I love it when Devs pop in and say something as sweet as this :P

no sliding, no cover, just lower crouch.

wow thats crazy I been had that idea 2 weeks ago on june 22nd HERE for proof. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=152028#post152028

This is what i said


#1 Posted: 2012.06.22 20:22
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It would be a good ideal to have evasive maneuvers in the game like jumping over fences like in BF3,For the 3 main classes they each get a different maneuver.

Enforcer GÇô Assault
For Enforcer class they can slide like in the dust 514 trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRyXDlZKwgA at exactly 1:13 the merc guy slides for cover.

Arbiter GÇô Scout
For Arbiter they can roll over when close combat goes to them http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mBa0_19XqY at exactly 2:04 the heavy trooper rolls over for incoming rocket.

Sentinel GÇô Heavy

And for Sentinel class they are able to hide behind pillars and walls and switch to pistol to shoot at enemies http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4nw4u-KgHw at exactly 0:46 the soldier hides behind a pillar from incoming fire.
Well what do you guys think?

I would not like a slide.

Strange movements are always taken advantage of in FPS games. As someone mentioned before "bunny hop" and "Dolphin Divers"

Not to mention the other games that did have slide effects in an online FPS. In my experience slide mechanics have been very difficult to pull off, and I would be very hesitant to add it into a game as a second thought.

I really enjoy the movement in the game so far, a little bunny hop here and there, but nothing worth complaining about. I think a slide system that wasn't intended in the first place would come across very poor.

In the end, I think, a slide mechanic would just be an annoying gimmick that would lower the image of Dust 514.

Dust 514 isn't just another boxing ring FPS.

This has much more to it. Those other games put in "sliding" and "cover systems" and "par coeur" to try and separate themselves from the pack.

Dust 514 has already done that. CCP doesn't need to add in a cheap gimmick to try and gain a name for themselves.

sliding seems like it would be very hard to pull off for dust while i admit id love to try it it seems a bit unreasonable especially if you like playing heavies. i mean if i was in heavy suit taking out a tank while in semi cover say somewhere are the a pillars int he skirmish matches and a scout ran up shooting at me from behind i pull around taking out secondary just to have the scout slide right under my view while shooting (if they could shoot while sliding) then getting up and melee kill or shoot me to death within no time at all because heavy turn ability too slow. seems extremely unfair to heavies in such cases.

YES, wall running, we are in sci fi suits, the scout should be able to sprint striaght up a wall, i mean, why not? make it a tech 2 feature of many drop suits.

even if it's slowler, larger suits like the assaut, could take a moment to get his boots on the wall, and then you can head up the wall slowly, could be really awesome.

Support from me, add sliding, and more movements! Like why can't I go prone! I want to get on my belly and snipe without wobble, this is the future, I should have an automatic kick stand on the gun if I drop to the ground. you become defenseless and can't see anything around you, but it's a fps standard. Also it could be fun for the heavy, if you could set up the HMS as a turret. You fire it like your manning a turret, but you cant move with it unless you pick it bak up. I think halo had something like this?

I'm honestly curious. dolphin dive? what? I haven't heard that before.

I think that the sliding feature is a good idea. You shouldn't be allowed to shoot while sliding cause then you would have everyone sliding and shooting at each other. If you could sprint up to a wall, pillar or any other kind of cover and hit the crouch button to slide behind it to stop from getting shot at it would help out. It should definitely drain your stamina quite considerably so people can't just keep running and sliding all over the place.

It's a great tactic that people would be allowed to use especially if you have a sniper or a heavy holding down a certain area. It would allow you to sprint by them and slide into cover to dodge the shots coming from them. It would be good for someone who is trying to pick someone up to that is behind cover so they could run up and slide to them to help them out. This is the future and sliding has been a tactic used for years so why not in the future.

As for the heavies, they shouldn't be allowed to slide. You already have a big advantage having a bigger gun and the ability to put more rounds down then an assault rifle. I could see like a quick side step to get behind cover quicker but not sliding. If you run with a heavy suit then you already know you aren't going to be fast and not going to be able to slide with the extra weight.

yeah I'm not exactly gonna jump on the slide around wagon here...

