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Michael-J-Fox Richards
The Scope
Gallente Federation
296
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Posted - 2015.03.31 02:50:00 -
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anyone can do it now. with daily missions. salvage and selling. theres no reason anyone cant afford it. man up
I got that john elway arm to proficiency level 5.
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Jonny D Buelle
Mors Effera
846
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Posted - 2015.03.31 02:56:00 -
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Michael-J-Fox Richards wrote:anyone can do it now. with daily missions. salvage and selling. theres no reason anyone cant afford it. man up
In some cases its not the ISK that frustrates people but the SP. Now it is a lot easier than it was a year ago to get SP but it still takes time it get a full proto suit.
I find your lack of heaviness... disturbing...
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Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES
1960
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Posted - 2015.03.31 02:58:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote:Michael-J-Fox Richards wrote:anyone can do it now. with daily missions. salvage and selling. theres no reason anyone cant afford it. man up In some cases its not the ISK that frustrates people but the SP. Now it is a lot easier than it was a year ago to get SP but it still takes time it get a full proto suit.
2 weeks
Crush them
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DRT 99
RAT PATROL INC.
335
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Posted - 2015.03.31 02:58:00 -
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why cant every new player spend literally all of their SP on a single suit and weapon to get them to proto and completely neglect their support skills?
why do new players insist on trivialities like 'trying out different things'. losers. they should be expected to pick up the game and automatically know what weapons and suits they like and skill into them. |
Ace Ravager
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2015.03.31 03:03:00 -
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I have one fully proto Assault CK.0 with Kaalakiota RR.
One restock is 200k isk and thats hard to manage for a player who only has 10mil isk.
That's why you always see me with advanced scout. Not everyone is rich and can buy anything they want like you guys.
Come here for the crack -Sniffs crack-
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Archduke Ferd1nand
Nos Nothi
331
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Posted - 2015.03.31 03:06:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote:Michael-J-Fox Richards wrote:anyone can do it now. with daily missions. salvage and selling. theres no reason anyone cant afford it. man up In some cases its not the ISK that frustrates people but the SP. Now it is a lot easier than it was a year ago to get SP but it still takes time it get a full proto suit.
Yup. 2 1/2 days.
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BLOOD Ruler
VOLKOV INDUSTRIES
1531
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Posted - 2015.03.31 03:08:00 -
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Michael-J-Fox Richards wrote:anyone can do it now. with daily missions. salvage and selling. theres no reason anyone cant afford it. man up
Spoken like a spoil rich, proto using scrub.
Not everyone has the time and money to get & use proto.
How selfish.
There won't be a heart left beating... Is that fear I smell
I'll kill you, I'll kill your family, I'll kill your Stars.
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Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES
1961
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Posted - 2015.03.31 03:11:00 -
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DRT 99 wrote:why cant every new player spend literally all of their SP on a single suit and weapon to get them to proto and completely neglect their support skills? why do new players insist on trivialities like 'trying out different things'. losers. they should be expected to pick up the game and automatically know what weapons and suits they like and skill into them. youre ignoring the weapons, core skills, and real life.
You should have your cores down. Or you were given bad advice. Adv weapon and damage mods will make do for the....what.....the 3 days it takes to get a proto weapon.
Crush them
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
2855
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Posted - 2015.03.31 03:14:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:Michael-J-Fox Richards wrote:anyone can do it now. with daily missions. salvage and selling. theres no reason anyone cant afford it. man up In some cases its not the ISK that frustrates people but the SP. Now it is a lot easier than it was a year ago to get SP but it still takes time it get a full proto suit. 2 weeks
That's just the suit, and its not even then its 2 weeks and change.
Everyone knows it is core skills that make a proto suit good. Those slots are practically nothing without core skills.
Getting cores up takes months of grinding to the SP cap every week. And the entire time, a newb is at a heavy disadvantage.
Home at Last <3
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
3155
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Posted - 2015.03.31 03:35:00 -
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Its not about proto, its about the type of people in it.
A solo running proto will be eaten by all the enemy team saying "I'm going to FCK this guys wallet"
However, a full squad running proto everything will steamroll randoms and squads comprised of a conglomerate of different suits. Proto just multiplies in power running with a squad more than standard or advanced does.
Plasma Cannon :3
Anti-FoTM Prof. V
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Maken Tosch
Dust University
Ivy League
11308
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Posted - 2015.03.31 03:41:00 -
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DRT 99 wrote:why cant every new player spend literally all of their SP on a single suit and weapon to get them to proto and completely neglect their support skills? why do new players insist on trivialities like 'trying out different things'. losers. they should be expected to pick up the game and automatically know what weapons and suits they like and skill into them. youre ignoring the weapons, core skills, and real life.
I'm assuming you're talking about getting the SP needed without spending AUR, correct?
Because if AUR is factored into the equation, then you don't need to wait that long. I have seen people rake in 1 million SP in a single match with stacked boosters and instant boosters.
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Union118
Heaven's Lost Property
518
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Posted - 2015.03.31 04:30:00 -
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Michael-J-Fox Richards wrote:anyone can do it now. with daily missions. salvage and selling. theres no reason anyone cant afford it. man up
I cant keep up with flavor of the month so yea it is hard.
Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
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Gemini Cuspid
147
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Posted - 2015.03.31 04:35:00 -
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Michael-J-Fox Richards wrote:anyone can do it now. with daily missions. salvage and selling. theres no reason anyone cant afford it. man up
Because we're all going to pay money to get aurum to buy boosters? Assuming that were the case it's still core upgrades vs. adv/proto which still lands back to the whole argument of how matchmaking is still not in the works.
Please post something that doesn't bring down the collective IQ of forum posters next time plz... |
DRT 99
RAT PATROL INC.
338
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Posted - 2015.03.31 04:45:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:You should have your cores down. Or you were given bad advice. Adv weapon and damage mods will make do for the....what.....the 3 days it takes to get a proto weapon.
I do have my cores very close to maxed, but new players arent going to have their cores maxed in that 2 week timeframe that you posted before.
Another 3 days for a proto gun with no proficiency, and no proficiency is just lol.
Completely ignoring shield and armor skills.
Im just saying it takes slightly longer than 2 weeks. and by slightly i mean significantly. |
Topher Mellen
Scott-Mellen Corporation
182
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Posted - 2015.03.31 04:57:00 -
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I think something that would go a long way towards fixing this "proto-stomping" problem is a simple "ISK lost/ISK destroyed" stat on the end of match screen. Even though I die a fair amount of times when I run militia gear I know that I am wasting so much more ISK of the prototype players I come up against in a match. Just killing one prototype suit will cost more than all of the militia suits I will usually use in that match. |
Reign Omega
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
1375
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Posted - 2015.03.31 05:19:00 -
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Threads like this I be like....
Same face and everything. Keep on cruisin playa...
Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
General Tso's Alliance
672
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Posted - 2015.03.31 07:30:00 -
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But I have like 8 different suits proto with 8 different weapons proto on each, I think I need a donation homie D:
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VAHZZ
1174
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Posted - 2015.03.31 07:38:00 -
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My proto scrub self dies to BPOs and ADVs, when I run Basic shite and ADV I kill proto, unless I'm going up against another good vet, then I just die. JL3 is mean to me, I need to tell teacher on him!
BRUH.
Closed Beta Vet
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
7768
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Posted - 2015.03.31 07:42:00 -
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If you're saying full proto anyone that doesn't assume the time and effort to go from fresh character to proto with full pro mods and support skills is being disingenuous.
Make a character at zero earned SP and show me a progression to full proto In two weeks.
Oh wait.
It's impossible even with triple stacked omegas in both slots.
Let's up the ante. Two months?.
No... still not enough... oh are you independently wealthy and able to spend 20 hours a week playing DUST?...
hrrrrrn,ngggnggggg
Apparently reality is hard.
AV
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maeth-01 2501
Savage Bullet
General Tso's Alliance
53
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Posted - 2015.03.31 07:51:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:Michael-J-Fox Richards wrote:anyone can do it now. with daily missions. salvage and selling. theres no reason anyone cant afford it. man up In some cases its not the ISK that frustrates people but the SP. Now it is a lot easier than it was a year ago to get SP but it still takes time it get a full proto suit. 2 weeks
Some people have work, family's and just general busy lives..... your welcome to your proto...... if the match making was sorted out we would not have this problem
We need a middle ground for the people that are better than the average player but not willing to do PC...
Laugh, and the world laughs with you;Weep, and you weep alone
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Bremen van Equis
Incorruptibles
291
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Posted - 2015.03.31 11:55:00 -
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WaitGǪpeople are still grinding to the cap? Well here's to having an inoculation against arthritis by the time you kids start feeling the pain. Hopefully your tinfoil hat wearing gluten-free parents won't deny it to youGǪ
Darn kids with their modded reflexes. GET OFF MY LAWN!!
EDIT: Page TWO!!!
Buckle up, boysGǪthis ramp leads to space. -Axe Cop
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Operative 1174 Uuali
Y.A.M.A.H
562
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Posted - 2015.03.31 12:11:00 -
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Michael-J-Fox Richards wrote:anyone can do it now. with daily missions. salvage and selling. theres no reason anyone cant afford it. man up
Lol, yeah ok.
Death is a serious businessGǪ So is running a shoddy, half-baked game company.
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Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H
178
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Posted - 2015.03.31 13:53:00 -
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Michael-J-Fox Richards wrote:anyone can do it now. with daily missions. salvage and selling. theres no reason anyone cant afford it. man up
People play this game as a means to have fun not as a second career. Not everyone can do this
Scr nerf approaches.We shall see who truly knows how to wield God's wrath and heathens who wish to mimic the Amarr......
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
6878
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Posted - 2015.03.31 14:19:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:DRT 99 wrote:why cant every new player spend literally all of their SP on a single suit and weapon to get them to proto and completely neglect their support skills? why do new players insist on trivialities like 'trying out different things'. losers. they should be expected to pick up the game and automatically know what weapons and suits they like and skill into them. youre ignoring the weapons, core skills, and real life. You should have your cores down. Or you were given bad advice. Adv weapon and damage mods will make do for the....what.....the 3 days it takes to get a proto weapon.
