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nicholas73
Glitched Connection
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Posted - 2015.04.02 11:25:00 -
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....cause they can't protostomp anymore, how sad!!
The insane number of squads dropping out just shows how much they don't want a fair fight.
Rattati please press on with the new matchmaking, if they leave (which they won't) it will make dust a better game for others.
"Knowing more means having more shit to deal with, you know." - Hachiman (Oregairu)
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Mad Syringe
ReDust Inc.
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Posted - 2015.04.02 11:29:00 -
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You are right, though I think however, that a lot of those squads leave because of members not getting into the battle.
This is a serious issue, and should be top of the list for Rattati to solve.
Apart from that some sort of penalty for constantly leaving battles is necessary to punish the cowards. |
Yeeeuuuupppp
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Posted - 2015.04.02 11:32:00 -
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Hurrr durrr Yeeeuuuupppp needs to l2 browse forums
Yesterday I just noticed that in skirm I kept facing the same ToP camping on high ground noobs and I was always on the same team as extacy cravings and the teams were only 11v14 most of the time.. Got boring fast
Sheeba Sheeba
PSN: GMANCASH
"I played Dust so long i grew a f--king afro"
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Mad Syringe
ReDust Inc.
700
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Posted - 2015.04.02 11:35:00 -
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Check the first thread in GD... |
Regis Blackbird
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.04.02 13:37:00 -
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Mad Syringe wrote:You are right, though I think however, that a lot of those squads leave because of members not getting into the battle.
This is a serious issue, and should be top of the list for Rattati to solve.
Apart from that some sort of penalty for constantly leaving battles is necessary to punish the cowards.
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Ku Shala
UNITED MERCINARY AND PILOTS ALLIANCE
Immortals of War
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Posted - 2015.04.02 13:43:00 -
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poor matchmaking at its best last night, 10vs1 or other gross imbalances 16 vs 8, 12 vs 9, just encourages more people to leave too.
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Caldari Loyalist
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Thor Odinson42
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.04.02 15:15:00 -
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Mad Syringe wrote:You are right, though I think however, that a lot of those squads leave because of members not getting into the battle.
This is a serious issue, and should be top of the list for Rattati to solve.
Apart from that some sort of penalty for constantly leaving battles is necessary to punish the cowards.
It happens at least 1 out of 5 battles when I play. Or the fact that you wait 5 minutes with a rf1 posted everywhere, then as soon as "waiting for deployment" pops up someone x's up.
As much as I want to see punishment for leaving battles, the last thing Dust needs is more people deploying solo to avoid getting punished for Scotty being an idiot. |
Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.04.02 15:26:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Mad Syringe wrote:You are right, though I think however, that a lot of those squads leave because of members not getting into the battle.
This is a serious issue, and should be top of the list for Rattati to solve.
Apart from that some sort of penalty for constantly leaving battles is necessary to punish the cowards. It happens at least 1 out of 5 battles when I play. Or the fact that you wait 5 minutes with a rf1 posted everywhere, then as soon as "waiting for deployment" pops up someone x's up. As much as I want to see punishment for leaving battles, the last thing Dust needs is more people deploying solo to avoid getting punished for Scotty being an idiot.
But pub-scrubs won't understand the concept of playing together so that thought never occurs to them.
Like Thor said, it may be best to have it to where it's more like X amount of times in a certain period of time.
Even then, I've seen scotty **** up four times in a row with a six man squad.
Best thing to do is fix scotty ASAP or kick his ass to the curb for sleeping on the job so much.
As long as 5/6 (83%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
3628
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Posted - 2015.04.02 15:54:00 -
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Played a bunch of battles last night. Other than most of the battles being short players, the fights were incredibly well matched and far more difficult than they were earlier this week. It seemed as if we were only going up against experienced players with similar levels of SP (i.e. high levels of SP).
I loved it. People who worry about KDR or who don't like good fights won't like it at all, I suspect. |
nelo kazuma
Da Short Buss Driving School
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Posted - 2015.04.02 16:06:00 -
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Within 8 matches me and a full squad of 6 went into battle never once lost someone but saw so many people dropping. I know its not because of losing teamates because it was the exact same people oh n reason battles arent now 16 vs 16 as much cuz theres more balanced matches n teams so hey better matches because there are allot of solo players and small squads. |
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.04.02 16:26:00 -
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Last night, I had the most fun matches I've had in months. They were incredibly close and the teams were very even, even though we didn't always have the same number of people on both teams. Initially, I was frustrated because I wasn't achieving ludicrus K/D's anymore, but once I got over that and started focusing on having fun... It was great. Now that I'm not worrying about my stats like the scrub I was, I feel... free! 
