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LOOKMOM NOHANDS 414	Posted - 2015.03.31 15:58:00 - [1] - Quote As the only weapon that depends on alpha damage in the game people are always going to scream OP and then people are going to flock to it because it is op. It will just get nerfed into the ground and people will run off to the conventionally operated weapons until the ScR is buffed again. Remove heat build up Remove charge up Increase damage Increase hip fire dispersion Give the assault a reduction to hip fire dispersion PROBLEM SOLVED. Now that it operates just like every other weapon we can very easily balance it and call it a day.
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 3167	Posted - 2015.03.31 16:01:00 - [2] - Quote Disgusting... Its one of the only truly unique guns and you're taking away... I see the rationale... But no... Plasma Cannon :3 Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
The Dark Cloud Negative-Feedback. 4241	Posted - 2015.03.31 16:01:00 - [3] - Quote And how is this balancing by buffing the regular shot damage? What would the purpose of the amarr assault be if a minmatarr suit can just strafe like a mad men and have the highest DPS weapon in the game at the same time? I make the scrubs scream and the vets cry.
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 414	Posted - 2015.03.31 16:07:00 - [4] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: Disgusting... Its one of the only truly unique guns and you're taking away... I see the rationale... But no... I more than 100% agree with you but it is becoming obvious that this community can not handle different unless different is nearly useless. The ScR is now getting nerfed because everyone is running shield suits with absolutely no tank. Maybe if shield suit users would use some tank instead of using the high slots to stack damage mods and myofibs they would not die to 1 shot after the charge shot. The Dark Cloud wrote: And how is this balancing by buffing the regular shot damage? What would the purpose of the amarr assault be if a minmatarr suit can just strafe like a mad men and have the highest DPS weapon in the game at the same time? Because it is the alpha damage that presents a problem. The charge up and the bonus against shields is what makes it so effective.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 12234	Posted - 2015.03.31 16:11:00 - [5] - Quote I hate this idea so much. We shouldn't be erasing the things that make weapons interesting and unique. And as for the claim about it being the only one that "depends" on alpha damage, that is blatantly false. The sniper rifle, forge gun, bolt pistol, and ion pistol (with charge shot) all have high alpha damage. I personally don't see an issue with the SCR, but honestly I don't even care anymore if Rattati is going to nerf it to make it less effective. However, what I would mind is if the weapon got radically changed in a way that completely removes what made it special. I skilled into the SCR for a specific set of features, and if those features get completely changed, than it's like my decision is completely invalidated. It would be like buying a sedan, and years later, the dealership replaces your sedan with an SUV without your consent. Wait to hear what Rattati actually has proposed before proposing these uniqueness-neutering measures. Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
Zepod Titans of Phoenix 135	Posted - 2015.03.31 16:17:00 - [6] - Quote I stopped taking the OP seriously when he said "everybody is running shield suits". You may not like what I said, but it's true. It might anger or offend you, but it's still true.
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 414	Posted - 2015.03.31 16:17:00 - [7] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: I hate this idea so much. We shouldn't be erasing the things that make weapons interesting and unique. And as for the claim about it being the only one that "depends" on alpha damage, that is blatantly false. The sniper rifle, forge gun, bolt pistol, and ion pistol (with charge shot) all have high alpha damage. I personally don't see an issue with the SCR, but honestly I don't even care anymore if Rattati is going to nerf it to make it less effective. However, what I would mind is if the weapon got radically changed in a way that completely removes what made it special. I skilled into the SCR for a specific set of features, and if those features get completely changed, than it's like my decision is completely invalidated. It would be like buying a sedan, and years later, the dealership replaces your sedan with an SUV without your consent. Wait to hear what Rattati actually has proposed before proposing these uniqueness-neutering measures. CCP Rattati wrote: The weapon obviously works too well in CQC. I see three ways Increase heat cost, so that you have less followup shots to spam increase hip fire kick, with compounding so the 3rd shot in succession is way off Increase charge shot multiplier, decrease normal damage = preserve dps, rewarding accuracy It is obvious that he wants it pushed out of CQC. The reason it is so effective in CQC is because scouts and heavies maintain the domain of CQC. The thing is getting nerfed into the ground soon. I would rather see "uniqueness neutered" than see it go into the trash bucket as well as becoming even more impossible for new players to use it.
Happy Violentime OMFGZOMBIESRUN 977	Posted - 2015.03.31 16:17:00 - [8] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: I hate this idea so much. We shouldn't be erasing the things that make weapons interesting and unique. And as for the claim about it being the only one that "depends" on alpha damage, that is blatantly false. The sniper rifle, forge gun, bolt pistol, and ion pistol (with charge shot) all have high alpha damage. I personally don't see an issue with the SCR, but honestly I don't even care anymore if Rattati is going to nerf it to make it less effective. However, what I would mind is if the weapon got radically changed in a way that completely removes what made it special. I skilled into the SCR for a specific set of features, and if those features get completely changed, than it's like my decision is completely invalidated. It would be like buying a sedan, and years later, the dealership replaces your sedan with an SUV without your consent. Wait to hear what Rattati actually has proposed before proposing these uniqueness-neutering measures. I think you'll find that every dust player has skilled into something for its particular features only to find those features being changed at some point. I doubt it will bother you too much for the 5 games you play a month...
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 414	Posted - 2015.03.31 16:19:00 - [9] - Quote Zepod wrote: I stopped taking the OP seriously when he said "everybody is running shield suits". I am referring to scouts. My apologies for the vagueness. If you do not see the flood of hit box glitching minmatar suits you have not been playing the game.
RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2137	Posted - 2015.03.31 16:29:00 - [10] - Quote Pathetic. Unleash the BIMBOBOT!

LOOKMOM NOHANDS 414	Posted - 2015.03.31 16:34:00 - [11] - Quote In Ratattis method of balance the natural counter to scouts is always going to get nerfed. Why we continue with this facade of "balancing" that is going to inevitably lead to scout + CR + Smg being the only viable fitting I do not know. It will be much easier to achieve this goal without burning the weapon to the ground if we go ahead and strip it of everything that makes it actually work.
DDx77 The Exemplars 184	Posted - 2015.03.31 16:45:00 - [12] - Quote Better is to offer a shield variant that has resistance to laser weaponry May the Dark shine your way
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H 179	Posted - 2015.03.31 16:46:00 - [13] - Quote Look man, Im down for complete balance but to take out one of the very few things that are unique in this game will kill it for a lot of people. This game needs all the help it can get, I know I would stop playing as much if they were to do this Scr nerf approaches.We shall see who truly knows how to wield God's wrath and heathens who wish to mimic the Amarr......
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 6882	Posted - 2015.03.31 17:08:00 - [14] - Quote The damage has to be at least greater than the TAR's because of the heat specifically. I feel the kick has to be lowered on the ADS so that you can really call it a long range weapon, but slightly increase hipfire kick and spread.
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H 179	Posted - 2015.03.31 17:10:00 - [15] - Quote Joel II X wrote: The damage has to be at least greater than the TAR's because of the heat specifically. I feel the kick has to be lowered on the ADS so that you can really call it a long range weapon, but slightly increase hipfire kick and spread. ^ this! all this! listen to this man Scr nerf approaches.We shall see who truly knows how to wield God's wrath and heathens who wish to mimic the Amarr......


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