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Apocalyptic Destroyer L.O.T.I.S. 383	Posted - 2015.03.31 06:59:00 - [1] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: AV vs. V event is on the table, yes. We want to take a look at what data hooks we can use for it and then we will do it :) You better fix most of the stuff wrong with the ADS before thinking of a vehicle event. True Amarr In Disguise Pain is weakness leaving the body Proto : ADS Pilot Ak.0 : Mando, Scout, Assault
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance 672	Posted - 2015.03.31 07:17:00 - [2] - Quote I think the python should be more like a jet and the incubis like a helicopter :3 But that's just me. As to the matter at hand, swarms are basically what rhape dropships, at least a forge gun requires good aim x.x The new C.EO. of G.L.O.R.Y, (~..)~ Now on Youtube ~(..~)
Ceadda Sai bloodyreddots 83	Posted - 2015.03.31 07:37:00 - [3] - Quote Basic to advanced DSs come with mobile CRU as a standard fitting? Forge Gunners: Now this is a gun for going out and and making people miserable with.
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 1604	Posted - 2015.03.31 08:04:00 - [4] - Quote Swarms aren't what brings me down. It is railguns. Because, that's why.
Operative 1174 Uuali Y.A.M.A.H 563	Posted - 2015.03.31 12:28:00 - [5] - Quote Mortishai Belmont wrote: I think the python should be more like a jet and the incubis like a helicopter :3 But that's just me. As to the matter at hand, swarms are basically what rhape dropships, at least a forge gun requires good aim x.x They're both like helicopters. Python is like an attack chopper like the Cobra or Apache. Incubus is like a modded Huey. Death is a serious businessGÇª So is running a shoddy, half-baked game company.
Vyzion Eyri warravens 2699	Posted - 2015.03.31 12:34:00 - [6] - Quote It won't just be dropships in trouble. If there is added incentive to kill vehicles, every merc and his (or her) Neocom will be running AV, vehicles will die regardless of what they are. Have a feeling AV v V will just turn into organised squads stomping 16 randoms running around with swarm launchers looking for a tank. > Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Bahirae Serugiusu Vendetta Reactionary Force 597	Posted - 2015.03.31 12:39:00 - [7] - Quote One day someone will use them as a dropship and not as a gunship. The State will always survive.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. 4421	Posted - 2015.03.31 12:43:00 - [8] - Quote Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote: CCP Frame wrote: AV vs. V event is on the table, yes. We want to take a look at what data hooks we can use for it and then we will do it :) You better fix most of the stuff wrong with the ADS before thinking of a vehicle event. They just broke the HAVs again. Fixing for CCP is nerfing. Disclaimer: The above post is respectful, contains no ranting, contains no personal attacks, contains no trolling, contains no racism, contains no discrimination, contains no profanity, contains no spamming. This post is an opinion and is related to DUST514 CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''
Dandeth Adloth ReDust Inc. 19	Posted - 2015.03.31 16:51:00 - [9] - Quote Dropships in Dust are like Blackhawks, and ADSes are like Little Birds, so no they are not supposed to work like an Apache Longbow.... As soon as you accept that, we can move on!
tal mrak-thanl Aethan Dor 303	Posted - 2015.03.31 17:05:00 - [10] - Quote Bahirae Serugiusu wrote: One day someone will use them as a dropship and not as a gunship. Who cares what you or anybody thinks about how dropships are 'supposed' to be used? It's a flying vehicle with a turret on the front, if someone can painstakingly develop the skill to turn that into an effective anti infantry fit, good for them. Anybody who lets an ADS stick around long enough to cause butthurt is in a squad/ team that REALLY sucks at AV, plain and simple.The entire dropship class is grievously under armoured and suffers from restrictive slot layouts. If one swarmtard can't kill a DS in one clip, boo ******* hoo, you at least made him disengage. If two AVrs working together can't kill a DS in one clip, they suck at AV, and need to just go ahead and deploy in starter fits until they learn to operate the easiest weapons in this game.

