DUST Search - [EXPLOIT] Blocking MCC damage in pub matches.

Sgt Kirk wrote:

Kalante Schiffer wrote:

Soldner VonKuechle wrote:

LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote:

Soldner VonKuechle wrote:

Honestly guys, we've known this since early in the beta, and while hilarious, it's never been a problem except for some extremely high stakes corp battles back then.

Too much effort, not enough reward.
Carry on.

Until you add in the new myofibrils........

So on a handful of maps you maybe get 1 ir in extremely rare cases two dudes wasting clones and time trying to block a shot or 3.

Statistics put it at a ridiculously small chance that this makes a effing bit of difference.

And im sure the PC crowd is lining up at the gate to do it.

lol now yall are pulling stuff out your @sses. Good PC corps would never lower themselves to flying up there to block MCC missiles in order to win all the time. If so then shame on them. I know the old PC players wouldn't because we came as far as to create a stop cease fire flaylock agreement among corps because of how OP it was in pc. but yall wouldnt know anything about that.

and the only corps that broke that agreement were the small scrub corps desperate for a win.

All the older experienced corps didn't break it.

That cease-flaylock fire agreement also made it into a game magazines review of dust explaining how broken the game is (which is lol-sad). I'll try to find that article.

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LOOKMOM NOHANDS Warpoint Sharx 331	Posted - 2015.03.23 13:42:00 - [1] - Quote In pub matches you can block the MCC missiles both from the MCC and from friendly null cannons effectively blocking your team from being able to deal damage to the enemy MCC. This only works where friendly fire is turned OFF. Also you should only try it against enemy missiles if you want to see a really cool explosion.
Super Sniper95 Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 666	Posted - 2015.03.23 13:51:00 - [2] - Quote Lol i thought you were gonna say to block the MCC missiles with dropships, that really works. Proud N SYNC fan. In-game Collectionist.
LOOKMOM NOHANDS Warpoint Sharx 331	Posted - 2015.03.23 14:31:00 - [3] - Quote Super Sniper95 wrote: Lol i thought you were gonna say to block the MCC missiles with dropships, that really works. Thats what I mean. You just have to do it to friendly MCC missiles. I was able to slow damage output significantly and hurt my team pretty good in a 4 point skirm that we only had 2 points.
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 2947	Posted - 2015.03.23 14:32:00 - [4] - Quote The point of an exploit is to personally gain from it... You don't get anything from this. Plasma Cannon :3 Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
Savage Mangler molon labe. General Tso's Alliance 328	Posted - 2015.03.23 14:47:00 - [5] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: The point of an exploit is to personally gain from it... You don't get anything from this. Implying that some people don't get off by screwing other people over and generally trolling and griefing for the lulz. Free your mind, break your shackles..... In other words....stop being a gorram metasheeple.
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 2948	Posted - 2015.03.23 14:48:00 - [6] - Quote Savage Mangler wrote: LUGMOS wrote: The point of an exploit is to personally gain from it... You don't get anything from this. Implying that some people don't get off on screwing other people over and generally trolling and griefing for the lulz. K, its now an exploit Plasma Cannon :3 Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
Vyzion Eyri WarRavens 2654	Posted - 2015.03.23 14:48:00 - [7] - Quote Or play hard mode skirmish, take all the points and place friendly dropships on top of all the cannons. > Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Jack Boost Zarena Family 704	Posted - 2015.03.23 14:56:00 - [8] - Quote So you telling us this - you own 2 points... and red land with DS at YOUR'S nulcanon... and you don't removie it? or your team want to loose and sit down with blue DS at blue nulcannon.... Each cases are for loose match... You just don't want to fight. Where is exploit? Not much time left...
norttheantiv Negative-Feedback. 180	Posted - 2015.03.23 14:59:00 - [9] - Quote Ha, this is even more exploitable than you have realized. Winner EU Squad Cup Go Go Power Rangers!
robin williams' ghost whisky tango foxtrot sir 1081	Posted - 2015.03.23 15:01:00 - [10] - Quote I think it's more of an issue in pc than it is in pubs. Corps that have practically unlimited funds can throw as many dropships as they want at it to get ahead on mcc damage. Robin Williams endorses this corp