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
I'm a monster
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Thor Odinson42
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.04.02 16:31:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Last night, I had the most fun matches I've had in months. They were incredibly close and the teams were very even, even though we didn't always have the same number of people on both teams. Initially, I was frustrated because I wasn't achieving ludicrus K/D's anymore, but once I got over that and started focusing on having fun... It was great. Now that I'm not worrying about my stats like the scrub I was, I feel... free!
I started coming to that realization myself. I think you get accustomed to playing against people who just stopped licking windows long enough to fire a few rounds in your direction.
I do feel like we need to get increased payouts with this new matchmaking. Increased payouts and some type of penalty for leaving matches and I think it could generate a lot of fun. |
Dreis ShadowWeaver
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.04.02 16:37:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Last night, I had the most fun matches I've had in months. They were incredibly close and the teams were very even, even though we didn't always have the same number of people on both teams. Initially, I was frustrated because I wasn't achieving ludicrus K/D's anymore, but once I got over that and started focusing on having fun... It was great. Now that I'm not worrying about my stats like the scrub I was, I feel... free! I started coming to that realization myself. I think you get accustomed to playing against people who just stopped licking windows long enough to fire a few rounds in your direction. I do feel like we need to get increased payouts with this new matchmaking. Increased payouts and some type of penalty for leaving matches and I think it could generate a lot of fun.
Maybe just increased payouts for those in the upper band? Since we're the guys that are more likely to use expensive gear. 
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
I'm a monster
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Harry Bawlss
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.04.02 16:40:00 -
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nicholas73 wrote:....cause they can't protostomp anymore, how sad!!
The insane number of squads dropping out just shows how much they don't want a fair fight.
Rattati please press on with the new matchmaking, if they leave (which they won't) it will make dust a better game for others.
I think more people are complaining because of games not being filled. 1 Out of roughly 15-20 games last night was filled for me. not because people left, they left after noticing the game was only half full. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2015.04.02 16:51:00 -
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Mad Syringe wrote:You are right, though I think however, that a lot of those squads leave because of members not getting into the battle.
This is a serious issue, and should be top of the list for Rattati to solve.
Apart from that some sort of penalty for constantly leaving battles is necessary to punish the cowards.
Considering that there are an extremely humongous larger amounts of complaints of the issue of people leaving rather than squaddies getting kicked out and how nobody else I talk to that does normally squad is reporting this I am hard inclined to believe this.
CPM 1, Secretary
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Marcus Stormfire
G.R.A.V.E
The Ditanian Alliance
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Posted - 2015.04.02 16:56:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:Played a bunch of battles last night. Other than most of the battles being short players, the fights were incredibly well matched and far more difficult than they were earlier this week. It seemed as if we were only going up against experienced players with similar levels of SP (i.e. high levels of SP).
I loved it. People who worry about KDR or who don't like good fights won't like it at all, I suspect.
I have to agree. I have found that the number of challenging and fun battles have increased in number since the update. I will have to play several more matches to confirm. =)
-Marcus
-I don't always kill Mercs with a sidearm, But when I do I use militia.
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Satori Particle
Resheph Interstellar Strategy
Gallente Federation
40
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Posted - 2015.04.02 16:56:00 -
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Lead a squad through 5-6 wins last night. Most fun I've had playing Dust in a long time. |
Scotty AI MatchMaker
Horizons' Edge
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Posted - 2015.04.02 17:39:00 -
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New matchmaker? I WILL FIND HIM!
If it's OP im using it
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Flint Beastgood III
GunFall Mobilization
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Posted - 2015.04.02 19:02:00 -
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nicholas73 wrote:....cause they can't protostomp anymore, how sad!!
The insane number of squads dropping out just shows how much they don't want a fair fight.
Rattati please press on with the new matchmaking, if they leave (which they won't) it will make dust a better game for others.
In case you haven't encountered it, there is a crazy Scotty bug going around where he deploys you out of the blue, puts you into a battle but before you can spawn he removes the whole squad. This can go on for ages. It is currently happening in the squad I'm in. Not saying it's all from this bug because it obviously isn't.
Matchmaking is actually very good now with some awesome fights to be had!
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Thor Odinson42
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.04.02 19:34:00 -
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Flint Beastgood III wrote:nicholas73 wrote:....cause they can't protostomp anymore, how sad!!
