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Isa Lucifer
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.03.22 17:55:00 -
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If we are "profitable" to CCP, at least give us Amarr and Minmatar HAV and & LAV. Also the Laser lance and change name from Assault rifle to Plasma rifle.
Amarr Victor
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Maken Tosch
Dust University Ivy League
11191
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Posted - 2015.03.22 17:59:00 -
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CCP is considering using current Gallente/Caldari vehicles as placeholder models that would be reskinned to represent the Amarr/Minmatar with their own stats. It's not perfect, but it would at least help with the lack of racial parity.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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DUST Fiend
16158
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Posted - 2015.03.22 18:03:00 -
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We're profitable because we have a tiny dev team. At best you'll have placeholders, very likely indefinitely.
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Stormblade Green
KnightKiller's inc.
61
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Posted - 2015.03.22 18:08:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:CCP is considering using current Gallente/Caldari vehicles as placeholder models that would be reskinned to represent the Amarr/Minmatar with their own stats. It's not perfect, but it would at least help with the lack of racial parity.
If I remember correctly there was art on all Racial vehicles....
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DUST Fiend
16159
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Posted - 2015.03.22 18:09:00 -
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Stormblade Green wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:CCP is considering using current Gallente/Caldari vehicles as placeholder models that would be reskinned to represent the Amarr/Minmatar with their own stats. It's not perfect, but it would at least help with the lack of racial parity. If I remember correctly there was art on all Racial vehicles.... Yea, that's just it. Concept art. They don't have the resources to actually add in new assets anymore. Hell, the maps we got were backlogged for almost a year.
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Maken Tosch
Dust University Ivy League
11191
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Posted - 2015.03.22 18:24:00 -
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Stormblade Green wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:CCP is considering using current Gallente/Caldari vehicles as placeholder models that would be reskinned to represent the Amarr/Minmatar with their own stats. It's not perfect, but it would at least help with the lack of racial parity. If I remember correctly there was art on all Racial vehicles....
Those were just drawings. Concept art is just that... art. They didn't make actual models for the Amarr & Minmatar.
PS: The team is forced to use old assets to make up for the lack of content. For example, CCP Rattati pointed out that they are experimenting with the old Rogue Drone models you see in the old trailers using turret installation AI to function.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
1870
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Posted - 2015.03.22 18:27:00 -
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Isa Lucifer wrote:If we are "profitable" to CCP, at least give us Amarr and Minmatar HAV and & LAV. Also the Laser lance and change name from Assault rifle to Plasma rifle.
Always wanting for new toys. Once you'd got those, you'd just start asking for next things. That never ends.
Looking at both sides of the coin.
Even Aurum one.
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Isa Lucifer
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
172
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Posted - 2015.03.22 18:40:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:Isa Lucifer wrote:If we are "profitable" to CCP, at least give us Amarr and Minmatar HAV and & LAV. Also the Laser lance and change name from Assault rifle to Plasma rifle. Always wanting for new toys. Once you'd got those, you'd just start asking for next things. That never ends.
Of course it will not end, because the game is not complete. Everybody here knows I am grateful, but the truth has to be said. Do you want Dust to stay like this forever? or do you want to progress and be the best shooter with the best lore there is?
Amarr Victor
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First Prophet
Nos Nothi
2765
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Posted - 2015.03.22 19:35:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Stormblade Green wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:CCP is considering using current Gallente/Caldari vehicles as placeholder models that would be reskinned to represent the Amarr/Minmatar with their own stats. It's not perfect, but it would at least help with the lack of racial parity. If I remember correctly there was art on all Racial vehicles.... Those were just drawings. Concept art is just that... art. They didn't make actual models for the Amarr & Minmatar. PS: The team is forced to use old assets to make up for the lack of content. For example, CCP Rattati pointed out that they are experimenting with the old Rogue Drone models you see in the old trailers using turret installation AI to function. http://i.imgur.com/xSxlftZ.png
The Amarr vehicles look like concept art but the minmatar vehicles look like actual rendered models. That said I'm aware we'll likely only get reskiinned caldari/gallente vehicles as placeholders for the foreseeable future. Which as disappointed as that makes me, it's at least better than nothing. I guess.
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TIGER SHARK1501
Savage Bullet General Tso's Alliance
196
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Posted - 2015.03.22 19:40:00 -
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Mad Syringe
ReDust Inc.
587
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Posted - 2015.03.22 22:26:00 -
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I'd rather have the Minmatar cargo hub, that thing was already 3D, but not skinned if I remember correctly. That thing looked like a maze, no square angles anywhere... looked like the perfect map for all things heavy... |
VAHZZ
984
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Posted - 2015.03.22 22:29:00 -
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I can see it now, the Amarr tank shooting Scripture and Doctrine at you.
I'd rather look bad winning, than look good losing.
Closed Beta Vet
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Maken Tosch
Dust University Ivy League
11192
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Posted - 2015.03.22 22:38:00 -
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First Prophet wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Stormblade Green wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:CCP is considering using current Gallente/Caldari vehicles as placeholder models that would be reskinned to represent the Amarr/Minmatar with their own stats. It's not perfect, but it would at least help with the lack of racial parity. If I remember correctly there was art on all Racial vehicles.... Those were just drawings. Concept art is just that... art. They didn't make actual models for the Amarr & Minmatar. PS: The team is forced to use old assets to make up for the lack of content. For example, CCP Rattati pointed out that they are experimenting with the old Rogue Drone models you see in the old trailers using turret installation AI to function. http://i.imgur.com/xSxlftZ.pngThe Amarr vehicles look like concept art but the minmatar vehicles look like actual rendered models. That said I'm aware we'll likely only get reskiinned caldari/gallente vehicles as placeholders for the foreseeable future. Which as disappointed as that makes me, it's at least better than nothing. I guess.