Awesome Pantaloons Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 837	Posted - 2015.03.23 15:23:00 - [11] - Quote I'm going to send all my corp members a million ISK to buy gorgons and tell them to get their starter fits. Tonight... we fly! You're all puppets, tangled in strings. I had strings, but now, I'm free. There are no strings on me.
LOOKMOM NOHANDS Warpoint Sharx 332	Posted - 2015.03.23 15:37:00 - [12] - Quote Next I will be testing if you can actually stand on top of the null cannon in a heavy suit and block them. If someone is bored and can test before I get back online that would be awesome. If 4 members of the team could AWOX a pub stomp by just standing on top of the null cannons we may just have something here. Oh and for the record this is actually not an exploit. It is friendly fire working as intended with a slight manipulation for pissing people off.
norttheantiv Negative-Feedback. 180	Posted - 2015.03.23 15:46:00 - [13] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Next I will be testing if you can actually stand on top of the null cannon in a heavy suit and block them. If someone is bored and can test before I get back online that would be awesome. If 4 members of the team could AWOX a pub stomp by just standing on top of the null cannons we may just have something here. Oh and for the record this is actually not an exploit. It is friendly fire working as intended with a slight manipulation for pissing people off. You are attacking the problem from the wrong side, think MCC rather than cannons. When it works and you look at the killfeed you will lol Winner EU Squad Cup Go Go Power Rangers!
GeorgeN76 Senshi Slayers 3	Posted - 2015.03.23 15:49:00 - [14] - Quote In a factional game that my team was steam rolling on, I stood on top of a null cannon and got killed by it but never thought anything of it till now...
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 2950	Posted - 2015.03.23 15:52:00 - [15] - Quote I heard Random Gunz had been doing this for a while. Plasma Cannon :3 Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 1813	Posted - 2015.03.23 16:03:00 - [16] - Quote Honestly guys, we've known this since early in the beta, and while hilarious, it's never been a problem except for some extremely high stakes corp battles back then. Too much effort, not enough reward. Carry on. Time for a platform jump. Dust to WiiU!
LOOKMOM NOHANDS Warpoint Sharx 332	Posted - 2015.03.23 16:08:00 - [17] - Quote Soldner VonKuechle wrote: Honestly guys, we've known this since early in the beta, and while hilarious, it's never been a problem except for some extremely high stakes corp battles back then. Too much effort, not enough reward. Carry on. Until you add in the new myofibrils........
Thumb Green The Valyrian Mercenary Army 2197	Posted - 2015.03.23 16:15:00 - [18] - Quote Jack Boost wrote: So you telling us this - you own 2 points... and red land with DS at YOUR'S nulcanon... and you don't removie it? or your team want to loose and sit down with blue DS at blue nulcannon.... Each cases are for loose match... You just don't want to fight. Where is exploit? MCC missiles, not Null Cannon missiles those can actually kill you in a pub match no matter who holds the cannon (or at least it used to, happened to me once). Take your stinking paws off me, you damned dirty hipster! Rated [TV-MA]
LOOKMOM NOHANDS Warpoint Sharx 334	Posted - 2015.03.23 16:17:00 - [19] - Quote So.... for the record an Anti-MCC turret deals 53,999 damage.
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 1813	Posted - 2015.03.23 16:17:00 - [20] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Soldner VonKuechle wrote: Honestly guys, we've known this since early in the beta, and while hilarious, it's never been a problem except for some extremely high stakes corp battles back then. Too much effort, not enough reward. Carry on. Until you add in the new myofibrils........ So on a handful of maps you maybe get 1 ir in extremely rare cases two dudes wasting clones and time trying to block a shot or 3. Statistics put it at a ridiculously small chance that this makes a effing bit of difference. And im sure the PC crowd is lining up at the gate to do it. Time for a platform jump. Dust to WiiU!