The insane number of squads dropping out just shows how much they don't want a fair fight.
Rattati please press on with the new matchmaking, if they leave (which they won't) it will make dust a better game for others. In case you haven't encountered it, there is a crazy Scotty bug going around where he deploys you out of the blue, puts you into a battle but before you can spawn he removes the whole squad. This can go on for ages. It is currently happening in the squad I'm in. Not saying it's all from this bug because it obviously isn't. Matchmaking is actually very good now with some awesome fights to be had!
I was wondering. I've seen you guys leave battle immediately like 14 battles in a row. |
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
General Tso's Alliance
682
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Posted - 2015.04.02 19:34:00 -
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I would just like to get in a game that's a full 16vs16.... I don't like having to spend the whole game looking for a single redberry to kill :c
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Flint Beastgood III
GunFall Mobilization
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Posted - 2015.04.02 19:36:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Flint Beastgood III wrote:nicholas73 wrote:....cause they can't protostomp anymore, how sad!!
The insane number of squads dropping out just shows how much they don't want a fair fight.
Rattati please press on with the new matchmaking, if they leave (which they won't) it will make dust a better game for others. In case you haven't encountered it, there is a crazy Scotty bug going around where he deploys you out of the blue, puts you into a battle but before you can spawn he removes the whole squad. This can go on for ages. It is currently happening in the squad I'm in. Not saying it's all from this bug because it obviously isn't. Matchmaking is actually very good now with some awesome fights to be had! I was wondering. I've seen you guys leave battle immediately like 14 battles in a row.
Aha! A witness. 
The last one it put us in I was there long enough to see that a battle was actually taking place so, evidently, it's not happening to everyone. 
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Reign Omega
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
1376
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Posted - 2015.04.02 19:39:00 -
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Played quite a bit this week, had 2 days off in a row. Here are some things I noticed...
1. I can't shoot.
2. Had some really good fights, and some really boring ones.
3. I'm usually deployed on the short handed team, therefore I must be OP.
4. Train map, in ambush, skirmish and dom. A lot.
5. Plasma cannons. In your face.
6. Half the squad deployed, half not, often.
7. Long queue times. Good for pee breaks and making sandwiches.
8. I die to a lot of different things now, which is good.
9. Oh look, train map again.
10. My warbarge will never be any use being able to only play once a week.
The frustration of the core balancing issues and core gameplay issues remain, but there is some fun to be had. Apparently my sub 2 kdr and inability to hit moving targets is counterbalanced by the wp siphoning I do, which still qualifies me to be put in with the big dogs. Interested in seeing where this goes.
Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
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Flint Beastgood III
GunFall Mobilization
1566
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Posted - 2015.04.02 19:39:00 -
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Mortishai Belmont wrote:I would just like to get in a game that's a full 16vs16.... I don't like having to spend the whole game looking for a single redberry to kill :c
Up until Scotty started bugging out on me (nearly an hour ago now), I've had nothing but great games (in a full squad). No late entries, no lag, very few useless blueberries, and all round intense battles, many coming right down to the wire.
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS
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Posted - 2015.04.02 19:41:00 -
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nicholas73 wrote:....cause they can't protostomp anymore, how sad!!
The insane number of squads dropping out just shows how much they don't want a fair fight.
Rattati please press on with the new matchmaking, if they leave (which they won't) it will make dust a better game for others.
There are only a few things really breaking the new match making.
Scotty/PSN - Sometimes people just do not make it into a match and most real squads are going to back out for those members. There is not a lot that can be done for this except for being sure their place gets taken which they are currently adjusting.
Squad members hitting the wrong button - See the first explanation.
The Train Map - I do not think anything needs to be said here.
W/L and K/D whores who quickly leave when they see anyone who has previously killed them. - I say we publically shame these people with a DNF leader board and call those leaves a loss automatically to hurt those stats they are trying to protect. Maybe their fear of being laughed at or not recruited thanks to being very high in the all time leader board of not finishing battles will make them think twice about this activity.
TL;DR
Give us a DNF leader board so we can point, laugh, and kick corp members who do nothing but attempt to pad their stats.
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Sicerly Yaw
Quantum times
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Posted - 2015.04.02 19:46:00 -
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nicholas73 wrote:....cause they can't protostomp anymore, how sad!!
The insane number of squads dropping out just shows how much they don't want a fair fight.
Rattati please press on with the new matchmaking, if they leave (which they won't) it will make dust a better game for others.
wait so youre telling me I didnt just get proto stomped and spawn camped at every spawn? |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
64
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Posted - 2015.04.02 19:49:00 -
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nicholas73 wrote:....cause they can't protostomp anymore, how sad!!
