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emm kay
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Posted - 2015.04.04 03:03:00 -
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Increase the ISK cost of all proto items by 50%.
It would rip a new one in player's wallets.
There is a reason you never see me in battle.
it's because I see you first.
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Alena Ventrallis
Ahrendee Inc.
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Posted - 2015.04.04 03:04:00 -
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Guessing you're new here.
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DR DEESE NUTS
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Posted - 2015.04.04 03:06:00 -
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Increasing it by 200% still won't put a dent in most wallets.
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emm kay
Direct Action Resources
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Posted - 2015.04.04 03:07:00 -
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true. there is a huge cliff between the rich players and the other players.
There is a reason you never see me in battle.
it's because I see you first.
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Godin Thekiller
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Posted - 2015.04.04 04:02:00 -
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lol, you clearly don't understand how bad of a idea that is, especially when that has been tried, and failed.
RULE 1: NEVER BALANCE ON ISK.
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XxBlazikenxX
Y.A.M.A.H
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Posted - 2015.04.04 05:10:00 -
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There is only one solution to protostomping......
be a protostomper, be patient while you obtain skill, as in actual skill and skill points.
The people at the top are at the top because they worked their way up.
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Nevyn Tazinas
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.04.04 05:25:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:There is only one solution to protostomping......
be a protostomper, be patient while you obtain skill, as in actual skill and skill points.
The people at the top are at the top because they worked their way up.
While there were no protostompers because everyone was new and while they got infinite funds from broken PC mechanics.....
That argument of 'they all worked up the same way' is not only stupid 'We all got bullied so you have to get bullied too', it's also utterly incorrect in this case. |
Zepod
Titans of Phoenix
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Posted - 2015.04.04 06:58:00 -
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This won't solve anything as the players who can "protostomp" either have so much ISK that even a 200% increase wouldn't phase them, or they're consistently better than the team they're fighting thus having minimal losses.
Godin Thekiller wrote:lol, you clearly don't understand how bad of a idea that is, especially when that has been tried, and failed.
RULE 1: NEVER BALANCE ON ISK.
I'm highly opposed to the OP's idea, however I don't believe the she's trying to balance the power of prototype items around currency (ISK/AUR), but instead its frequency.
Basically, increasing price to reduce usage.
You may not like what I said, but it's true.
It might anger or offend you, but it's still true.
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Denchlad 7
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Posted - 2015.04.04 17:26:00 -
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50%?
250% would start to phase me.
"Dench stop hitting your head you Caldari pinball" - m621 zma
Currently on Dust hiatus.
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.04.04 18:20:00 -
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Or a special skill that let the redlined team call in gang of mixed dinosaurs which will stomp the protostompers 
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Derpty Derp
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.04.04 18:26:00 -
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It's certainly 1 way to increase the gap between current proto users and people who may have been saving up isk to spam along with them.
A change like that would likely be announced before hand, even if not, people will have a lot of chance to stock pile. |
el OPERATOR
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Bad Intention
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Posted - 2015.04.04 21:59:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:Or a special skill that let the redlined team call in gang of mixed dinosaurs which will stomp the protostompers
Yes.
Our "Lost Planet"s need to "Evolve".
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Drunk Night Tree Burner.
This is my Main and Original.
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CLONE117
True Pros Forever
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Posted - 2015.04.04 23:51:00 -
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lets make all gear free. and then balance the game.
that way every one and their mother will be using full proto suits. and then every scrub will be complaining because they can no longer stomp every1.
and then wed have only one thing to use isk on. pc.
if only we could pilot the mcc.
id end the matches real quick.
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Godin Thekiller
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Posted - 2015.04.05 00:50:00 -
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Nevyn Tazinas wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:There is only one solution to protostomping......
be a protostomper, be patient while you obtain skill, as in actual skill and skill points.
The people at the top are at the top because they worked their way up. While there were no protostompers because everyone was new and while they got infinite funds from broken PC mechanics..... That argument of 'they all worked up the same way' is not only stupid 'We all got bullied so you have to get bullied too', it's also utterly incorrect in this case.
