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Greiv Rabbah
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Posted - 2015.03.21 00:30:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Good lord this is melodramatic.
Is Dust fun for you to play? If so, keep playing, enjoy it for what it is. If not, don't play.
If you have to hand some grand vision of what the future might hold in order to enjoy day to day gameplay, stop playing.
This isn't like your mom telling you to eat your broccoli so you can get dessert.
If you don't like what you're consuming right now, don't play.
If the game isn't fun for you right now, don't play.
Also, we're CCP job security? So what you're saying is that....if a product appeals to consumers enough that they spend money on it....and people then spend money, thus making the product profitable, which then encourages the company to keep having people work on said product.....in order to make more money.... which assures those people will be able to keep working....to make money.............Wait a second, that's how EVERY COMPANY EVER WORKS.
Oh, cool, so now Pokey is playing the Blind Faith card. Please don't come at me with this "if it's not fun don't play" BS, Pokey, seriously. Some of us are in it for a little bit more than the casual experience, hate to break your heart. Some of us actually played this game for the longevity, the character progression, and the genuine sense of ownership and belonging in this fictional world that was created. I'm sorry if that slaughters your little isolated view of how games have to be played and I genuinely do apologize if you only play video games for a fifteen minute thrill but for the love of christ don't come in here acting like you're god's gift to gaming with why people should or should not play video games. Seriously. My level of respect for you dropped like, a dozen levels just now.
I played this game for the longevity. Still do. Thousands of players were hurt by the legion announcement and now the devoted few will get butthurt by plans to continue developing dust based on it finally becoming profitable?
I thought hilmars statement would be a breath of fresh air to those uncertain about the games future. I thought that by announcing to the players that dust was finally profitable the playerbase would see that the long-term game we were promised has a chance to still exist.
In a moment of naive elation I actually believed that by announcing that dust isn't dead and isn't going to die anytime soon, that players would finally be happy about something.
And then I see this.
And finally I realize that the playerbase dust has will always be full of hate. That everything CCP ever does will always be the wrong thing. I understand why rouge ddoesn't speak. Anybody at CCP who talks to the playerbase is either a fool or a scapegoat. I am thankful that rattati offers himself up as that fool. I am sad that he does so knowing that when the game falls to this pessimistic drivel, he will likely be out of a job.
Aeon, this thread is depressing and will only serve to harm a game you profess to care about.
What is your endgame here? Unless it is to undermine the success of a game that after years is finally profiting, what is your goal in inciting a riotous feeling among a playerbase that has just been told we have a future? A playerbase that has just been told eve is no longer CCPs only moneymaker? A playerbase that should be rejoicing in the knowledge that we aren't about to get dropped like a bad habit at a moments notice for costing CCP too much money?
Why are you trying to keep people from realizing that due to its success, dust may see an improved quality of development in the days to come?
Sebiestor scout, MTAC pilot, Merc w/ a face
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Greiv Rabbah
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Posted - 2015.03.21 00:40:00 -
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I like how post #6 there apparently doesn't know that dust has had kb/m support for a long while
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Greiv Rabbah
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Posted - 2015.03.21 01:23:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Weird, I read that article and thought for the first time that they seemed to be coming to their senses and at least consider a PS4 port a possibility.
If you read the legion threads, CCP Rouge was pretty clear about future consoles being a possibility. In fact, CCP never thought that the ps3 would last forever, but due to eve now having 2 profitable games, they have more reason to put more work into ensuring the future of dust remains stable.
Aeon, if you've been in new eden since 06, why do you not see the outcome that is inevitable?
Eve was a failure for some time before it evolved into as successful a game as it now is. Eve had beginnings as rocky as dust has had and grew into an amazing ride.
I understand your concern, but as old a vet as you are in new eden, please do the right thing here and reassure players that its moving in the right direction instead of sowing seeds of doubt and despair.
People know you've been around for a long time, and if you care as much for the world of EVE as I know you do, you should be a role model to those who dont have past experience to remind them that things are moving in a direction of dust becoming a flourishing and long-lasting addition to the Eve series.
The future success of Dust 514 and its ability to grow into the game we were all sold a dream of is, well... STRONGLY dependent on whether people have confidence to continue paying into it.
By association, that makes the words and tone conveyed by those of us who have been a part of new eden for so long more meaningful.
