn't really an issue and shotty scouts were VERY GOOD. Now, they are easy to kill.
GIVE THE SHOTGUN a range buff.
1. This will help scouts, giving them a better change to kill their prey (I see an extremely less amount of shotgun kills, it's harder myself as well. It's like everyone is so AWARE , scouts have a harder time sneaking up now. Either they can fit all profile dampeners, and get killed by one shot, or they can tank, and be spotted and killed way before they are near their target)
2. This will make the shotgun a better weapon for other dropsuits. Currently, it's only effective in scouts as they are the only ones to get close enough. Giving it more range will make it a more viable weapon and will be useful for assaults, provinding a new CQC experience.
I believe that it's 3 meters I think the range is. On a galscout it's like 4.
Buff it to 5-6 m and 6-6.5 on the galscout.
Problem solved.
Scouts are fine as it is. This weapon is regularly used on min assaults as well. This weapon is also common in PCs. It doesn't need buffed. |
VALCORE72
Vengeance Unbound
RUST415
273
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Posted - 2015.04.08 16:34:00 -
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lol more range lol go back to cod ..
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Hitman Turrentine
EVE'S Best
0
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Posted - 2015.04.08 17:57:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:This weapon needs more range. Currently, with ewar, it's harder for a scout to get closer to an enemy, which is good, but range is an issue that makes scouts extremely vulnerable now. Before,(like 1.8 and1.9) it wasn't really an issue and shotty scouts were VERY GOOD. Now, they are easy to kill.
GIVE THE SHOTGUN a range buff.
1. This will help scouts, giving them a better change to kill their prey (I see an extremely less amount of shotgun kills, it's harder myself as well. It's like everyone is so AWARE , scouts have a harder time sneaking up now. Either they can fit all profile dampeners, and get killed by one shot, or they can tank, and be spotted and killed way before they are near their target)
2. This will make the shotgun a better weapon for other dropsuits. Currently, it's only effective in scouts as they are the only ones to get close enough. Giving it more range will make it a more viable weapon and will be useful for assaults, provinding a new CQC experience.
I believe that it's 3 meters I think the range is. On a galscout it's like 4.
Buff it to 5-6 m and 6-6.5 on the galscout.
Problem solved.
I'm a shotgun scout & your right about it all. The respect that a shotgun scout had is gone now! With most players running in packs it's just not fair now because of the nerfing of the scout. Please fix this CCP. |
Vesta Opalus
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
589
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Posted - 2015.04.08 17:58:00 -
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Hitman Turrentine wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:This weapon needs more range. Currently, with ewar, it's harder for a scout to get closer to an enemy, which is good, but range is an issue that makes scouts extremely vulnerable now. Before,(like 1.8 and1.9) it wasn't really an issue and shotty scouts were VERY GOOD. Now, they are easy to kill.
GIVE THE SHOTGUN a range buff.
1. This will help scouts, giving them a better change to kill their prey (I see an extremely less amount of shotgun kills, it's harder myself as well. It's like everyone is so AWARE , scouts have a harder time sneaking up now. Either they can fit all profile dampeners, and get killed by one shot, or they can tank, and be spotted and killed way before they are near their target)
2. This will make the shotgun a better weapon for other dropsuits. Currently, it's only effective in scouts as they are the only ones to get close enough. Giving it more range will make it a more viable weapon and will be useful for assaults, provinding a new CQC experience.
I believe that it's 3 meters I think the range is. On a galscout it's like 4.
Buff it to 5-6 m and 6-6.5 on the galscout.
Problem solved. I'm a shotgun scout & your right about it all. The respect that a shotgun scout had is gone now! With most players running in packs it's just not fair now because of the nerfing of the scout. Please fix this CCP.
Shotgun scouts never got respect, unless you are talking about pre-cloaking device scouts. |
CLONE117
True Pros Forever
906
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Posted - 2015.04.08 21:04:00 -
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10 meters for blap range is what im thinking.
15-20 for effective range. 21+ meters gets little to no damage.
if only we could pilot the mcc.
id end the matches real quick.
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Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H
207
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Posted - 2015.04.08 21:09:00 -
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Hitman Turrentine wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:This weapon needs more range. Currently, with ewar, it's harder for a scout to get closer to an enemy, which is good, but range is an issue that makes scouts extremely vulnerable now. Before,(like 1.8 and1.9) it wasn't really an issue and shotty scouts were VERY GOOD. Now, they are easy to kill.
GIVE THE SHOTGUN a range buff.
1. This will help scouts, giving them a better change to kill their prey (I see an extremely less amount of shotgun kills, it's harder myself as well. It's like everyone is so AWARE , scouts have a harder time sneaking up now. Either they can fit all profile dampeners, and get killed by one shot, or they can tank, and be spotted and killed way before they are near their target)
2. This will make the shotgun a better weapon for other dropsuits. Currently, it's only effective in scouts as they are the only ones to get close enough. Giving it more range will make it a more viable weapon and will be useful for assaults, provinding a new CQC experience.
