For instance, at one time, the heavies were being killed by Douvolle TAC AR's. The complaining was huge and CCP nerfed the TAC ARs. Now the TAC ARs are worthless (and expensive for noobs to find out they are of no use)

How about we just stop spending any time on Team-Deathmatch modes?

They're pointless and boring to begin with.

Now LAVs are almost worthless and have been eliminated from Ambush all together.

Vehicles being gone from bush is cool.

I think they should remove scans from bush next.

I'll tell you something.

90% of ambush 'slayers' have struggles to destroy a LAV. That's why you have infantry only ambush.

LAVs were never used for anything more than cheap transport anyway, so this isn't new.

When was the last time you saw a LAV gunner get a kill?

In fact, when was the last time you even saw a driver-gunner combo attempting to use an LAV to get an advantage??

I would like to suggest that just because you get overwhelmed by a specific technology, in a match or group of matches, DOES NOT MEAN that this technology should be removed from the mode. It means that players have to adapt. It does not mean imbalance, it means change of view point, change of tactics.

For instance, at one time, the heavies were being killed by Douvolle TAC AR's. The complaining was huge and CCP nerfed the TAC ARs. Now the TAC ARs are worthless (and expensive for noobs to find out they are of no use).

Then, players began spamming tanks and were over running infantry, but then drop ship pilots figured out the tactic of how to stack ROF and began thinning out tanks so that infantry had a chance, but then tankers complained and now drop ships are almost worthless. The tankers could have learned (and some did) how to ditch and hide from drop ships.

Some heavies figured out that they could zoom up in an LAV and commit an execution and zoom on to another location. I hated it, but I started getting AV grenades for defense. But due to whiners, instead of changing tactics, now LAVs are almost worthless and have been eliminated from Ambush all together.

I believe the absence of vehicles in Ambush has made it just plain boring.

Why take out every vehicle from Ambush? You made the LAV weak, isn't that enough?
Vehicles add so much to the surprise factor that keeps the game entertaining. Enemies can arrive on the opposite side of the field rather quickly, and sometimes they are like the cavalry coming to the aid of team mates who are pinned down.

The 'two vehicle per team' limit was already an extreme action, but then the complete elimination of vehicles from Ambush has made it the most boring mode to play (IMHO).

I would like to suggest that you put LAVs back into Ambush. If you don't like tankers, and drop ships, so be it, but don't take away all forms of transportation from Ambush.

I strongly suggest that you could have unlimited LAVs in Ambush and it would not create an imbalance. In fact, now that you made LAVs weak and worthless, the AV guys would have a party in Ambush with the guys that drop LAVs. But at least vehicle activity could continue in somewhat open use. The LAV droppers won't know when they will face heavy AV opposition, but at least there is hope for the guy that has to walk his butt from across the map to where the action is.

LAVs were never used for anything more than cheap transport anyway, so this isn't new.

When was the last time you saw a LAV gunner get a kill?

In fact, when was the last time you even saw a driver-gunner combo attempting to use an LAV to get an advantage??

I say screw your idea and keep tanks out of ambush.


You get in a game against two proto tanks and your side decides it would be more efficient to call in a couple of LAV's.

The fact is there should be mode without vehicles. Now if I could choose to go into an OMS or a regular ambush, I might agree with you, so I could have the choice of getting rhaped by a tank or not.

You and the four other guys can play by yourselves in a 80 clone ambush with tanks, while the rest of us spam those 50 clones matches, I'm all for that ~(._.~)

Its a team based clone count killing mode. when you play a tank in any other mode you don't auto win the game because a tank can't capture a point. it influences the battle in a large way and the enemy team adapt by switching out to AV

In ambush it DOES win you the game because you take a large lead over the enemy team, it also takes FAR TOO LONG to adapt to the tank and switch out to AV, once the tank has given your team a 10-15 kill lead AND control of space on the battlefield the damage is done. there is NO WAY to come back from that.

So no, we dont want tanks back in ambush, it doesn't fit the spirit of the mode. now go play another mode if you enjoy tanks so much.

Really?
Before nerfs LAV + small rail combo was great.
I can point out [myself included] players that could easily go 25+ kills using a LAV.

TacAR is the best AR... So I severely doubt your opinion on other things.

Tac AR is bad is it? I fear that thing! That, scrambler charged shots, bolt pistols.... they all mess up my speedy fits with low tank. Then there is splash damage.... oh god.

Guys stick to using shooty shooty machinegun sticks and shooty-shooty-shooty barrels. Please?

I think he's just trying to get peeps to stop using the Tac AR.

Stopped tanking you seriously when you said (m)TAC was useless...

(t)roll harder next time.