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Juno Tristan
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Posted - 2015.03.30 00:50:00 -
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Switch proficiency to the offside stat, suddenly you're not trying to balance 135%+ damage scrambler rifles and swarm launchers
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DRT 99
RAT PATROL INC.
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Posted - 2015.03.30 01:02:00 -
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the more i though about it the more i agree.
Lasers and explosives +20 -5, Hybrids +10 +5.
Also reinforces the fact that hybrids are... hybrids. Also a pretty hefty buff for the AR in the current armor meta |
WeapondigitX V7
The Exemplars
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Posted - 2015.03.30 01:03:00 -
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You may not get extremes in damage to tank types, but that will negate any important reasons that currently exist for using armor or shield tanks against certain weapons since the damage will be so similar.
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DRT 99
RAT PATROL INC.
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Posted - 2015.03.30 03:27:00 -
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i'd gladly take less extreme damage types over less bullsh*t instant SCR kills when im using a shield suit. |
Alena Ventrallis
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.03.30 03:51:00 -
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I would rather a straight damage buff, but reduce the total damage buff at level 5 from 15% to say... 10%, or even 7.5%.
Ideally, proficiency wouldn't affect damage at all and would simply enhance the weapon some other way, but that would be a huge balance pass over all weapons.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.03.30 07:03:00 -
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Won't this just further encourage hybrid tanking since it will effectively push all weapons to near neutral damage on the off-type? You will literally never be significantly resistant to any damage type, but still weak to certain ones.
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Juno Tristan
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Posted - 2015.03.30 07:59:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Won't this just further encourage hybrid tanking since it will effectively push all weapons to near neutral damage on the off-type? You will literally never be significantly resistant to any damage type, but still weak to certain ones.
I would think the opposite would be true
Caldari currently running plates to stand a chance against lasers and Gallente scouts running extenders to avoid mass drivers/grenades
Why would you not play to your strengths, Caldari running shield regs in lows can quickly regain full health, running plates means enemies may have already closed the distance by the time your shield regeneration starts.
I'm sure some people will still do both, but this will benefit new players to learn the race doctrine and require less sp (don't have to get armour/shield modules both up to 5)
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.03.30 08:19:00 -
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Juno Tristan wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Won't this just further encourage hybrid tanking since it will effectively push all weapons to near neutral damage on the off-type? You will literally never be significantly resistant to any damage type, but still weak to certain ones. I would think the opposite would be true Caldari currently running plates to stand a chance against lasers and Gallente scouts running extenders to avoid mass drivers/grenades Why would you not play to your strengths, Caldari running shield regs in lows can quickly regain full health, running plates means enemies may have already closed the distance by the time your shield regeneration starts. I'm sure some people will still do both, but this will benefit new players to learn the race doctrine and require less sp (don't have to get armour/shield modules both up to 5)
Except conversely, Caldari can laugh at Explosive weapons. Under your system, Caldari would not longer be resistant to explosive, meaning that they are basically weak or barely resistant against everything. That being said you would be encouraged to simply stack as much HP as possible because in all situations, you are never resistant to anything.
At least as Caldari you know that you'll be able to handle Explosive, Kinetic, and Rail well, in exchange you're very weak against 2 of the 5 profiles.
I guess personally would rather be super weak against 2-3 profiles and resistant to 2-3, instead of weak against 2-3 profiles and not resistant to 2-3.
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Juno Tristan
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Posted - 2015.03.30 08:41:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Juno Tristan wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Won't this just further encourage hybrid tanking since it will effectively push all weapons to near neutral damage on the off-type? You will literally never be significantly resistant to any damage type, but still weak to certain ones. I would think the opposite would be true Caldari currently running plates to stand a chance against lasers and Gallente scouts running extenders to avoid mass drivers/grenades Why would you not play to your strengths, Caldari running shield regs in lows can quickly regain full health, running plates means enemies may have already closed the distance by the time your shield regeneration starts. I'm sure some people will still do both, but this will benefit new players to learn the race doctrine and require less sp (don't have to get armour/shield modules both up to 5) Except conversely, Caldari can laugh at Explosive weapons. Under your system, Caldari would not longer be resistant to explosive, meaning that they are basically weak or barely resistant against everything. That being said you would be encouraged to simply stack as much HP as possible because in all situations, you are never resistant to anything. At least as Caldari you know that you'll be able to handle Explosive, Kinetic, and Rail well, in exchange you're very weak against 2 of the 5 profiles. I guess personally would rather be super weak against 2-3 profiles and resistant to 2-3, instead of weak against 2-3 profiles and not resistant to 2-3.
Don't get me wrong, I love laughing off MD rounds in my Cal Sent, but this is more inspired by Rattati's Normalize AV damage type thread.
If balancing extreme profiles requires so much more effort, which could be better spent working on PC, then this could be a solution
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