DUST Search - Petition to stop moon jumping ****$

Cypher Nil wrote:

Victor889 wrote:

Right, this stupid jumping thing is in the game and looks like it will stay for the rest of the duration of however long this game lasts for and I am not the only person who detests it.

I genuinely think a really good idea - to make it a little 'fair-er' - would be to stop people being able to fire while doing it.

Wasn't the whole idea to add another layer onto the game so and people could use it to get rid of spawn pads, or plant their own, and provide better mobility over the terrain for perhaps heavies and make the scouts better at.. well scouting.

I really think stopping these morons who take advantage of a broken game mechanic, let's face it - the shooting mechanics in this game aren't fantastic when people are able to move as fast as they do - it does make it very disjointed when every 'fair' one on one fight comes down to who can strafe in circles or left to right whilst maintaining a better hit rate than the other person will win..

If you weren't able to fire, you could use it for manoeuvring as was (hopefully) it's intention, and I guess escaping, although it's frustrating as hell to get the drop on someone only to have them bound 30 feet into the air, turn around midway and unload on you while you have little to no way of retaliating due to the aim assist weirdness and couple that with the rotation speed of the suit you are in. And that, in my opinion, would make it less of a douche-y, cheap, scummy, cheating mechanic of try-hards.

tl;dnr: stop people being able to fire while jumping, less rage will occur.

Thoughts?

I just want to see it given its own branch in the skill tree as a suit jetpack mod, why should you get the jump AND melee damage