zDemoncake Horizons' Edge 402	Posted - 2015.03.23 16:21:00 - [21] - Quote With 3 Myrofibs, you can jump onto a null cannon and block a shot. If it is under your teams control, damage will not register. You become an easy target depending on the map. CEO of Horizons' Edge's mercenary division *My soul, your beats!* Enemy to many; equal to none.
LOOKMOM NOHANDS Warpoint Sharx 334	Posted - 2015.03.23 16:24:00 - [22] - Quote zDemoncake wrote: With 3 Myrofibs, you can jump onto a null cannon and block a shot. If it is under your teams control, damage will not register. You become an easy target depending on the map. 4 on maps that there is nothing around them but exactly.
Aramis Madrigal Titans of Phoenix 386	Posted - 2015.03.23 16:25:00 - [23] - Quote The only circumstance where intercepting null cannon shots is a viable option is in a close PC match where the outcome is still up in the air, but there is insufficient time to flip a letter. In these cases, I think a suicide DS mission is a fun option to have. I've been in a couple PCs where this may have tipped the balance in our favor. The amount of effort and coordination required to block null cannon/MCC shots on a regular basis just isn't worth it. If you're capable of doing so, you also have to be capable of holding points while down several players (and most likely wasting clones). If you are capable of holding points while down several players, then it follows you are a capable of winning without needing to resort to blocking null cannons.
norttheantiv Negative-Feedback. 180	Posted - 2015.03.23 16:33:00 - [24] - Quote So, as none of you have though enough about this, here is how to do it properly. Block the point at which the MCC missile hits the top of your MCC. If you do this with a dropship, the burning hull will block further damage. A clone will also do it in a pinch. Winner EU Squad Cup Go Go Power Rangers!
LOOKMOM NOHANDS Warpoint Sharx 340	Posted - 2015.03.23 17:08:00 - [25] - Quote norttheantiv wrote: So, as none of you have though enough about this, here is how to do it properly. Block the point at which the MCC missile hits the top of your MCC. If you do this with a dropship, the burning hull will block further damage. A clone will also do it in a pinch. I have actually been toying with throwing equipment on top of the null cannon. It seems to get the missile to detonate IF you can get the link to stick which I have only pulled off twice.
Kalante Schiffer Ancient Exiles. 1031	Posted - 2015.03.23 17:14:00 - [26] - Quote Soldner VonKuechle wrote: LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Soldner VonKuechle wrote: Honestly guys, we've known this since early in the beta, and while hilarious, it's never been a problem except for some extremely high stakes corp battles back then. Too much effort, not enough reward. Carry on. Until you add in the new myofibrils........ So on a handful of maps you maybe get 1 ir in extremely rare cases two dudes wasting clones and time trying to block a shot or 3. Statistics put it at a ridiculously small chance that this makes a effing bit of difference. And im sure the PC crowd is lining up at the gate to do it. lol now yall are pulling stuff out your @sses. Good PC corps would never lower themselves to flying up there to block MCC missiles in order to win all the time. If so then shame on them. I know the old PC players wouldn't because we come as far as to a stop cease fire flaylock agreement but yall wouldnt know anything about that. framerate>everything else
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 2318	Posted - 2015.03.23 17:21:00 - [27] - Quote Jack Boost wrote: So you telling us this - you own 2 points... and red land with DS at YOUR'S nulcanon... and you don't removie it? or your team want to loose and sit down with blue DS at blue nulcannon.... Each cases are for loose match... You just don't want to fight. Where is exploit? 90% of this game is full of people that do anything possible to avoid winning because its to hard for them. CBM
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 1855	Posted - 2015.03.23 17:23:00 - [28] - Quote CUSE TOWN333 wrote: Jack Boost wrote: So you telling us this - you own 2 points... and red land with DS at YOUR'S nulcanon... and you don't removie it? or your team want to loose and sit down with blue DS at blue nulcannon.... Each cases are for loose match... You just don't want to fight. Where is exploit? he is from Warravens they are born losers that do anything possible to avoid a fight. I have to agree with your appraisal. Crush them
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game RUST415 488	Posted - 2015.03.23 17:24:00 - [29] - Quote Is it possible to fit a derpship resistant enough (with HP and hardeners) to resist a missile from null canons? Fix the game before trying to add anything else. (Hint: hit detection, lags, glitches,.. you've got some work :) )
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 9990	Posted - 2015.03.23 17:26:00 - [30] - Quote Kalante Schiffer wrote: Soldner VonKuechle wrote: LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Soldner VonKuechle wrote: Honestly guys, we've known this since early in the beta, and while hilarious, it's never been a problem except for some extremely high stakes corp battles back then. Too much effort, not enough reward. Carry on. Until you add in the new myofibrils........ So on a handful of maps you maybe get 1 ir in extremely rare cases two dudes wasting clones and time trying to block a shot or 3. Statistics put it at a ridiculously small chance that this makes a effing bit of difference. And im sure the PC crowd is lining up at the gate to do it. lol now yall are pulling stuff out your @sses. Good PC corps would never lower themselves to flying up there to block MCC missiles in order to win all the time. If so then shame on them. I know the old PC players wouldn't because we came as far as to create a stop cease fire flaylock agreement among corps because of how OP it was in pc. but yall wouldnt know anything about that. and the only corps that broke that agreement were the small scrub corps desperate for a win. All the older experienced corps didn't break it. That cease-flaylock fire agreement also made it into a game magazines review of dust explaining how broken the game is (which is lol-sad). I'll try to find that article. *As long as 5/6 (83%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP*

