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Sgt Kirk
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Posted - 2015.04.06 16:20:00 -
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What would you guys think about the idea for having some Small Turrets as Heavy weapons? They wouldn't perform in the same exact way because it's being held by a footsoldier but in general it's the same weapon re-purposed for infantry use.
Imagine a small blaster Turret for Gallente Heavies. It would overheat at a much higher rate and be most inaccurate past 30 meters with constant firing but under that you'd wreck with profound DPS IF you can discipline yourself with managing overheat. It wouldn't have nearly as much ammo as the vehicle mounted one but still great for general infantry use.
Imagine a Caldari Heavy with a shoulder mountain Small Rail Turret similarly to how the Heavy Frame Carries a Plasma Cannon.
The functionality difference between the Small Rail to infantry small rail would be that the Fire Rate is much,much slower because the heavy as to compensate for the huge amount of recoil that comes with the small Rail. It's not as accurate firing in consecutive shots as you'd imagine and the mag size is not as big as the vehicle variant.
So what do you guys think?
We'd get more Heavy weapons and a Shield heavy weapon out of this idea, plu we already have the assets for them mostly.
It's a great opportunity to add diversity and individuality to this game
As long as 5/6 (83%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP
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Sgt Kirk
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Posted - 2015.04.06 16:38:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:I think you support ISIS. In all seriousness, it'd be pretty cool - I might actually spec into Sentinels if they had a Gallente weapon (small blaster) but that would also require small blasters to be worth a damn as they currently aren't. Though, I kind of fear that this would take incentive out of actually making LAVs and such -good- if we just focused on balancing the weapon(s) in Sentinel hands... I'd really like to see the LAV become a real suppression platform instead of just a free kill to anyone who can aim. It's a good idea but I'm really mixed about it. Can you make a Pros/Cons T-Chart?
Well the Primary con of having the weapon that's meant to be for vehicles on infantry is that it wouldn't be as effective as it is mounted on a vehicle, plus. much, much less mobile but I will make a pros and cons list for each one.
For other people, notice I lefted out Small Missile Turrets for obvious reasons :P
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Sgt Kirk
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Posted - 2015.04.06 16:52:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:It's a good idea but I'm really mixed about it. Can you make a Pros/Cons T-Chart?
And done
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Sgt Kirk
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Posted - 2015.04.06 17:16:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote:As much as I want to see these implemented, I want an Amarr heavy weapon and the Gallente Heavy Weapon first. Granted you did propose a Gallente Heavy Weapon however I was looking forward to either a Mortar type weapon or a Plasma Flamethrower.
Oh, yeah. I still want that plasma Flamethrower. There's no doubt about that, it should definitely come out.
This is in addition to the Heavy Weapons that we should already be getting.
So you'd have the Small Blaster Heavy weapon and Plasma Mortar or thrower for Gallente.
Small Rail Heavy Weapon and Forge for Caldari
The Scrambler Lance for Amarr heavy weapons
and the Autocannon for Minmatar
The turret idea just takes the turrets and makes them usable on heavies.
Once Minmatar and Amarr get their turrets we could add those in as well.
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Sgt Kirk
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Posted - 2015.04.07 05:42:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:I'm not sure that it would work well, seeing as small blasters are basically upgraded PR's with a slight dispersion (if it's used in infantry range, it would be much more slight), and rails being upgraded RR's with heat. Both of them would just nuke infantry that they hit, but if they were adjusted in some way, like say less ammo and more heat due to being carried, I think it would then be more fair.
Also, MTAC's.
I literally said what you said already in the original post.
Dumping the Small Turrets into Heavy hands as is without changing them should be a fairly obvious bad idea to everyone.
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Posted - 2015.04.07 14:37:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Lady MDK wrote:Not saying this is a bad idea necessarily but I would rather see light or other heavy weapons properties and effects modified for heavy use......
AMAR - Gold forge gun firing lasers but slowing its users speed and rotation while firing.
GAL - plasma cannon that fires a similar shot to a forge but short range and also slows the user down somewhat. Slowing rotation speed while firing a laser actually helps more than it hinders. Keeping a laser beam on contact is harder than it seems
Much, much harder than it seems.
As long as 5/6 (83%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP
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