The insane number of squads dropping out just shows how much they don't want a fair fight.
Rattati please press on with the new matchmaking, if they leave (which they won't) it will make dust a better game for others.
What are u talking about that there are whining. How do u expect new player to survive in a game where most of veteran player got all the better stuff. Come on man, do u not see what problem is within the game itself that u get into a lobby where other team is half full. While some of them quit in the middle of the game. No wonder the player base in this game is dead. |
Thor Odinson42
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.04.02 19:51:00 -
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Flint Beastgood III wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Flint Beastgood III wrote:nicholas73 wrote:....cause they can't protostomp anymore, how sad!!
The insane number of squads dropping out just shows how much they don't want a fair fight.
Rattati please press on with the new matchmaking, if they leave (which they won't) it will make dust a better game for others. In case you haven't encountered it, there is a crazy Scotty bug going around where he deploys you out of the blue, puts you into a battle but before you can spawn he removes the whole squad. This can go on for ages. It is currently happening in the squad I'm in. Not saying it's all from this bug because it obviously isn't. Matchmaking is actually very good now with some awesome fights to be had! I was wondering. I've seen you guys leave battle immediately like 14 battles in a row. Aha! A witness. The last one it put us in I was there long enough to see that a battle was actually taking place so, evidently, it's not happening to everyone.
I've been cussing you guys for screwing up my matches. It didn't matter though. The people on my team were so ******* worthless that virtually the entire enemy team leaving battle still ended up in stomps. |
Flint Beastgood III
GunFall Mobilization
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Posted - 2015.04.02 19:51:00 -
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Sicerly Yaw wrote:nicholas73 wrote:....cause they can't protostomp anymore, how sad!!
The insane number of squads dropping out just shows how much they don't want a fair fight.
Rattati please press on with the new matchmaking, if they leave (which they won't) it will make dust a better game for others. wait so youre telling me I didnt just get proto stomped and spawn camped at every spawn?
Lifetime SP and WP?
I haven't seen a proper protostomp yet. I've seen a squad here and there, but never enough to have much of a sway against one or two protos on our team - since they are now usually backed by fully competent adv players, with only the occasional useless blueberry.
[76mil SP / 8.4mil WP]
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Flint Beastgood III
GunFall Mobilization
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Posted - 2015.04.02 19:59:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Flint Beastgood III wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Flint Beastgood III wrote:nicholas73 wrote:....cause they can't protostomp anymore, how sad!!
The insane number of squads dropping out just shows how much they don't want a fair fight.
Rattati please press on with the new matchmaking, if they leave (which they won't) it will make dust a better game for others. In case you haven't encountered it, there is a crazy Scotty bug going around where he deploys you out of the blue, puts you into a battle but before you can spawn he removes the whole squad. This can go on for ages. It is currently happening in the squad I'm in. Not saying it's all from this bug because it obviously isn't. Matchmaking is actually very good now with some awesome fights to be had! I was wondering. I've seen you guys leave battle immediately like 14 battles in a row. Aha! A witness. The last one it put us in I was there long enough to see that a battle was actually taking place so, evidently, it's not happening to everyone. I've been cussing you guys for screwing up my matches. It didn't matter though. The people on my team were so ******* worthless that virtually the entire enemy team leaving battle still ended up in stomps.
It hurts because I've had two 3-day omegas running since just before the new matchmaking kicked in. Guess I shoulda been paying attention. Oh well.
It sucks because up until Scotty started messing with me I had been having a great day on DUST. Some of the closest battles I've ever had on DUST occured today. Great matchmaking = great fights.
EDIT: YES! I didn't get "Scottied"! Get in!
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Edgar Reinhart
Resheph Interstellar Strategy
Gallente Federation
66
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Posted - 2015.04.02 20:18:00 -
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Posted an unexpectedly long piece about my first go on the new matchmaker as a relative useless blueberry here
Some interesting some not.... But the tl/dr is
T\L DR
When the teambuilder/matchmaker worked last nigh it was really good. There are still a few kinks to work out around team numbers and what happens when people leave during the battle. If someone ends up in the 'wrong' tier they are going to be able to absolutely clean house, witness Mr Prima Gallicus going 65/0 but I think/hope that things are on the right track. In the good matches things certainly didn't seem quite as daunting for the really new players as before, but still a considerable step up from the Academy. Everyone will have to hear from them to know for sure though. As a middle of the road casual I had a good competitive time.
