DUST Search - Why tanks should take melee damage

Sicerly Yaw wrote:

tanks and other structures and vehicles should take regular damage from regular weapons, I don't understand why they have damage penalties

If I can do close to 800 damage more or less with melee attacks then tanks should take that much damage from melee fits

most fits only do 80-150 excluding the commando so there shouldn't really be a problem there and most tanks rep way more armor and shield then that per second

now If I have a charge sniper rifle that can do say 1k-0.5k damage at full charge with damage mods and what not then the tank should also take that much damage, I dont see why weapons that are capable of high damage have to be nerfed against tanks

tanks complain about SL's because thats what most people use to take them out with I'm sure if regular weapons could take them out they would say its too OP as they have before

but once again tankers can rep trough most of the damage anyway they just don't want to have to deal with damage from multiple sources

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nelo kazuma Da Short Buss Driving School 61	Posted - 2015.04.04 13:05:00 - [1] - Quote If a tank is dumb enough to be that close to infantry I dont see why it shouldnt. Ive had tanks drive up to my face because they know they could tank through av I think this would honestly be fair and if ccp ever does release different melee weapons like the nova knives this would add fun and make tankers think twice befor getting close
Alena Ventrallis Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 2929	Posted - 2015.04.04 13:16:00 - [2] - Quote Do me a favor. Go punch a brick wall for me. Did it hurt? Did you damage the wall? Now imagine that wall is made with technology that's 12,000 years ahead of its time. That's why meleeing a tank is a silly idea. Nova knives are an exception since They use plasma as a cutting edge, something your fist is lacking in. Therefore, never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Alena Ventrallis Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 2929	Posted - 2015.04.04 13:21:00 - [3] - Quote double post Therefore, never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
DR DEESE NUTS 58	Posted - 2015.04.04 13:32:00 - [4] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: Do me a favor. Go punch a brick wall for me. Did it hurt? Did you damage the wall? Now imagine that wall is made with technology that's 12,000 years ahead of its time. That's why meleeing a tank is a silly idea. Nova knives are an exception since They use plasma as a cutting edge, something your fist is lacking in. My fists are also made 12000 years in the future. The USS m`dick
shaman oga Dead Man's Game 4303	Posted - 2015.04.04 13:46:00 - [5] - Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_ZeD40Rg8A Pimp my Barge
nelo kazuma Da Short Buss Driving School 61	Posted - 2015.04.04 13:59:00 - [6] - Quote shaman oga wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_ZeD40Rg8A That would be awesome lol
nelo kazuma Da Short Buss Driving School 61	Posted - 2015.04.04 14:01:00 - [7] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: Do me a favor. Go punch a brick wall for me. Did it hurt? Did you damage the wall? Now imagine that wall is made with technology that's 12,000 years ahead of its time. That's why meleeing a tank is a silly idea. Nova knives are an exception since They use plasma as a cutting edge, something your fist is lacking in. Your telling me with a suit made of advanced tech should have no physical boosting effects lol look at halo master chef can flip a tank. Hell even in this game you can flip jeeps your telling me the strength to do that is not enough to hurt tank at all
Forced Death Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 357	Posted - 2015.04.04 14:08:00 - [8] - Quote I just want to melee a maddie and have it show up on the kill board Death by laser is imminent
Vyzion Eyri WarRavens 2765	Posted - 2015.04.04 14:16:00 - [9] - Quote So we want tanks to do this. > Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 7836	Posted - 2015.04.04 14:22:00 - [10] - Quote This is something that should be exclusive to commandos. Why? Because RED MEANS STOP!!! AV
nelo kazuma Da Short Buss Driving School 61	Posted - 2015.04.04 14:49:00 - [11] - Quote Vyzion Eyri wrote: So we want tanks to do this. Lol would be funny but no . But come on some damage anything to make a tank think twice I dont see them nerfing hardeners so different types of av should be introduced. I mean a tank wandering into a city map thinking HA av thats cute. Theres more than enough wide open terrain for tanks but citys should be were infantry dominate people like myros and having to switch to av is hard especially if theres no supply depot nearby. Hell a buddy of mine wants plasma knuckles which would be badass
TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 1058	Posted - 2015.04.04 15:58:00 - [12] - Quote This brings an idea to mind... Maybe you could use Nova Knives to cut some of the tanks' piping and disable it's shields, immobilze it's turret, or even hit the fuel line to stop the tank from escaping. This should last for only a few seconds because nanites will repair the damage automatically. Found my favorite DJ - ATB
ROTFL Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 11	Posted - 2015.04.04 16:00:00 - [13] - Quote Hulk angry! We need a steroid module........
Cheydinhal Guard ScReWeD uP InC Smart Deploy 547	Posted - 2015.04.04 16:04:00 - [14] - Quote shaman oga wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_ZeD40Rg8A Ahhh the fabled Melee glitch. Those were the days. Be the mercenary of tomorrow, today. Go beyond with Aurum!
Thaddeus Reynolds Facepunch Security 258	Posted - 2015.04.04 16:29:00 - [15] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: This is something that should be exclusive to commandos. Why? Because RED MEANS STOP!!! I could go for that...Commandos With Powerfists! Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper. Vehicle Re-vamp Proposal
Alena Ventrallis Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 2933	Posted - 2015.04.04 18:08:00 - [16] - Quote nelo kazuma wrote: Alena Ventrallis wrote: Do me a favor. Go punch a brick wall for me. Did it hurt? Did you damage the wall? Now imagine that wall is made with technology that's 12,000 years ahead of its time. That's why meleeing a tank is a silly idea. Nova knives are an exception since They use plasma as a cutting edge, something your fist is lacking in. Your telling me with a suit made of advanced tech should have no physical boosting effects lol look at halo master chef can flip a tank. Hell even in this game you can flip jeeps your telling me the strength to do that is not enough to hurt tank at all Alena Ventrallis wrote: Do me a favor. Go punch a brick wall for me. Did it hurt? Did you damage the wall? Now imagine that wall is made with technology that's 12,000 years ahead of its time. That's why meleeing a tank is a silly idea. Nova knives are an exception since they use plasma as a cutting edge, something your fist is lacking in. Whirly gun make much thunder! - Victor
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game 1003	Posted - 2015.04.04 18:12:00 - [17] - Quote DR DEESE NUTS wrote: My fists are also made 12000 years in the future. Both fists and tanks are 12000 years ahead in tech... So against each other, they're in pretty much the same place they are now. This argument fails a bit. Couldn't personally care either way, I've stood on a tank to avoid getting shot by it before, spent a lot of time melee-ing it for the fun of it. Either way, I'm still going to be more worried about AV grenades than someones fist.
TIGER SHARK1501 Savage Bullet General Tso's Alliance 212	Posted - 2015.04.04 18:33:00 - [18] - Quote nelo kazuma wrote: If a tank is dumb enough to be that close to infantry I dont see why it shouldnt. Ive had tanks drive up to my face because they know they could tank through av I think this would honestly be fair and if ccp ever does release different melee weapons like the nova knives this would add fun and make tankers think twice befor getting close Ha, ha ha, ha ha ha ha! Go punch an armored vehicle and tell me how it goes.
Operative 1174 Uuali Y.A.M.A.H 576	Posted - 2015.04.04 18:48:00 - [19] - Quote nelo kazuma wrote: If a tank is dumb enough to be that close to infantry I dont see why it shouldnt. Ive had tanks drive up to my face because they know they could tank through av I think this would honestly be fair and if ccp ever does release different melee weapons like the nova knives this would add fun and make tankers think twice befor getting close So, I hate tankers therefore a stupid mechanic should be implemented to allow me to have the upper hand. Ok, that'll work, but I want tanks to be able to deal melee damage too. My turret reaching out and punching infantry would make them think twice about punching my tank. Death is a serious businessGÇª So is running a shoddy, half-baked game company.
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game 1003	Posted - 2015.04.04 19:05:00 - [20] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: allow me to have the upper hand. Pun intended? xD
Powerh8er Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 716	Posted - 2015.04.04 19:19:00 - [21] - Quote Seeing it from a realistic and logical perspective, if an infantry man is stupid enough to be close to an enemy tank, he would probably get his stupid ass run over as an entertaining way to conserve ammo for the tank crew. Have you got anymore exploding carrots?