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nelo kazuma Da Short Buss Driving School 59	Posted - 2015.03.27 12:37:00 - [31] - Quote ROMULUS H3X wrote: I don't fire Plasma Cannon's with my toes (as much as I wish I could), untill then I don't see why we wouldn't be able to fire while jumping... Your whole screen shakes while you are jumping by the way and is almost a miracle to hit someone directly during this process, vice versa, it is not impossible for others to shoot you. In fact, I have forged and plasma cannoned people jumping through the air as well as seen snipers pick some of these jumpers out of the sky..... If that can happen then I don't see how people can complain. Motion to remove jumpers, denied. Reasoning: Lack of evidence to favor your judgement. Agree completly full auto weapons like assualt rifle or assault rr are good counters people who use single shot or burst ones whining the most cuz their aim is pitiful and dont know how to look up their used to strafe wars _\|_ (-_-)
al nize mk2 No Skillz inc. 346	Posted - 2015.03.27 12:47:00 - [32] - Quote Victor889 wrote: Right, this stupid jumping thing is in the game and looks like it will stay for the rest of the duration of however long this game lasts for and I am not the only person who detests it. tl;dnr: stop people being able to fire while jumping, less rage will occur. Thoughts? Don't agree. I haven't skilled into it so I'm not a jumper at the moment - but it doesn't upset me. It adds something new - you can't just loiter high up without risk on many of the maps. Remember that jumpers have had to nerf something else in order to get high. I just shoot them in mid-air and chuckle... It's a fine mechanic. GÇ£All that I know most surely about morality and obligations I owe to football.GÇ¥
Victor889 warravens 238	Posted - 2015.03.27 13:01:00 - [33] - Quote ROMULUS H3X wrote: I don't fire Plasma Cannon's with my toes (as much as I wish I could), untill then I don't see why we wouldn't be able to fire while jumping... Your whole screen shakes while you are jumping by the way and is almost a miracle to hit someone directly during this process, vice versa, it is not impossible for others to shoot you. In fact, I have forged and plasma cannoned people jumping through the air as well as seen snipers pick some of these jumpers out of the sky..... If that can happen then I don't see how people can complain. Motion to remove jumpers, denied. Reasoning: Lack of evidence to favor your judgement. I didn't say anything about removing the jumpers Part time Logi, Full time heavy.
Victor889 warravens 238	Posted - 2015.03.27 13:03:00 - [34] - Quote Yeeeuuuupppp wrote: No, it's fun and pretty easy to counter homie. Pull out the ole cr and start shooting at them on the way down. Or when they are low hp from your boring gun fight on the ground and try to jump away just blap them. Also, turn up your Y sensitivity Probably a decent suggestion actually, part of the problem is on full tilt the turning still isn't fast or accurate enough to track these fools, maybe I'll start there. Most of the problem comes when you get multiple people (like full squads all running round together bouncing all over the shop) doing it but then if you are coming across a full squad, most of the time you're going to die anyway. Part time Logi, Full time heavy.
Thor Odinson42 Negative-Feedback 6350	Posted - 2015.03.27 13:05:00 - [35] - Quote I settled on two fibs. As much fun as it is to really get up there, I don't think it's effective vs anyone that can aim. Two keeps me from getting hung up on stupid terrain and gets me on top of some crates. I think the fibs are great because campers have to call in a vehicle to get high enough to feel safe.
al nize mk2 No Skillz inc. 346	Posted - 2015.03.27 13:17:00 - [36] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: I think the fibs are great because campers have to call in a vehicle to get high enough to feel safe. I feel the same about the jumping - it's given campers something to think about. Nothing wrong with leaping around (I don't do it yet myself) now where are the jetpacks? GÇ£All that I know most surely about morality and obligations I owe to football.GÇ¥
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 8763	Posted - 2015.03.27 13:26:00 - [37] - Quote Preventing players from firing while jumping is a bit extreme. I would rather see the modules' base jump height increase reduced. Vrain's suggestion of an dispersion increase while jumping makes sense, but that doesn't really effect the weapons I see primarily being spammed by myofib jumpers: MD, PLC, and flaylock pistol. Mentioning yet again how a passive module that grants this much of a jump height increase is a terrible idea... 4 out of 5 dentists agree that orange is not a sound.
Green Means Go Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 45	Posted - 2015.03.27 19:43:00 - [38] - Quote i have been "one shotted" over 100 times in 'mid air' by a sniper while in my bunny suit. They are EASILY put down. I am hoping they increase the jump hight.... or give me a 7 high drop suit..... I want to fly off the ground like ironman.
DozersMouse XIII molon labe. General Tso's Alliance 1018	Posted - 2015.03.27 19:51:00 - [39] - Quote I was against it and for it The problem is not the jumping but the way ccp introduced it We can't settle for a silly jump mod because the fact is ccp needs to fix the actual jump height on suits The way it is now low level players cannot do why we are doing with the Myro mods because they don't have the high slots to accomplish it some starter fits/militia frames have zero high slots Tbh the myro mod change was just a sloppy way of fixing the scrappy jump heights Shotgun me once, shame on me Shotgun me twice, scans on you
CLONE117 True Pros Forever 892	Posted - 2015.03.27 20:26:00 - [40] - Quote so now the game has bunny hopping?. honestly if all those game shooting mechanics and other game mechanics got fixed. i would literally wipe the floor with so many people. with the ole mlt starter fits. on some relatively even ground of course. id probably even be capable of single handedly defending and capturing points again. but even if those mechanics were fixed. i still probably wouldnt come back. unless a decent and lore involved pve is released. i still dont know why i even bother to sign in to these forums anymore. the potential that once existed is squandered. the only way it can be renewed and revived from the dead will be when some1 steps up and makes an actual smart decision that benefits the game and actually improves upon it. i have observed several classes for these forums. idiots, people who actually intend good for the game, and then idiots who rally lots of support because they are pretending they are doing something that actually benefits the game. if only we could pilot the mcc. id end the matches real quick.