Spkr4theDead Red Star. 3151	Posted - 2015.03.31 17:25:00 - [11] - Quote Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote: CCP Frame wrote: AV vs. V event is on the table, yes. We want to take a look at what data hooks we can use for it and then we will do it :) You better fix most of the stuff wrong with the ADS before thinking of a vehicle event. Better fix everything wrong with vehicles before doing an event like that. We still have a ton of bugs while AV doesn't have any. Nope. Confirming that pilot input is not, and never was, valued. - Breakin Stuff
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 3289	Posted - 2015.03.31 17:37:00 - [12] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote: CCP Frame wrote: AV vs. V event is on the table, yes. We want to take a look at what data hooks we can use for it and then we will do it :) You better fix most of the stuff wrong with the ADS before thinking of a vehicle event. Better fix everything wrong with vehicles before doing an event like that. We still have a ton of bugs while AV doesn't have any. The Plasma cannon - refusing to fire or, when it does not accurately indicate when it has reloaded and is charging - begs to differ. Vitantur Nothus wrote: Why hide a solution under frothy pile of derpa? SCV Ready!
Apocalyptic Destroyer L.O.T.I.S. 385	Posted - 2015.03.31 18:03:00 - [13] - Quote tal mrak-thanl wrote: Bahirae Serugiusu wrote: One day someone will use them as a dropship and not as a gunship. Who cares what you or anybody thinks about how dropships are 'supposed' to be used? It's a flying vehicle with a turret on the front, if someone can painstakingly develop the skill to turn that into an effective anti infantry fit, good for them. Anybody who lets an ADS stick around long enough to cause butthurt is in a squad/ team that REALLY sucks at AV, plain and simple.The entire dropship class is grievously under armoured and suffers from restrictive slot layouts. If one swarmtard can't kill a DS in one clip, boo ******* hoo, you at least made him disengage. If two AVrs working together can't kill a DS in one clip, they suck at AV, and need to just go ahead and deploy in starter fits until they learn to operate the easiest weapons in this game. Well put True Amarr In Disguise Pain is weakness leaving the body Proto : ADS Pilot Ak.0 : Mando, Scout, Assault
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 1866	Posted - 2015.03.31 18:03:00 - [14] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote: CCP Frame wrote: AV vs. V event is on the table, yes. We want to take a look at what data hooks we can use for it and then we will do it :) You better fix most of the stuff wrong with the ADS before thinking of a vehicle event. Better fix everything wrong with vehicles before doing an event like that. We still have a ton of bugs while AV doesn't have any. The Plasma cannon - refusing to fire or, when it does not accurately indicate when it has reloaded and is charging - begs to differ. Both av and vehicles has a large amount of annoying bugs. But i begrudgingly have to agree with spkr on this one, the vehicle bugs hurt more. Time for a platform jump. Dust to WiiU!
tal mrak-thanl Aethan Dor 305	Posted - 2015.03.31 18:25:00 - [15] - Quote I just find it incredible that the dev team finally wised up and addressed HAV survivability w/ changes to reps, armor values, core values, slot layouts AND weapon mods, but they won't even comment on dropship threads! We are being engaged with the same weaponry, to the same effect that HAVs were. The only dev comment I've seen re: dropships was "DS piolts are going 20/0, no buff needed". What a load of crap. Maybe some jackass is making new alts every week and tearing up the battle academy with a mlt fit python. In all of the matches I've played since uprising, I've seen an ads pilot go over 10 kills twice. And even if this 20/0 is the case, what the hell kind of justification is that? There are guys going +20/0 in EVERY match w/ an assortment of light weapons.
Apocalyptic Destroyer L.O.T.I.S. 387	Posted - 2015.03.31 18:33:00 - [16] - Quote They just simply hate ADS' let alone CCP Ratatti stated he cant even fly one which gives me the impression of, can he even balance them? True Amarr In Disguise Pain is weakness leaving the body Proto : ADS Pilot Ak.0 : Mando, Scout, Assault
tal mrak-thanl Aethan Dor 307	Posted - 2015.03.31 19:03:00 - [17] - Quote I think it's more than that. Dropships must have been serious shitkickers before my time in dust. I sincerely hope the role gets some attention in the future. Now that I've skilled up and put in a bunch of flight time, it's one of my favorite things to do in this game. The flight mechanics are just fun.