The LAV and HAV look rendered, you're correct on that. But the Dropship still looks like a concept art. Even if they are actual models, I doubt CCP still has them on file and very likely they will need to be rigged and programmed to behave like vehicles and I doubt Rattati has anyone like that available to him right now.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
1872
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Posted - 2015.03.22 22:47:00 -
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Isa Lucifer wrote:KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:Isa Lucifer wrote:If we are "profitable" to CCP, at least give us Amarr and Minmatar HAV and & LAV. Also the Laser lance and change name from Assault rifle to Plasma rifle. Always wanting for new toys. Once you'd got those, you'd just start asking for next things. That never ends. Of course it will not end, because the game is not complete. Everybody here knows I am grateful, but the truth has to be said. Do you want Dust to stay like this forever? or do you want to progress and be the best shooter with the best lore there is?
And when it would be 'complete' then people would still cry for new weapons and vehicles.
Rather than those and the mountain of work balancing those, I'd want a new game mode. And maps. More replay value for the game...
Looking at both sides of the coin.
Even Aurum one.
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Grimmiers
822
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Posted - 2015.03.22 22:53:00 -
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Maybe we could crowdsource the assets. There's probably a bunch of legal stuff that make it impossible, but it would be interesting if so. |
Ronin Merc
Defenders of the Helghast Dream The Ditanian Alliance
8
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Posted - 2015.03.22 23:04:00 -
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Mad Syringe wrote:I'd rather have the Minmatar cargo hub, that thing was already 3D, but not skinned if I remember correctly. That thing looked like a maze, no square angles anywhere... looked like the perfect map for all things heavy...
Wow I had no idea about that map. I'd also prefer that over the minmatar and amar vehicles. Looks awesome. |
RemingtonBeaver
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2094
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Posted - 2015.03.22 23:11:00 -
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The Minmatar dropship looks just like the Buzzards in Borderlands 2...I waaaaaaannnnnttttttt oooooonnnnneeeee!
Unleash the BIMBOBOT!
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
18976
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Posted - 2015.03.22 23:49:00 -
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I am pretty sure the minmatar HAV was scrapped due to its weirdness
Similar to how the caldari HAV was scrapped it was just too weird to have as an HAV.
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DarthJT5
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
350
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Posted - 2015.03.22 23:53:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I am pretty sure the minmatar HAV was scrapped due to its weirdness
Similar to how the caldari HAV was scrapped it was just too weird to have as an HAV. When was the Cal HAV scrapped??
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Veteran Python Pilot for 1 year.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
17797
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Posted - 2015.03.23 00:04:00 -
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DarthJT5 wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I am pretty sure the minmatar HAV was scrapped due to its weirdness
Similar to how the caldari HAV was scrapped it was just too weird to have as an HAV. When was the Cal HAV scrapped??
If IWS is implying this then that was literally the most illogical choice CCP has yet made.
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Lupus Wolf
Minmatar Republic
188
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Posted - 2015.03.23 00:25:00 -
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Oh my...
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Poison Howl
Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic
182
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Posted - 2015.03.23 00:55:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I am pretty sure the minmatar HAV was scrapped due to its weirdness
Similar to how the caldari HAV was scrapped it was just too weird to have as an HAV. Please tell me they did not scrap the LAV. Thing looked amazing...
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VAHZZ
989
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Posted - 2015.03.23 00:58:00 -
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Something Caldari, that is beautiful... BLASPHEMOUS!!
I'd rather look bad winning, than look good losing.
Closed Beta Vet
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Isa Lucifer
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
173
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Posted - 2015.03.23 01:55:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:Isa Lucifer wrote:KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:Isa Lucifer wrote:If we are "profitable" to CCP, at least give us Amarr and Minmatar HAV and & LAV. Also the Laser lance and change name from Assault rifle to Plasma rifle. Always wanting for new toys. Once you'd got those, you'd just start asking for next things. That never ends. Of course it will not end, because the game is not complete. Everybody here knows I am grateful, but the truth has to be said. Do you want Dust to stay like this forever? or do you want to progress and be the best shooter with the best lore there is? And when it would be 'complete' then people would still cry for new weapons and vehicles. Rather than those and the mountain of work balancing those, I'd want a new game mode. And maps. More replay value for the game...
KEROSIINI, I think you don't "feel me".
I am not talking about "toys". I am talking about progression. I agree with you about replay value. The new game mode looks promising and it will be cool for a while. The Minmatar and Amarr HAVs and LAVs will be cool for a while as well. But that feeling of the game is progressing, that is evolving and adding more content. That is permanent. The nerf and buff time cycle that comes after adding more "toys" is invaluable for CCP IF they are to make Dust Legion or bring it to the PC.
Accept the fact that yes, we are here to be entertained and contribute financially to CCP, but the most important aspect of us, as a Free to play gamers, is that we are the beta testers.
I just pick on the HAVs and LAVs because it goes in line with the dropsuits. First they did Heavys and Assault. Then Commandos and Scouts. Now its, Amarr and Minmatar HAV and LAV to complete factionals vehicules. Also to implement, with the Minmatar and Amarr vehicules, more turrets.
P.S. I love that tank. Maybe that will be the model for the visual update of Caldari HAV in 5 years...
Amarr Victor
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
6032
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Posted - 2015.03.23 01:59:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:DarthJT5 wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I am pretty sure the minmatar HAV was scrapped due to its weirdness
Similar to how the caldari HAV was scrapped it was just too weird to have as an HAV. When was the Cal HAV scrapped?? If IWS is implying this then that was literally the most illogical choice CCP has yet made. Now that's a tank!!!!
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