Sicerly Yaw Quantum times 54	Posted - 2015.04.04 19:23:00 - [22] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: nelo kazuma wrote: If a tank is dumb enough to be that close to infantry I dont see why it shouldnt. Ive had tanks drive up to my face because they know they could tank through av I think this would honestly be fair and if ccp ever does release different melee weapons like the nova knives this would add fun and make tankers think twice befor getting close So, I hate tankers therefore a stupid mechanic should be implemented to allow me to have the upper hand. Ok, that'll work, but I want tanks to be able to deal melee damage too. My turret reaching out and punching infantry would make them think twice about punching my tank. tanks and other structures and vehicles should take regular damage from regular weapons, I don't understand why they have damage penalties If I can do close to 800 damage more or less with melee attacks then tanks should take that much damage from melee fits most fits only do 80-150 excluding the commando so there shouldn't really be a problem there and most tanks rep way more armor and shield then that per second now If I have a charge sniper rifle that can do say 1k-0.5k damage at full charge with damage mods and what not then the tank should also take that much damage, I dont see why weapons that are capable of high damage have to be nerfed against tanks tanks complain about SL's because thats what most people use to take them out with I'm sure if regular weapons could take them out they would say its too OP as they have before but once again tankers can rep trough most of the damage anyway they just don't want to have to deal with damage from multiple sources
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 3748	Posted - 2015.04.04 19:30:00 - [23] - Quote nelo kazuma wrote: If a tank is dumb enough to be that close to infantry I dont see why it shouldnt. Ive had tanks drive up to my face because they know they could tank through av I think this would honestly be fair and if ccp ever does release different melee weapons like the nova knives this would add fun and make tankers think twice befor getting close HAVs do take melee damage, it's just 90% reduced just like all other non-AV, and completely eaten in a second by passive regens. "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 3748	Posted - 2015.04.04 19:32:00 - [24] - Quote Sicerly Yaw wrote: tanks and other structures and vehicles should take regular damage from regular weapons, I don't understand why they have damage penalties If I can do close to 800 damage more or less with melee attacks then tanks should take that much damage from melee fits most fits only do 80-150 excluding the commando so there shouldn't really be a problem there and most tanks rep way more armor and shield then that per second now If I have a charge sniper rifle that can do say 1k-0.5k damage at full charge with damage mods and what not then the tank should also take that much damage, I dont see why weapons that are capable of high damage have to be nerfed against tanks tanks complain about SL's because thats what most people use to take them out with I'm sure if regular weapons could take them out they would say its too OP as they have before but once again tankers can rep trough most of the damage anyway they just don't want to have to deal with damage from multiple sources No FPS I can think of operates like this, what FPS lets you kill a tank solo with an assault rifle? EDIT: And without taking five consecutive minutes to do so. "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
Kuruld Sengar G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance 283	Posted - 2015.04.04 19:33:00 - [25] - Quote Derpty Derp wrote: DR DEESE NUTS wrote: My fists are also made 12000 years in the future. Both fists and tanks are 12000 years ahead in tech... So against each other, they're in pretty much the same place they are now. This argument fails a bit. Couldn't personally care either way, I've stood on a tank to avoid getting shot by it before, spent a lot of time melee-ing it for the fun of it. Either way, I'm still going to be more worried about AV grenades than someones fist. Sure, they are both ahead in tech. But if you look at the size difference i your fist versus the 120mm plating on the tank... 120mm is 4 inches thick btw for those that use imperial. Can a fist or hammer or baseball bat damage a tank in our time?
