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The Dark Cloud
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Posted - 2015.03.28 17:35:00 -
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There is no other weapon which does this insane amount of damage towards shields and this is not acceptable in any way cause there is no rifle which has the opposite inversed damage profile. Yes there are niche weapons like the massdriver which deal +20% vs armor but the DPS on that is just pitifull and you might want to consider shoting yourself into the foot with it.
For the sake of every shield tanked dropsuit give it a +10% vs shields and -10% on armor like the assault rifle has. That one weapon singlehandedly makes the choice to use any caldari suit pointless. The minmatarr have it a bit better cause they are dual tanking or make use of their matrix neo skills to dodge all incoming bullets.
You can keep the profile on the laser rifle cause its a niche weapon like the massdriver. But the scrambler has long+short range capabilitys and wrecks shield suits too easy. I for example have proficency 5 on it and when i aim at some 1 shields i get a 142% efficency against it.
To make my point: a proto scrambler with no damage mods on it will deal a whopping 101,53HP damage towards shields. So you can take out a proto cal assault that has around 600HP shields with 6 shots. 6 DAMN SHOTS FROM A GUN THAT FIRES AT 600 ROUNDS PER MINUTE!
If this doesnt get fixed then i want a tactical rail rifle that deals 150HP damage and shots at 400 rounds per minute. Sounds fair to me to be aible to kill a 800 armor HP amarr assault in 5-6 shots.
I make the scrubs scream and the vets cry.
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Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H
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Posted - 2015.03.28 21:19:00 -
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Yeah yeah yeah nerf ScR. We get it
Rattati himself said it's getting a nerf. Start celebrating
There are a few weapons I have yet to master; mass driver, nova knives,ion pistol,flay lock pistol and the magsec
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Inc.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.03.29 01:51:00 -
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The Dark Cloud wrote:There is no other weapon which does this insane amount of damage towards shields and this is not acceptable in any way cause there is no rifle which has the opposite inversed damage profile. Yes there are niche weapons like the massdriver which deal +20% vs armor but the DPS on that is just pitifull and you might want to consider shoting yourself into the foot with it.
For the sake of every shield tanked dropsuit give it a +10% vs shields and -10% on armor like the assault rifle has. That one weapon singlehandedly makes the choice to use any caldari suit pointless. The minmatarr have it a bit better cause they are dual tanking or make use of their matrix neo skills to dodge all incoming bullets.
You can keep the profile on the laser rifle cause its a niche weapon like the massdriver. But the scrambler has long+short range capabilitys and wrecks shield suits too easy. I for example have proficency 5 on it and when i aim at some 1 shields i get a 142% efficency against it.
To make my point: a proto scrambler with no damage mods on it will deal a whopping 101,53HP damage towards shields. So you can take out a proto cal assault that has around 600HP shields with 6 shots. 6 DAMN SHOTS FROM A GUN THAT FIRES AT 600 ROUNDS PER MINUTE!
If this doesnt get fixed then i want a tactical rail rifle that deals 150HP damage and shots at 400 rounds per minute. Sounds fair to me to be aible to kill a 800 armor HP amarr assault in 5-6 shots.
Something I agree with you on.....I have actually said this plenty of times.
If there is a shield weapon that deals damage like this and it's not going to change...then give me single shot combat rifle that's equivalent.
Shield tanking is hard mode /period.
> Check RND out here
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Archduke Ferd1nand
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.03.29 03:11:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:The Dark Cloud wrote:There is no other weapon which does this insane amount of damage towards shields and this is not acceptable in any way cause there is no rifle which has the opposite inversed damage profile. Yes there are niche weapons like the massdriver which deal +20% vs armor but the DPS on that is just pitifull and you might want to consider shoting yourself into the foot with it.
For the sake of every shield tanked dropsuit give it a +10% vs shields and -10% on armor like the assault rifle has. That one weapon singlehandedly makes the choice to use any caldari suit pointless. The minmatarr have it a bit better cause they are dual tanking or make use of their matrix neo skills to dodge all incoming bullets.
You can keep the profile on the laser rifle cause its a niche weapon like the massdriver. But the scrambler has long+short range capabilitys and wrecks shield suits too easy. I for example have proficency 5 on it and when i aim at some 1 shields i get a 142% efficency against it.