Kalante Schiffer Ancient Exiles. 1031	Posted - 2015.03.23 17:28:00 - [31] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Kalante Schiffer wrote: Soldner VonKuechle wrote: LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Soldner VonKuechle wrote: Honestly guys, we've known this since early in the beta, and while hilarious, it's never been a problem except for some extremely high stakes corp battles back then. Too much effort, not enough reward. Carry on. Until you add in the new myofibrils........ So on a handful of maps you maybe get 1 ir in extremely rare cases two dudes wasting clones and time trying to block a shot or 3. Statistics put it at a ridiculously small chance that this makes a effing bit of difference. And im sure the PC crowd is lining up at the gate to do it. lol now yall are pulling stuff out your @sses. Good PC corps would never lower themselves to flying up there to block MCC missiles in order to win all the time. If so then shame on them. I know the old PC players wouldn't because we came as far as to create a stop cease fire flaylock agreement among corps because of how OP it was in pc. but yall wouldnt know anything about that. and the only corps that broke that agreement were the small scrub corps desperate for a win. All the older experienced corps didn't break it. That cease-flaylock fire agreement also made it into a game magazines review of dust explaining how broken the game is (which is lol-sad). I'll try to find that article. haha really? wow framerate>everything else
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 1817	Posted - 2015.03.23 17:50:00 - [32] - Quote Kirk, wsnt that the EoN/anti-EoN war write up in kogatu? Cant remember for sure where. Time for a platform jump. Dust to WiiU!
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 9992	Posted - 2015.03.23 17:53:00 - [33] - Quote Soldner VonKuechle wrote: Kirk, wsnt that the EoN/anti-EoN war write up in kogatu? Cant remember for sure where. I'm pretty sure it was. at the very least it was an article talking about the EoN vs. everyone war. *As long as 5/6 (83%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP*
Awesome Pantaloons Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 841	Posted - 2015.03.23 19:31:00 - [34] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Next I will be testing if you can actually stand on top of the null cannon in a heavy suit and block them. If someone is bored and can test before I get back online that would be awesome. If 4 members of the team could AWOX a pub stomp by just standing on top of the null cannons we may just have something here. Oh and for the record this is actually not an exploit. It is friendly fire working as intended with a slight manipulation for pissing people off. Nope, can't block the missiles at the silo with a heavy. Tried many times. Have to use a vehicle or anti-gravity suit. You're all puppets, tangled in strings. I had strings, but now, I'm free. There are no strings on me.
LOOKMOM NOHANDS Warpoint Sharx 343	Posted - 2015.03.23 19:34:00 - [35] - Quote Awesome Pantaloons wrote: LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Next I will be testing if you can actually stand on top of the null cannon in a heavy suit and block them. If someone is bored and can test before I get back online that would be awesome. If 4 members of the team could AWOX a pub stomp by just standing on top of the null cannons we may just have something here. Oh and for the record this is actually not an exploit. It is friendly fire working as intended with a slight manipulation for pissing people off. Nope, can't block the missiles at the silo with a clone. Tried many times. Have to use a vehicle. It is difficult but it is possible. It still goes through the firing animation but the missile does not leave. I confirmed this by having a friend watch for the missile while I stood up there. Also go stand on top of an enemy one to find out very quick that a clone can catch a missile.