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H 194	Posted - 2015.04.04 22:06:00 - [26] - Quote DR DEESE NUTS wrote: Alena Ventrallis wrote: Do me a favor. Go punch a brick wall for me. Did it hurt? Did you damage the wall? Now imagine that wall is made with technology that's 12,000 years ahead of its time. That's why meleeing a tank is a silly idea. Nova knives are an exception since They use plasma as a cutting edge, something your fist is lacking in. My fists are also made 12000 years in the future. Think about it like this, your fist and the metaphorical wall evolve for 12,000 years TOGETHER.so your fists is advanced and all high tech now but so is that wall so it cancels out. Simply put it's like 10 divided 2 became 100 divided by 20. A lot change but it's still the same result Scr nerf approaches.We shall see who truly knows how to wield God's wrath and heathens who wish to mimic the Amarr......
Bremen van Equis Incorruptibles 302	Posted - 2015.04.04 22:11:00 - [27] - Quote shaman oga wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_ZeD40Rg8A GÇªand then he hacked the driverGÇª +1 Buckle up, boysGÇªthis ramp leads to space. -Axe Cop
Peter Hanther Kottentale Solutions 87	Posted - 2015.04.04 22:12:00 - [28] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: Do me a favor. Go punch a brick wall for me. Did it hurt? Did you damage the wall? Now imagine that wall is made with technology that's 12,000 years ahead of its time. That's why meleeing a tank is a silly idea. Nova knives are an exception since They use plasma as a cutting edge, something your fist is lacking in. Am I allowed to wear a robotic exosuit with catalyzers while punching it? How can Kottentale Solutions help you?
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17952	Posted - 2015.04.05 04:40:00 - [29] - Quote Peter Hanther wrote: Alena Ventrallis wrote: Do me a favor. Go punch a brick wall for me. Did it hurt? Did you damage the wall? Now imagine that wall is made with technology that's 12,000 years ahead of its time. That's why meleeing a tank is a silly idea. Nova knives are an exception since They use plasma as a cutting edge, something your fist is lacking in. Am I allowed to wear a robotic exosuit with catalyzers while punching it? You can try but even then I don't think you could attempt to punch through and inflict meaningful damage on reinforced rolled homogenous armour comprised of two layers of crystallised carbonide with additional 120mm thick armour plates and the capability to harden on impact and resist the kinetic forces of Railguns. So I don't really know what to say here other than... "No, no you cannot with your puny biologically enhanced fist take a chunk of an armoured fighting vehicle." GÇ£That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die.GÇ¥ -The Nameless City
DUST Fiend 16239	Posted - 2015.04.05 04:43:00 - [30] - Quote Posting in a thread that is seriously asking to melee tanks I've been here too long. Contests, Sales, Writing etc Fly Safe
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 1222	Posted - 2015.04.05 04:48:00 - [31] - Quote DR DEESE NUTS wrote: Alena Ventrallis wrote: Do me a favor. Go punch a brick wall for me. Did it hurt? Did you damage the wall? Now imagine that wall is made with technology that's 12,000 years ahead of its time. That's why meleeing a tank is a silly idea. Nova knives are an exception since They use plasma as a cutting edge, something your fist is lacking in. My fists are also made 12000 years in the future. From a liquid substance made in a portable cloning vat for fast turnover. Not durability. That's what the suits are for. http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU Dust to Dust Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 3234	Posted - 2015.04.05 05:13:00 - [32] - Quote shaman oga wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_ZeD40Rg8A So much loooool Plasma Cannon :3 Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
Nevyn Tazinas Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 66	Posted - 2015.04.05 05:46:00 - [33] - Quote I'd settle for some weak spots that only work when within 10m, to simulate weak spots like hydraulics etc. That bring weapons up to at least 50% efficiency. Nova knives then get to have that anywhere, while other weapons can take apart a tanker dumb enough to sit still and let them aim properly.
baamar ramaab Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 0	Posted - 2015.04.05 06:04:00 - [34] - Quote shaman oga wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_ZeD40Rg8A LMAO!!! "TATATATATATATATATATA"
Union118 Dem Durrty Boyz General Tso's Alliance 537	Posted - 2015.04.05 06:18:00 - [35] - Quote Punches tank with my fist. "Crack!" Owwwwww Why would you do thaaat? Who would think to punch a tank. How stupid do you have to be. Its reinforced steel plating will block a 50 caliber and the best ones can stop up to 2 bazookas. So unless your the terminator or captain falcon you shouldnt think about punching a tank. Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)

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