To make my point: a proto scrambler with no damage mods on it will deal a whopping 101,53HP damage towards shields. So you can take out a proto cal assault that has around 600HP shields with 6 shots. 6 DAMN SHOTS FROM A GUN THAT FIRES AT 600 ROUNDS PER MINUTE!
If this doesnt get fixed then i want a tactical rail rifle that deals 150HP damage and shots at 400 rounds per minute. Sounds fair to me to be aible to kill a 800 armor HP amarr assault in 5-6 shots. Something I agree with you on.....I have actually said this plenty of times. If there is a shield weapon that deals damage like this and it's not going to change...then give me single shot combat rifle that's equivalent.
30 rounds in the chamber
600 RPM
72 damage per shot
BRB, looking for socks
Asslut Rifles OP, anal now
I shit shotgun shells and piss Remote Explosives
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Faquira Bleuetta
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
485
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Posted - 2015.03.29 05:14:00 -
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The Dark Cloud wrote:There is no other weapon which does this insane amount of damage towards shields and this is not acceptable in any way cause there is no rifle which has the opposite inversed damage profile. Yes there are niche weapons like the massdriver which deal +20% vs armor but the DPS on that is just pitifull and you might want to consider shoting yourself into the foot with it.
For the sake of every shield tanked dropsuit give it a +10% vs shields and -10% on armor like the assault rifle has. That one weapon singlehandedly makes the choice to use any caldari suit pointless. The minmatarr have it a bit better cause they are dual tanking or make use of their matrix neo skills to dodge all incoming bullets.
You can keep the profile on the laser rifle cause its a niche weapon like the massdriver. But the scrambler has long+short range capabilitys and wrecks shield suits too easy. I for example have proficency 5 on it and when i aim at some 1 shields i get a 142% efficency against it.
To make my point: a proto scrambler with no damage mods on it will deal a whopping 101,53HP damage towards shields. So you can take out a proto cal assault that has around 600HP shields with 6 shots. 6 DAMN SHOTS FROM A GUN THAT FIRES AT 600 ROUNDS PER MINUTE!
If this doesnt get fixed then i want a tactical rail rifle that deals 150HP damage and shots at 400 rounds per minute. Sounds fair to me to be aible to kill a 800 armor HP amarr assault in 5-6 shots.
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nelo kazuma
Da Short Buss Driving School
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Posted - 2015.03.29 06:05:00 -
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Georgia Xavier wrote:Yeah yeah yeah nerf ScR. We get it
Rattati himself said it's getting a nerf. Start celebrating
Where did they say they last I heard they were leaving it be cuz no one used it. Im not opposed to damage balancing but I think a rate of fire nerf would be more appropriate so it would still be effective long range with charge shot but less useful up close but eh could go either way |
Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H
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Posted - 2015.03.29 06:07:00 -
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nelo kazuma wrote:Georgia Xavier wrote:Yeah yeah yeah nerf ScR. We get it
Rattati himself said it's getting a nerf. Start celebrating Where did they say they last I heard they were leaving it be cuz no one used it. Im not opposed to damage balancing but I think a rate of fire nerf would be more appropriate so it would still be effective long range with charge shot but less useful up close but eh could go either way
Here you go:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=197484
I'm still hurt because its probably the weapon I spent most time on but if its what keeps the game balanced then I suppose its a necessary evil
There are a few weapons I have yet to master; mass driver, nova knives,ion pistol,flay lock pistol and the magsec
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
2834
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Posted - 2015.03.29 09:10:00 -
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Archduke Ferd1nand wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:The Dark Cloud wrote:There is no other weapon which does this insane amount of damage towards shields and this is not acceptable in any way cause there is no rifle which has the opposite inversed damage profile. Yes there are niche weapons like the massdriver which deal +20% vs armor but the DPS on that is just pitifull and you might want to consider shoting yourself into the foot with it.
For the sake of every shield tanked dropsuit give it a +10% vs shields and -10% on armor like the assault rifle has. That one weapon singlehandedly makes the choice to use any caldari suit pointless. The minmatarr have it a bit better cause they are dual tanking or make use of their matrix neo skills to dodge all incoming bullets.