What did I learn?
There still needs to be a much better tutorial for new players around game modes, hacking objectives, uplinks, use of supply depots, weapons etc. Although all the frontline suits now have uplinks few people seemed to use/ be aware of them.
Very few of the lower ranked players (myself included) seem to run in squads.
There are actually quite a few new players still.
The Militia Assault Scrambler Rifle wrecks.
SP investment really does make a difference.
A Proto suit without all proto modules and a proto weapon isn't nearly as scary as one with.
If only one person in the match has skilled into and figured out how the mass driver works they can completely dominate the point on the train map.
Without proto vets etc hanging over the battlefield more styles of gameplay seem to occur. There was more dropship transportation, tank support, snipe and counter snipe going on. Useful installations weren't insta killed at the start of matches and actually proved useful and dangerous for both teams.
The slightly more balanced and generally higher TTK of everyone in the battle added to the fun.
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CLONE117
True Pros Forever
896
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Posted - 2015.04.02 22:06:00 -
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Ku Shala wrote:poor matchmaking at its best last night, 10vs1 or other gross imbalances 16 vs 8, 12 vs 9, just encourages more people to leave too.
i would gladly take on ten guys straight from academy with full mlt.
if only we could pilot the mcc.
id end the matches real quick.
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Pocket Rocket Girl
Psygod9
325
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Posted - 2015.04.02 22:27:00 -
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nicholas73 wrote:....cause they can't protostomp anymore, how sad!!
The insane number of squads dropping out just shows how much they don't want a fair fight.
Rattati please press on with the new matchmaking, if they leave (which they won't) it will make dust a better game for others.
just because people leave it dosent mean they dont want a fair fight. maybe youre talking for your self personally but i leave because i get a squad invite, or its a map i dont like (im getting tired of the train tunnel map any one else?) could be because one of my squad mates got skottied or the exciting internal error or game froze lag black screen circle of doom some one didnt deploy wanted to pick some one else up etc etc
Moo?
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poopy pantzs
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2015.04.02 22:33:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:Ku Shala wrote:poor matchmaking at its best last night, 10vs1 or other gross imbalances 16 vs 8, 12 vs 9, just encourages more people to leave too. i would gladly take on ten guys straight from academy with full mlt.
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Vyzion Eyri
WarRavens
2731
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Posted - 2015.04.02 22:39:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Mad Syringe wrote:You are right, though I think however, that a lot of those squads leave because of members not getting into the battle.
This is a serious issue, and should be top of the list for Rattati to solve.
Apart from that some sort of penalty for constantly leaving battles is necessary to punish the cowards. Considering that there are an extremely humongous larger amounts of complaints of the issue of people leaving rather than squaddies getting kicked out and how nobody else I talk to that does normally squad is reporting this I am hard inclined to believe this.
Think we need to find out whether or not since the matchmaking addition, there has been an increase in the rate of which squads aren't fully deployed into matches. If this is NOT the case, that is, if we're seeing that squads aren't fully deploying with the same frequency as prior to the change, then we can deduce that people are a) using it as an excuse and b) there certainly should be a focus on people simply leaving over fixing the split-squad syndrome, because no-one has really complained about it before.
Basically, if for some reason implementation of matchmaking has directly increased the amount of squads being split, then perhaps there is an issue. IF matchmaking just made squad-splitting more obvious in our eyes since it has never really been an issue before, then the real issue is stopping people from leaving matches.
> Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
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Mad Syringe
ReDust Inc.
736
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Posted - 2015.04.02 23:39:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Mad Syringe wrote:You are right, though I think however, that a lot of those squads leave because of members not getting into the battle.
This is a serious issue, and should be top of the list for Rattati to solve.
Apart from that some sort of penalty for constantly leaving battles is necessary to punish the cowards. Considering that there are an extremely humongous larger amounts of complaints of the issue of people leaving rather than squaddies getting kicked out and how nobody else I talk to that does normally squad is reporting this I am hard inclined to believe this.
Well, I myself rarely get kicked out of a deploy, but that may have to do with my pretty stable line.
I have however had others getting not deployed within squads I was running in. And If you have important members dropping (squad lead...) you will probably leave to pick him up again.
Also people unintentionally cancelling their deploy, should not be possible so easiely!
There will always people who leave because they don't want to loose a fight, (kdr whores) but those should be penalized for their behaviour, by getting bad rating in their contract violation ratio (new stat). + an Isk penalty.
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