DUST Fiend 16229	Posted - 2015.03.31 19:37:00 - [18] - Quote Bahirae Serugiusu wrote: One day someone will use them as a dropship and not as a gunship. And that day will come as soon as CCP actually programs their game to have a reason to be a transport ship. Only people who use them as transpo are noobs or people trolling around for lulz. Contests, Sales, Writing etc Fly Safe
Thaddeus Reynolds Facepunch Security 244	Posted - 2015.03.31 21:08:00 - [19] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Bahirae Serugiusu wrote: One day someone will use them as a dropship and not as a gunship. And that day will come as soon as CCP actually programs their game to have a reason to be a transport ship. Only people who use them as transpo are noobs or people trolling around for lulz. Or for delivering people into the "Silo" point on the Gallente Lag Facility map for ODST Fun Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper. Vehicle Re-vamp Proposal
Spkr4theDead Red Star. 3155	Posted - 2015.03.31 21:14:00 - [20] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote: CCP Frame wrote: AV vs. V event is on the table, yes. We want to take a look at what data hooks we can use for it and then we will do it :) You better fix most of the stuff wrong with the ADS before thinking of a vehicle event. Better fix everything wrong with vehicles before doing an event like that. We still have a ton of bugs while AV doesn't have any. The Plasma cannon - refusing to fire or, when it does not accurately indicate when it has reloaded and is charging - begs to differ. Boo hoo, big deal. Just get behind a hill and you're fine. Missiles firing 2, 3, 4 or 5 instead of everything while holding the trigger down, both large and small railguns firing until they overheat, small missiles now have that same glitch when on a Python, tanks getting stuck to walls and crates when you bump into them, etc. All of those lead to a premature demise because you can't fight back. Nope. Confirming that pilot input is not, and never was, valued. - Breakin Stuff

Stormblade Green KnightKiller's inc. 67	Posted - 2015.03.31 23:15:00 - [21] - Quote Mortishai Belmont wrote: I think the python should be more like a jet and the incubis like a helicopter :3 But that's just me. As to the matter at hand, swarms are basically what rhape dropships, at least a forge gun requires good aim x.x I fail to see why pilots complain so much about swarms.... One might say... I'm very skilled... yet I'm his apprentice... So what does that say about my mentor?
Lupus Wolf Minmatar Republic 208	Posted - 2015.03.31 23:50:00 - [22] - Quote Stormblade Green wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: I think the python should be more like a jet and the incubis like a helicopter :3 But that's just me. As to the matter at hand, swarms are basically what rhape dropships, at least a forge gun requires good aim x.x I fail to see why pilots complain so much about swarms.... Well, one reason is because the only way to avoid them is if you're already running when they're fired. Redundant Usernames FTW Neigh! Born to fly! Incubi RULE! 30% Logi, 20% Tanker, 50% Pilot
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17898	Posted - 2015.03.31 23:53:00 - [23] - Quote Stormblade Green wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: I think the python should be more like a jet and the incubis like a helicopter :3 But that's just me. As to the matter at hand, swarms are basically what rhape dropships, at least a forge gun requires good aim x.x I fail to see why pilots complain so much about swarms.... They can make very sharp turns and often phase through the ground or objects. Raphael: I'm warning you. Do not leave me here. I will find you. Castiel: Maybe one day. Today you're my little bitch
tal mrak-thanl Aethan Dor 315	Posted - 2015.03.31 23:54:00 - [24] - Quote The problem isn't the swarms, it's the dropships.
Operative 1174 Uuali Y.A.M.A.H 565	Posted - 2015.04.01 02:23:00 - [25] - Quote Bahirae Serugiusu wrote: One day someone will use them as a dropship and not as a gunship. That day will be when maps are big enough that infantry can't just hop, skip and myojump (Oow, cool name. I call it!) to the objectives. I'd love to use dropships for transport and with gunners. Sadly, no one can hit crap with thw turrets and there is no incentive to be a dedicated gunner. The teamwork thing didn't work. This is why the game is tuening to a Quake Arena rumble. Death is a serious businessGÇª So is running a shoddy, half-baked game company.
Apocalyptic Destroyer L.O.T.I.S. 395	Posted - 2015.04.01 13:01:00 - [26] - Quote This is sad, he does hate the ADS ans Dropships as I looked all over "Ratatti's" big board of things" and there's absolutely nothing in there Dropship related. But the possibility of buffing swarms. True Amarr In Disguise Pain is weakness leaving the body Proto : ADS Pilot Ak.0 : Mando, Scout, Assault
Zepod Titans of Phoenix 143	Posted - 2015.04.01 13:05:00 - [27] - Quote Stormblade Green wrote: I fail to see why pilots complain so much about swarms.... Because non-pilots use them, it's viable, and it kills them. You may not like what I said, but it's true. It might anger or offend you, but it's still true.


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