LOOKMOM NOHANDS Warpoint Sharx 343	Posted - 2015.03.23 19:35:00 - [36] - Quote Awesome Pantaloons wrote: LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Next I will be testing if you can actually stand on top of the null cannon in a heavy suit and block them. If someone is bored and can test before I get back online that would be awesome. If 4 members of the team could AWOX a pub stomp by just standing on top of the null cannons we may just have something here. Oh and for the record this is actually not an exploit. It is friendly fire working as intended with a slight manipulation for pissing people off. Nope, can't block the missiles at the silo with a heavy. Tried many times. Have to use a vehicle or anti-gravity suit. Lol nice edit. It is also possible with a heavy but a waste of time as a good dropship delivery is required each time. Myofib stacked suit takes care of it no problem.
Awesome Pantaloons Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 841	Posted - 2015.03.23 19:37:00 - [37] - Quote Kalante Schiffer wrote: Soldner VonKuechle wrote: LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Soldner VonKuechle wrote: Honestly guys, we've known this since early in the beta, and while hilarious, it's never been a problem except for some extremely high stakes corp battles back then. Too much effort, not enough reward. Carry on. Until you add in the new myofibrils........ So on a handful of maps you maybe get 1 ir in extremely rare cases two dudes wasting clones and time trying to block a shot or 3. Statistics put it at a ridiculously small chance that this makes a effing bit of difference. And im sure the PC crowd is lining up at the gate to do it. lol now yall are pulling stuff out of your @sses. Good PC corps would never lower themselves to flying up there to block MCC missiles in order to win all the time. If so then shame on them. I know the old PC players wouldn't because we came as far as to create a stop cease fire flaylock agreement among corps because of how OP it was in pc. but yall wouldnt know anything about that. Pretty much this. And even if a PC corp tried this kind of dumbarse bullshyt as long as the opposing corp has any decent AVer the ships would never get close enough to the points to matter. You're all puppets, tangled in strings. I had strings, but now, I'm free. There are no strings on me.
Awesome Pantaloons Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 841	Posted - 2015.03.23 19:38:00 - [38] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Awesome Pantaloons wrote: LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Next I will be testing if you can actually stand on top of the null cannon in a heavy suit and block them. If someone is bored and can test before I get back online that would be awesome. If 4 members of the team could AWOX a pub stomp by just standing on top of the null cannons we may just have something here. Oh and for the record this is actually not an exploit. It is friendly fire working as intended with a slight manipulation for pissing people off. Nope, can't block the missiles at the silo with a heavy. Tried many times. Have to use a vehicle or anti-gravity suit. Lol nice edit. It is also possible with a heavy but a waste of time as a good dropship delivery is required each time. Myofib stacked suit takes care of it no problem. Haven't tried a good myo heavy yet and all of mine are too fat to get onto a cannon. lol If only we had a grab mechanic so I could ride the missile into the enemy MCC. You're all puppets, tangled in strings. I had strings, but now, I'm free. There are no strings on me.
roblox098 Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 60	Posted - 2015.03.23 23:06:00 - [39] - Quote Awesome Pantaloons wrote: I'm going to send all my corp members a million ISK to buy gorgons and tell them to get their starter fits. Tonight... we fly! THATS THE SPIRIT Assault mk.0 and scout gk.0 I LOVE =ƒö¬ ing
Kuruld Sengar G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance 278	Posted - 2015.03.23 23:34:00 - [40] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: The point of an exploit is to personally gain from it... You don't get anything from this. You can block blue null cannons to clone the enemy more easily.



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