I believe that it's 3 meters I think the range is. On a galscout it's like 4.
Buff it to 5-6 m and 6-6.5 on the galscout.
Problem solved. I'm a shotgun scout & your right about it all. The respect that a shotgun scout had is gone now! With most players running in packs it's just not fair now because of the nerfing of the scout. Please fix this CCP.
Probably because most if not all shotgun scouts shoot people from behind and never engage them in a frontal battle. Cloaking,sneaking up behind someone and killing them in one or two shots is never hard so doing this won't really earn you much if any respect
Scr nerf approaches.We shall see who truly knows how to wield God's wrath and heathens who wish to mimic the Amarr......
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Hitman Turrentine
EVE'S Best
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Posted - 2015.04.09 00:49:00 -
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Georgia Xavier wrote:Hitman Turrentine wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:This weapon needs more range. Currently, with ewar, it's harder for a scout to get closer to an enemy, which is good, but range is an issue that makes scouts extremely vulnerable now. Before,(like 1.8 and1.9) it wasn't really an issue and shotty scouts were VERY GOOD. Now, they are easy to kill.
GIVE THE SHOTGUN a range buff.
1. This will help scouts, giving them a better change to kill their prey (I see an extremely less amount of shotgun kills, it's harder myself as well. It's like everyone is so AWARE , scouts have a harder time sneaking up now. Either they can fit all profile dampeners, and get killed by one shot, or they can tank, and be spotted and killed way before they are near their target)
2. This will make the shotgun a better weapon for other dropsuits. Currently, it's only effective in scouts as they are the only ones to get close enough. Giving it more range will make it a more viable weapon and will be useful for assaults, provinding a new CQC experience.
I believe that it's 3 meters I think the range is. On a galscout it's like 4.
Buff it to 5-6 m and 6-6.5 on the galscout.
Problem solved. I'm a shotgun scout & your right about it all. The respect that a shotgun scout had is gone now! With most players running in packs it's just not fair now because of the nerfing of the scout. Please fix this CCP. Probably because most if not all shotgun scouts shoot people from behind and never engage them in a frontal battle. Cloaking,sneaking up behind someone and killing them in one or two shots is never hard so doing this won't really earn you much if any respect
Like shooting a scout from long range don't get you no respect!!!
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Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H
220
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Posted - 2015.04.09 00:56:00 -
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Hitman Turrentine wrote:Georgia Xavier wrote:Hitman Turrentine wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:This weapon needs more range. Currently, with ewar, it's harder for a scout to get closer to an enemy, which is good, but range is an issue that makes scouts extremely vulnerable now. Before,(like 1.8 and1.9) it wasn't really an issue and shotty scouts were VERY GOOD. Now, they are easy to kill.
GIVE THE SHOTGUN a range buff.
1. This will help scouts, giving them a better change to kill their prey (I see an extremely less amount of shotgun kills, it's harder myself as well. It's like everyone is so AWARE , scouts have a harder time sneaking up now. Either they can fit all profile dampeners, and get killed by one shot, or they can tank, and be spotted and killed way before they are near their target)
2. This will make the shotgun a better weapon for other dropsuits. Currently, it's only effective in scouts as they are the only ones to get close enough. Giving it more range will make it a more viable weapon and will be useful for assaults, provinding a new CQC experience.
I believe that it's 3 meters I think the range is. On a galscout it's like 4.
Buff it to 5-6 m and 6-6.5 on the galscout.
Problem solved. I'm a shotgun scout & your right about it all. The respect that a shotgun scout had is gone now! With most players running in packs it's just not fair now because of the nerfing of the scout. Please fix this CCP. Probably because most if not all shotgun scouts shoot people from behind and never engage them in a frontal battle. Cloaking,sneaking up behind someone and killing them in one or two shots is never hard so doing this won't really earn you much if any respect Like shooting a scout from long range don't get you no respect!!!
Scout has a chance to dodge, you can't even react fast enough before the second shot hits. Way I see it shotgun scouts are still easy mode, try harder
Scr nerf approaches.We shall see who truly knows how to wield God's wrath and heathens who wish to mimic the Amarr......
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
8651
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Posted - 2015.04.09 01:04:00 -
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Georgia Xavier wrote:Way I see it shotgun scouts are still easy mode, try harder
And Assault are hardmode. This is explains why Scout usage has skyrocketed over the past couple months and Assault usage is in freefall. See Historical Data. 
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H
220
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Posted - 2015.04.09 01:10:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Georgia Xavier wrote:Way I see it shotgun scouts are still easy mode, try harder And Assault are hardmode. This is explains why Scout usage has skyrocketed over the past couple months and Assault usage is in freefall. See Historical Data.
Shotgun scouts man,without a cloak or a shotgun,scouts are hardmode.
Tryhardinator seems accurate
Scr nerf approaches.We shall see who truly knows how to wield God's wrath and heathens who wish to mimic the Amarr......
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