That is incorrect on several levels:
1- If you mean from release, then there's been PROTO stompers before that point, simply because there's been players playing Dust over and a year and a half before launch. Even back when the game was in the beginnings in CB, or hell even alpha, obtaining PROTO and then starting to stomp with it didn't take long at all, weeks maybe (can't exactly remember).
2- Obtaining a massive amount of ISK existed before PC. I personally had over my accounts about 700 million ISK before Uprising launched.
Also, you could simply get gud. I mean, I don't use anything but BPO's or STD gear when I infantry, and I easily kill PROTO fitted people all the time.
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kickin six
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.04.05 02:39:00 -
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Guess I'm a bit of a fatalist solo. Once the swarm is on and the match is toast. I either drop uplinks in key fallback points or grab my FG and kill anything that moves knowing that I'll probably die a couple times. Just part of playing I guess. |
Godin Thekiller
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Posted - 2015.04.05 03:37:00 -
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Zepod wrote:This won't solve anything as the players who can "protostomp" either have so much ISK that even a 200% increase wouldn't phase them, or they're consistently better than the team they're fighting thus having minimal losses. Godin Thekiller wrote:lol, you clearly don't understand how bad of a idea that is, especially when that has been tried, and failed.
RULE 1: NEVER BALANCE ON ISK. I'm highly opposed to the OP's idea, however I don't believe the she's trying to balance the power of prototype items around currency (ISK/AUR), but instead its frequency. Basically, increasing price to reduce usage.
That is what balancing on ISK means. It. Has. Failed. Every. Time.
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MRBH1997
Knights Of Ender
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Posted - 2015.04.05 15:10:00 -
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DR DEESE NUTS wrote:Increasing it by 200% still won't put a dent in most wallets.
That would mainly be those that were in the abusive blue donate during passive ISK gain in PC.
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BAD FURRY
Oh No You Didn't
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Posted - 2015.04.05 15:34:00 -
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emm kay wrote:Increase the ISK cost of all proto items by 50%.
It would rip a new one in player's wallets.
omg how wrong you are ...
the only thing that comes out of that is more pro stomping from pc players
you want to fix pro stop nerf pro stuff or make players need war points to uses it in battle 1st
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Shamarskii Simon
The Hundred Acre Hood
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.04.05 16:40:00 -
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Meta locking seems to be the way...
If you using a calass comp mods is almost the only way... It would be a little unfair to raise the price. (E.G comp regulators on C/1 to properly cal-tank)
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KA24DERT
TeamPlayers
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Posted - 2015.04.06 03:07:00 -
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The best way to stop protostomping is PVE, so that players who are bad at shooters can shoot NPCs all day and stop blaming the enemy's gear for their total lack of initiative and skill.
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Alena Ventrallis
Ahrendee Inc.
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Posted - 2015.04.06 03:55:00 -
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KA24DERT wrote:The best way to stop protostomping is PVE, so that players who are bad at shooters can shoot NPCs all day and stop blaming the enemy's gear for their total lack of initiative and skill.
Or, PVE gives new players an area where they can practice their skills while gaining enough ISK and SP to take on the proto-stompers.
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Godin Thekiller
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Posted - 2015.04.06 04:33:00 -
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BAD FURRY wrote:emm kay wrote:Increase the ISK cost of all proto items by 50%.
It would rip a new one in player's wallets. omg how wrong you are ... the only thing that comes out of that is more pro stomping from pc players you want to fix pro stop nerf pro stuff or make players need war points to uses it in battle 1st
Or tiercide.
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Francois Sanchez
Prima Gallicus
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Posted - 2015.04.06 10:40:00 -
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Balancing on ISK doesn't work. Btw your solution would make proto stompers stronger as their opponents won't be able to use proto at all.
If you want to change ISK costs (which I think it's a bad idea), you should REDUCE the cost of proto by 50% so that the noobs can use it too.
And also protostomping mainly comes from the average player lack of skill and motivation. A good squad will still stomp using STD gear without trouble. |
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