What about a new player that started 15 days ago and only has proto grenades? |
Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
10028
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Posted - 2015.03.31 14:37:00 -
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Back in my day getting a proto suit took months and then some if you wanted proficient skills. The only way you could get ISK was through pubs and the color palette on suits weren't boring or gaudy.
As long as 5/6 (83%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
8816
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Posted - 2015.03.31 14:44:00 -
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Getting into a proto dropsuit with core skills IV is not that difficult anymore, even for F2P'ers. Prioritize the daily missions that award SP, sign-in daily, upgrade your SP subsystem in your warbarge as soon as possible.
If you are willing to invest in a 30-day active and passive booster ($15-ish) then you get it even faster.
4 out of 5 dentists agree that orange is not a sound.
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS
414
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Posted - 2015.03.31 15:00:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote:Michael-J-Fox Richards wrote:anyone can do it now. with daily missions. salvage and selling. theres no reason anyone cant afford it. man up In some cases its not the ISK that frustrates people but the SP. Now it is a lot easier than it was a year ago to get SP but it still takes time it get a full proto suit.
A full proto suit can be gotten by a newbie in 2 weeks with a full set of triple stacked boosters and a couple of instant boosts on good matches.
It frustrates people because even when they get proto and grind the isk / lp to pay for it they still get stomped into the ground by OP teamwork.
NERF TEAMWORK SO NO ONE GETS STOMPED. Oh wait we are already doing that by going to 4 man squads in pubs.
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Yeeeuuuupppp
980
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Posted - 2015.03.31 15:02:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:DRT 99 wrote:why cant every new player spend literally all of their SP on a single suit and weapon to get them to proto and completely neglect their support skills? why do new players insist on trivialities like 'trying out different things'. losers. they should be expected to pick up the game and automatically know what weapons and suits they like and skill into them. youre ignoring the weapons, core skills, and real life. You should have your cores down. Or you were given bad advice. Adv weapon and damage mods will make do for the....what.....the 3 days it takes to get a proto weapon.
If you're not **** it shouldn't even take that long unless you want proficiency
Sheeba Sheeba
PSN: GMANCASH
"I played Dust so long i grew a f--king afro"
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maeth-01 2501
Savage Bullet
General Tso's Alliance
55
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Posted - 2015.04.02 20:14:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:Michael-J-Fox Richards wrote:anyone can do it now. with daily missions. salvage and selling. theres no reason anyone cant afford it. man up In some cases its not the ISK that frustrates people but the SP. Now it is a lot easier than it was a year ago to get SP but it still takes time it get a full proto suit. 2 weeks
you spend 30 mil just in upgrades to get to level 5, then another 5 or 6 mil to proto a light weapon of your choice.... then you still have you side arm and dropsuit to do.....
this is what the new players come up against and then drive's them away
Laugh, and the world laughs with you;Weep, and you weep alone
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Thor Odinson42
Negative-Feedback
6419
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Posted - 2015.04.02 20:24:00 -
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maeth-01 2501 wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:Michael-J-Fox Richards wrote:anyone can do it now. with daily missions. salvage and selling. theres no reason anyone cant afford it. man up In some cases its not the ISK that frustrates people but the SP. Now it is a lot easier than it was a year ago to get SP but it still takes time it get a full proto suit. 2 weeks you spend 30 mil just in upgrades to get to level 5, then another 5 or 6 mil to proto a light weapon of your choice.... then you still have you side arm and dropsuit to do..... this is what the new players come up against and then drive's them away
21.5 Mil SP I think to max the essentials in DS Upgrades
1.24 Mil SP for proto light weapon and sidearm (no prof or other upgrades)
2.4 Mil for proto suit
1.5 Mil for proto grenades
But in all honesty you don't need nearly that much into DS upgrades for a single specialized role. Choose Amarr or Gallente as Armor isn't nearly the investment that Shields are. |
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Michael-J-Fox Richards
The Scope
Gallente Federation
303
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Posted - 2015.04.02 21:22:00 -
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i havent capped since last november. i dont even get to log in somedays. and i run expensive and solo always at end of the day im ahead. ya'll the type of crybabies that say KDR aint important
I got that john elway arm to proficiency level 5.
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Forced Death
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
342
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Posted - 2015.04.02 21:35:00 -
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Reason 1. I can't afford it
Reason 2. I can only play on weekends, thus, restricting me to 200k a week
derp
Death by laser is imminent
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CLONE117
True Pros Forever
896
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Posted - 2015.04.02 22:16:00 -
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no one should need to use proto gear in the first place.
plus. i got gta 5 and have a lot of fun things to do. other than blowing up trash talking morons with a tank. which is still fun. i usually stop when they stop trash talking or shut the hell up and leave the session.
if only we could pilot the mcc.
id end the matches real quick.
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Thaddeus Reynolds
Facepunch Security
255
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Posted - 2015.04.03 00:07:00 -
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Got a question, a lot of the anti-proto people I see around like to complain about being picked up by anything other than a proto-needle, or repped by anything other than a proto-rep...so...where exactly is the line for ya'll for proto drawn?
Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper.
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