I don't believe you want dust to die. So help it grow. Give people faith.
I hope you will settle down and come to your senses on this one. Preferably sooner rather than later
Sebiestor scout, MTAC pilot, Merc w/ a face
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Greiv Rabbah
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Posted - 2015.03.21 02:38:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Kevall Longstride wrote:You can choose to dismiss it as the ramblings of a fan boy if you want but I'm feeling better than I've done in a long time about the future of an FPS set in New Eden. Kevall, I'm happy that you are optimistic about the future of an FPS in New Eden, but you aren't the least bit concerned about the aging PS3 hosting this game for years to come? That doesn't worry you just a little bit?
Kevall is over there drinking with and chatting up the dev team and getting good response regarding the future of dust and you can't stop being salty for 5 seconds and consider what that may imply?  oh boy. Here lemme borrow some of that tinfoil and make you a dress to go with your hat.
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Greiv Rabbah
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Posted - 2015.03.21 02:54:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Greiv Rabbah wrote:I like how post #6 there apparently doesn't know that dust has had kb/m support for a long while "The whole reason DUST pretty much died is that it was supposed to be ported over the PS4, but that was when Sony wasn't going to charge a monthly access fee. The contract CCP had with Sony reflected that. Then Sony decided to have PS4 users pay a monthly fee, and the contract went **** up." Well, that's the story according to capsuleers, isn't it? there's no monthly fee for free to play games ffs.
Lol. They don't know we pay for this game too.
But I meant this https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5596309#post5596309
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Greiv Rabbah
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Posted - 2015.03.21 10:48:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Greiv Rabbah wrote:Kevall is over there drinking with and chatting up the dev team and getting good response regarding the future of dust and you can't stop being salty for 5 seconds and consider what that may imply? oh boy. Here lemme borrow some of that tinfoil and make you a dress to go with your hat. It was a sincere question. No tinfoil-hattery. Kevall's pubcrawl Dust 514 forecast should be taken at face value: CPM1 is satisfied with Dust 514 remaining on the PS3. So is CCP. They interpret that as a "win". I dare to disagree. A win would be Dust 514 on PS4 or Eve: Legion on PC.
ok. no tinfoil hattery, and from there conspiracy theories start pouring out.
if hilmar says development will continue on the ps3 and dust is profitable and ps3 is not where it will end...
and rouge says that new eden deserves a pc fps and that pc exclusivity is not a given and console ports will not be ruled out...
and hilmar says theyre still exploring their options for the future iteration of dust to ensure we dont get left behind...
how is that them locking dust into a dead platform?
how is that even making the claim that theyre satisfied with dust being on the ps3 forever or that that would be a win?
even if your hat wasnt showing in that last post...
youve had some serious tinfoil and salt issues lately.
dust is more successful than ever.
dust has a secured future.
theres a strong focus on improving the eve<->dust link going on,
given your tantrum about dust not being gritty and new eden-y enough (like rainbow lasers. thats gritty) shouldnt you pop in and chime in? just leave the blue juice rants at home and try to keep things on topic bc a lot of good can come from that thread if it doesnt spiral out of control
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Greiv Rabbah
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Posted - 2015.03.21 11:02:00 -
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Regis Blackbird wrote:SOGZ PANDA wrote:People who are defending this game need to think for a second about this post. He is not saying he doesn't enjoy playing the game, he is stating that we need to stop accepting mediocrity with this game and giving money to devs that are not giving us back a vision. Sure they don't have to do ****, but if they want the revenue stream (the hardcore dusties), then they need to step up create a vision for a future of this genre. Not just hotfix this, (insert feature) here.
Vote with your wallets. Yeah...lets withdraw all our money and force them into the red again. Hell, let's quit playing while we're at it, so they really see the numbers plummet like a stone. That will really show them our hardcore dedication to the future of New Eden FPS. As contrary as this may sound, the surest way to get some form of continuation on PC and/or PS4 is to help grow the player base on the PS3. If CCP sees that there is a stable market which turns a profit, they will be more likely to want to continue on the next platform... Personally I take the news from Fanfest as good news. But hey, we are all different
no, Regis, we're not all *that* different, and its great that you're being polite but...
what you said is really the only logical viewpoint and everyone who cant see that needs to step back, think about it logically, and come backwith their head on straight
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