Knightshade Belladonna Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 976	Posted - 2015.03.27 20:58:00 - [41] - Quote Hrm.. if they are moving around and you can't shoot them..wouldn't it be that much harder for them to hit you also? Now the ones using that and remote explosive are pretty damn annoying though, I'll admit that ..them sly bastards
ROMULUS H3X research lab 467	Posted - 2015.03.28 05:02:00 - [42] - Quote Cypher Nil wrote: Victor889 wrote: Right, this stupid jumping thing is in the game and looks like it will stay for the rest of the duration of however long this game lasts for and I am not the only person who detests it. I genuinely think a really good idea - to make it a little 'fair-er' - would be to stop people being able to fire while doing it. Wasn't the whole idea to add another layer onto the game so and people could use it to get rid of spawn pads, or plant their own, and provide better mobility over the terrain for perhaps heavies and make the scouts better at.. well scouting. I really think stopping these morons who take advantage of a broken game mechanic, let's face it - the shooting mechanics in this game aren't fantastic when people are able to move as fast as they do - it does make it very disjointed when every 'fair' one on one fight comes down to who can strafe in circles or left to right whilst maintaining a better hit rate than the other person will win.. If you weren't able to fire, you could use it for manoeuvring as was (hopefully) it's intention, and I guess escaping, although it's frustrating as hell to get the drop on someone only to have them bound 30 feet into the air, turn around midway and unload on you while you have little to no way of retaliating due to the aim assist weirdness and couple that with the rotation speed of the suit you are in. And that, in my opinion, would make it less of a douche-y, cheap, scummy, cheating mechanic of try-hards. tl;dnr: stop people being able to fire while jumping, less rage will occur. Thoughts? I just want to see it given its own branch in the skill tree as a suit jetpack mod, why should you get the jump AND melee damage Because muscles are in our legs too, not just our arms. You do realize a jump is just a kick off the floor, right? FORGE/FLAYLOCK/FISTS PLASMA/PISTOL/PUNCH ALL OF YOU PUNKS GET HUMILIATED AFTER LUNCH!
ROMULUS H3X research lab 467	Posted - 2015.03.28 05:21:00 - [43] - Quote Victor889 wrote: ROMULUS H3X wrote: I don't fire Plasma Cannon's with my toes (as much as I wish I could), untill then I don't see why we wouldn't be able to fire while jumping... Your whole screen shakes while you are jumping by the way and is almost a miracle to hit someone directly during this process, vice versa, it is not impossible for others to shoot you. In fact, I have forged and plasma cannoned people jumping through the air as well as seen snipers pick some of these jumpers out of the sky..... If that can happen then I don't see how people can complain. Motion to remove jumpers, denied. Reasoning: Lack of evidence to favor your judgement. I didn't say anything about removing the jumpers Ok. Ok. The title of your post is Petition to stop moon jumping bleeps right? I have made some pretty valid points, yet you choose to dodge a real response and say you didn't say anything about removing jumpers.,,,, It's right there in your title! Yes I know you strayed from the title and made it about not allowing one to shoot while jumping, HELLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOO did I not just say I don't fire with MY TOES ? Care to respond to that simple fact? FORGE/FLAYLOCK/FISTS PLASMA/PISTOL/PUNCH ALL OF YOU PUNKS GET HUMILIATED AFTER LUNCH!
Blake Kingston Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 215	Posted - 2015.03.28 05:23:00 - [44] - Quote knight guard fury wrote: You do know that this just makes you weaker right? Unless your armor tanked. No. If it stops you taking half a second of gun fire where normally you'd be hit, it makes you tougher.
Summa Militum TotalAscendancy 348	Posted - 2015.03.28 05:51:00 - [45] - Quote Victor889 wrote: Right, this stupid jumping thing is in the game and looks like it will stay for the rest of the duration of however long this game lasts for and I am not the only person who detests it. I genuinely think a really good idea - to make it a little 'fair-er' - would be to stop people being able to fire while doing it. Wasn't the whole idea to add another layer onto the game so and people could use it to get rid of spawn pads, or plant their own, and provide better mobility over the terrain for perhaps heavies and make the scouts better at.. well scouting. I really think stopping these morons who take advantage of a broken game mechanic, let's face it - the shooting mechanics in this game aren't fantastic when people are able to move as fast as they do - it does make it very disjointed when every 'fair' one on one fight comes down to who can strafe in circles or left to right whilst maintaining a better hit rate than the other person will win.. If you weren't able to fire, you could use it for manoeuvring as was (hopefully) it's intention, and I guess escaping, although it's frustrating as hell to get the drop on someone only to have them bound 30 feet into the air, turn around midway and unload on you while you have little to no way of retaliating due to the aim assist weirdness and couple that with the rotation speed of the suit you are in. And that, in my opinion, would make it less of a douche-y, cheap, scummy, cheating mechanic of try-hards. tl;dnr: stop people being able to fire while jumping, less rage will occur. Thoughts? I am going to have to say no to this. I only use 1 myofib on my fittings so I am clearly not capable of jumping 30 feet into the air but if this game were to take away the ability for me to fire while I jump I will immediately quit this game without any hesitation. If anything were to be done it should be an increased stacking penalty; something along the lines of the 2nd myofib only being 50% effective, the 3rd being 25% effective, and any more than that being completely useless.


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