You can keep the profile on the laser rifle cause its a niche weapon like the massdriver. But the scrambler has long+short range capabilitys and wrecks shield suits too easy. I for example have proficency 5 on it and when i aim at some 1 shields i get a 142% efficency against it.
To make my point: a proto scrambler with no damage mods on it will deal a whopping 101,53HP damage towards shields. So you can take out a proto cal assault that has around 600HP shields with 6 shots. 6 DAMN SHOTS FROM A GUN THAT FIRES AT 600 ROUNDS PER MINUTE!
If this doesnt get fixed then i want a tactical rail rifle that deals 150HP damage and shots at 400 rounds per minute. Sounds fair to me to be aible to kill a 800 armor HP amarr assault in 5-6 shots. Something I agree with you on.....I have actually said this plenty of times. If there is a shield weapon that deals damage like this and it's not going to change...then give me single shot combat rifle that's equivalent. 30 rounds in the chamber 600 RPM 72 damage per shot
1.) "30 rounds in the chamber"...chamber? Really? How big is the reciever on this weapon?
Lol.
2.) A 30 round mag(I assume you meant mag) without overheat would be ludicrously OP especially since that is more damage per shot than the TacAR.
Just another anti-ScR bullshitter that has absolutely no idea what he is talking about...
When will you guys come up with real arguments besides stating paper DPS and crying that is pops shields? I suppose this new " argument" where you guys demand an even more powerful weapon for yourselves is sorta new...
Even Ratattis argument is paper thin at best. No evidence. Just his word. He must be mad about getting stomped by better players too. What a scrub.
Home at Last <3
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Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H
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Posted - 2015.03.29 09:30:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Archduke Ferd1nand wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:The Dark Cloud wrote:There is no other weapon which does this insane amount of damage towards shields and this is not acceptable in any way cause there is no rifle which has the opposite inversed damage profile. Yes there are niche weapons like the massdriver which deal +20% vs armor but the DPS on that is just pitifull and you might want to consider shoting yourself into the foot with it.
For the sake of every shield tanked dropsuit give it a +10% vs shields and -10% on armor like the assault rifle has. That one weapon singlehandedly makes the choice to use any caldari suit pointless. The minmatarr have it a bit better cause they are dual tanking or make use of their matrix neo skills to dodge all incoming bullets.
You can keep the profile on the laser rifle cause its a niche weapon like the massdriver. But the scrambler has long+short range capabilitys and wrecks shield suits too easy. I for example have proficency 5 on it and when i aim at some 1 shields i get a 142% efficency against it.
To make my point: a proto scrambler with no damage mods on it will deal a whopping 101,53HP damage towards shields. So you can take out a proto cal assault that has around 600HP shields with 6 shots. 6 DAMN SHOTS FROM A GUN THAT FIRES AT 600 ROUNDS PER MINUTE!
If this doesnt get fixed then i want a tactical rail rifle that deals 150HP damage and shots at 400 rounds per minute. Sounds fair to me to be aible to kill a 800 armor HP amarr assault in 5-6 shots. Something I agree with you on.....I have actually said this plenty of times. If there is a shield weapon that deals damage like this and it's not going to change...then give me single shot combat rifle that's equivalent. 30 rounds in the chamber 600 RPM 72 damage per shot 1.) "30 rounds in the chamber"...chamber? Really? How big is the reciever on this weapon? Lol. 2.) A 30 round mag(I assume you meant mag) without overheat would be ludicrously OP especially since that is more damage per shot than the TacAR. Just another anti-ScR bullshitter that has absolutely no idea what he is talking about... When will you guys come up with real arguments besides stating paper DPS and crying that is pops shields? I suppose this new " argument" where you guys demand an even more powerful weapon for yourselves is sorta new... Even Ratattis argument is paper thin at best. No evidence. Just his word. He must be mad about getting stomped by better players too. What a scrub.
Now Now lets not be too hasty in calling people scrubs. Rattati MAY have a valid reason here. I am a die hard ScR user but he might be onto something with the nerf. Weed out the bandwagoners perhaps?
There are a few weapons I have yet to master; mass driver, nova knives,ion pistol,flay lock pistol and the magsec
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