+1 as long as the slide isnt a faster way of getin around than sprinting, and as long as it doesnt have to crazy of a use in cqc cause sliding in brink was alittle crazy (not saying brink was good but still)

I didn't like this at first but sliding would be kinda cool and give us some more options when moving into cover. I would however like to be able to lay down as well. Hold triangle while sprinting to slide. Hold triangle while standing still to lay down.

And by skip I mean like the heavy is hopping over a cute woodland creature while furiously clenching his butt cheeks together in an effort to hold back the impending deluge of crap that is the result of a late morning fourth meal from Taco Bell.

IMO Prone is tied into sliding since it's a movement/body stance... And could possible be tied into the same button. I'll save the Dev's some extra leg work by just combining. The point of a conversation is to cover all things that are similar...

The point of prone is for snipers to be less visible... If that is not reason enough for you put on a scout suit and grab a sniper rifle.

Press triangle while NOT sprinting to toggle between standing and crouching.
Press triangle while sprinting for a short slide from which you can come up still sprinting.
Hold triangle for a longer slide that ends with you crouching.

I just wanted to add something. Why should this game only cater to the guys that want fast paced action? I want prone and to be sneaky or at least the ability to. If I'm out voted then there ya go not enough people will use Prone to slow the game down for the guys that want in your face fast paced gameplay. Seriously Sliding AND Prone should be added.

imo no prone or football sliding ..due to the fact that you really dont want to have prone snipers with cloaking devices, invisible lying down snipers O_O

I was one of the people saying this, but I specifically mentioned that it doesn't HAVE to slow the game down.

Slowing the game down is one possible outcome (and it HAS happened in some games with a prone option). The other possible outcome is the introduction of cheap exploits of the system. Usually these result in players going prone in CQC or switching to prone in mid-air and exploiting the system to be near-invulnerable.

While it's probably technically possible, I'm yet to see (or even hear about) a single game that has neither of those problems. You also don't get BOTH problems, because the causes for them are mutually exclusive, but having either one is a negative for many games.

As for the argument that slowing the game down isn't a bad thing? For some games it may not be. But with how this game is shaping up, and with some of the already-confirmed future developments, it would DEFINITELY cause problems to slow it down as much as a slow-paced prone system would.

I'm definitely in favour of sliding. Not sure whether you should be "no shooting" or "impractical no-aim shooting" during the move, but definitely no ability to consistently hit a target while sliding. I also agree with the people saying movement speed (which is mostly influenced by your Dropsuit choice) should alter how far you can slide.

Weather could have an effect on the sliding distance. If it rains the distance could be x1,3 or something similar.

ppl complain about strafe speed and how they cant track targets but want gimmicky sliding and shootin
and ppl wonder why FPS genre is so much **** these days

Here is a thread about this thema too.

Movement ideas

its still a dumb idea
ppl complain about simple BASIC things like strafe and jumpin but u wanna add gimmicks?

and lol @ strafing is fine not sure if srs

Hey let's add dolphin diving with that slide...

slide, dolphin dive, prone drop shot...THAT'S A STUPID IDEA!

While we're on stupid ideas, I think killstreaks would be a good addition.

I actually couldn't tell if you were serious...

You said you could barely shoot assault suits as it is???...but you want to add sliding for some reason? They nerfed strafing so people with ****** gun game, and no skill wouldn't cry about not being able to shoot people...but yet here you are wanting to add something that will make it harder to shoot people.

WTF do you casual gamers want? Really...

You people come in here recommending the dumbest **** ever, and the devs listen to you LOL.

If you can't get assault players right now, then your opinion or suggestions are void. Your skill in this game is sorry to say, lacking, so I consider to a casual gamer making suggestions about a game that requires skill to play.

What people do is instead of raising their gaming skill, they cry to nerf stuff, or add things to make the game cheap. Nerfing the strafe was good for you, but sliding away like a girl is fine? LOOOOOL

Casual gamers ftw.

