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Lavallois Nash wrote:

The Dark Cloud wrote:

doubt it that it would destroy player trading cause the trading that Ratatti has in mind is you send the item and then receive ISK. Not like on eve where you have a marketplace, put your item on the table with a pricetag and wait till somebody comes by and purchases it.

This affects retail operations, not the laws of supply and demand. Just because the product is harder to get to market reliably doesnt mean its value is not affected by supply and demand.

The Dark Cloud wrote:

PC district farming is real and it still generates ALOT of ISK. And that ISK will be used to monopolise playertrading. If you dont see that then you need a reality check. Another thing is there is allready a steady influx of officer weapons and suits cause the warbarge produces them every day.

The only thing that will be somewhat worth might be the specialised gear from FW. Ya know the 5 sec uplinks. proto weapons with ADV fitting costs etc. Thats where ISK will be made cause those weapon variants are avaible on the market and grant a excessive fitting advantage.

<-------- Ive done my math and research. PC corps have an advantage due to the weight of their membership and the volume of their existing resources. But a monopoly? Not so sure about that. Due to the close collaboration in Molden Heath, and the fact plenty of corps have people from other corps in their ranks, theres going to be alot of inter-Alliance, inter- corp and inter-Molden Heath exchanging. This means alot of the best resources will be used exclusively among other PC corps.

Not to mention with PC changes, such as district resources and raiding, not so sure selling Amarrian uplinks or Gallente proto rifles will be profitable enough to take teams off raiding/raid patrol to go farm FW. Cause in order for it to be profitable at its maximum, youll need people with high standing or boosters. You could use your entry level membership, but that might also cause more losses than wins (depending on faction), which could hamper profitability.

So overall, i dont expect PC corps to be a critical supplier or market. I expect them to be a very important market and supplier that people will flock to buy and sell to, but because of what i listed above, they will fall short unless they convert from a PC corp to a merchant corp. The only way you could have the best of both worlds is if the PC corp had a "wholly owned subsidiary" operating under a different brand as a merchant corp. But even then, its fate could be tied to the political fate of its parent corp.

The Dark Cloud wrote:

And lol BPO's you can purchase allmost any BPO in the game stright from the marketplace allready. You really think you will get 100 million ISK+ for a apex suit? You might get somewhere around 50 mil and thats it cause allmost every guy on this game has one of them allready.

Ive already made arrangements to sell a FW BPO to someone once the option is available. i wont discuss the exact price, cause the other person hasnt consented to me publicly posting the details of our deal, but its in the ballpark of the second figure. I guarantee you no one who ive talked to (potential buyers, other traders) has said anything remotely close to 100mil for a APEX BPO.


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Knightshade Belladonna Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 989	Posted - 2015.03.29 15:48:00 - [1] - Quote seeing as they are 800 aur each , bundled 10 pack 6k.... your talkin a lot of aurum/cash to get that. It has stuff in there worth up to 45-50k aurum... soooooo.. 200k+ aurum.. tbh though, doubt it would ever happen.
Knightshade Belladonna Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 989	Posted - 2015.03.29 16:04:00 - [2] - Quote Drogan Reeth wrote: Jack Boost wrote: Rich get more richer... Constant oficer stuff gain and reseling at market... not good... but who cares if CCP need money What diffrence does it make, I'm at 400mil + and rising, most ppl's money will never go down. Plus I easily have 1bil + worth of assets since I've been collecting since the beginning of time and have never sold. At this point Isk is just a number, noone will run out. So there is no point in balancing based on isk at this point. Unless ofcourse you're trying to balance it so the noobs, will stay poor and can't challenge the proto vets. Cause you sure as hell ain't trying to balance the vets, which already run proto 100% of the time. Not entirely true you can't still have everything since beginning of time, I recall one point of having all items in inventory that I was not skilled into , mostly tanks and stuff that was removed from our inventories and replaced with a nice fat paycheck from ccp
Knightshade Belladonna Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 989	Posted - 2015.03.29 17:20:00 - [3] - Quote Lavallois Nash wrote: The Dark Cloud wrote: doubt it that it would destroy player trading cause the trading that Ratatti has in mind is you send the item and then receive ISK. Not like on eve where you have a marketplace, put your item on the table with a pricetag and wait till somebody comes by and purchases it. This affects retail operations, not the laws of supply and demand. Just because the product is harder to get to market reliably doesnt mean its value is not affected by supply and demand. The Dark Cloud wrote: PC district farming is real and it still generates ALOT of ISK. And that ISK will be used to monopolise playertrading. If you dont see that then you need a reality check. Another thing is there is allready a steady influx of officer weapons and suits cause the warbarge produces them every day. The only thing that will be somewhat worth might be the specialised gear from FW. Ya know the 5 sec uplinks. proto weapons with ADV fitting costs etc. Thats where ISK will be made cause those weapon variants are avaible on the market and grant a excessive fitting advantage. <-------- Ive done my math and research. PC corps have an advantage due to the weight of their membership and the volume of their existing resources. But a monopoly? Not so sure about that. Due to the close collaboration in Molden Heath, and the fact plenty of corps have people from other corps in their ranks, theres going to be alot of inter-Alliance, inter- corp and inter-Molden Heath exchanging. This means alot of the best resources will be used exclusively among other PC corps. Not to mention with PC changes, such as district resources and raiding, not so sure selling Amarrian uplinks or Gallente proto rifles will be profitable enough to take teams off raiding/raid patrol to go farm FW. Cause in order for it to be profitable at its maximum, youll need people with high standing or boosters. You could use your entry level membership, but that might also cause more losses than wins (depending on faction), which could hamper profitability. So overall, i dont expect PC corps to be a critical supplier or market. I expect them to be a very important market and supplier that people will flock to buy and sell to, but because of what i listed above, they will fall short unless they convert from a PC corp to a merchant corp. The only way you could have the best of both worlds is if the PC corp had a "wholly owned subsidiary" operating under a different brand as a merchant corp. But even then, its fate could be tied to the political fate of its parent corp. The Dark Cloud wrote: And lol BPO's you can purchase allmost any BPO in the game stright from the marketplace allready. You really think you will get 100 million ISK+ for a apex suit? You might get somewhere around 50 mil and thats it cause allmost every guy on this game has one of them allready. Ive already made arrangements to sell a FW BPO to someone once the option is available. i wont discuss the exact price, cause the other person hasnt consented to me publicly posting the details of our deal, but its in the ballpark of the second figure. I guarantee you no one who ive talked to (potential buyers, other traders) has said anything remotely close to 100mil for a APEX BPO. I hope those FW bpo are tradeable on player market when it launches, if ever.. I want a couple of the federation ones but nooooooooooooooo can't get a fkn FW match but once an hour if i'm lucky..and If I lose, I get a whopping 200 LP or some **** :\ I got lots of isk though, plenty of it.. so if I don't start rolling in LP by then i'll certainly be a buyer of them... not at 100 mil , but i'd make a pretty solid offer.