Sliding would, as I see it, allow for smoother gameplay.. I often run from cover to cover (I'm tactical, so sue me) and a sliding ability would make it a lot easier to run to a cover at short to medium distance from where you are..

People talking about this being a gimmick seems ridiculous to me.. Sliding into cover is tactical movement, whether you like it or not and it would be a great addition to this already awesome game!

please lord an all that is holy......shakes head..please no.I feel sick all the sudden.People sliding around as soon as they get shot at.180 turn arounds or people combo this maneuver with jumping.If you consider this please dont allow shooting at he same time as this animation...omg I see the abuse now.

sprint slide jumping...omg might as well just rock the Scout with an smg an knife skills maxed out. As I slide through the 3 of you after sprinting at you blasting the whole time and end the slide with a jump 180 for good measure grenade toss.....BOOM,OR on the slide past planting c4 on one of you.
I would pown all,if you allow this..I would become the hardest target to hit ever....dont allow this.

whoah whoah whooooooooah . Easy there cow-boys !

Sliding ? Already a bad idea imo.
Sliding AND firing ? Remember Brink ? the broken game. VERY BAD idea.

Seriously, adding a prone option seems pretty normal. but sliding ? You'll get massive shitload of new bugs, shitload of "sliders suckers" etc... and the game will end up being a fest of scout with stamina lvl 5, stamina boosters sliding all around.

PLEASE, forget about this.

sliding is dumb
sad thing is........this thread got dev feedback smh
dust goin places

oh trust me it doesnt
last thing we need is more gimmicks
rather have some features put in that actually useful tbh than seeing requests made for features that just honestly not needed

Ok, and while we are adding sliding, add a prone position and knockdown effects from explosions, knocking a player down when a nearby explosion hits.

Suggestion that i would like to make to the Dust 514 team is trying to implement prone if possible that would be really helpful.

Here are a few ideas that I believe could improve the game:

1. Vehicle controls should be altered. I believe the driving controls should be R2 to go forward, L2 to reverse, left analog stick to steer, and the right analog stick to look around. Keep triangle to switch seats.

2. It is much too slow to switch to the sidearm. I actually wish it wasn't mapped to R2 as well. Triangle would be much better. Make the right analog stick switch stance. L2 melee and R2 grenade.

3. The reload animations are a bit too long in my opinion.

4. I think the maps should look different based on the atmosphere of the planet. Fire, Ice, Forest, Desert, Storms, Snow. You could also have ancient cities, refineries, villages, architecture of the different cultures, mines, etc. Variety is always nice and should set the maps apart.

5. All the classes should have unique weapons and abilities that help the team. Assault is useless right now.

6. Additional cosmetic variety between classes and enemies. Should be able to look at player and tell what class they are playing.

7. Aim assist and voice chat should be enabled by default.

8. Higher default looking sensitivity.

9. Camera should be farther away from character in HQ.

10. Improve textures and effects

11. Grenade indicator for friendly and enemy grenades. Make indicator different colors.

12. Hit boxes need to be adjusted.

13. Reloading while running would be great.

14. Stamina meter is a bit annoying, would prefer unlimited sprint.

15. Hold breath while sniping if not already possible.

16. More class based game play similar to battlefield but on a greater level so people work together more.

17. Engineers can build temporary structures such as gun turrets

18. Press down to open a scroll wheel to select a vehicle or structure with analog stick. Look to Star Hawk for inspiration.

19. Traditional menu would be nice with a server browser and from there you can choose to go your HQ. Would have all the features and options available when you press start. HQ feels sort of gimmicky to me since its so small.

20. Orbital drop system for spawning would be awesome. I know it is in both Section 8 and Star Hawk but it makes sense in this game since you are working for the Eve Online players.

I have a feeling this is going to be an awesome game when all is said and done. :)

why not a cover system like gears of war or gost racon furure soldier ?! ?!

From what corner of the forums have you digged out that? ^^