DUST Search - I thought CCP did not want hardeners to make tanks invincible.

Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:

Thumb Green wrote:

Takahiro Kashuken wrote:

So he pops out with the hardeners back on, that is smart piloting, do you really expect pilots to dual AV which can pop a basic HAV with no hardener on in about a clip?

Why is it vehicle players think AV should take more than one clip kill something but are fine with the fact that everything else can kill 2 or 3 of somethings in a clip? Why is it that AV are the only weapons you expect to take more than one clip to do it's job?

Just because you're in a tank doesn't mean you're invincible to infantry, in fact infantry is the greatest threat to tanks. Why? Because they can pop out from anywhere and 1-2 shot your ass and there's not a damn thing you can do about it if you don't have your own infantry support.

He isn't disputing that though, he is saying that naturally he's only going to engage with hardeners on, and that no one sane would do it with them off because AVers will pop you. He wasn't disputing how many "clips or shots" it shoudl take to kill an HAV with hardeners off, he was acknowledging that they ARE a threat.

It seems you're bringing in baggage from other "Us VS Them" threads into here, cut that crap out.


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Thumb Green The Valyrian Mercenary Army 2172	Posted - 2015.03.20 18:39:00 - [1] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: So he pops out with the hardeners back on, that is smart piloting, do you really expect pilots to dual AV which can pop a basic HAV with no hardener on in about a clip? Why is it vehicle players think AV should take more than one clip kill something but are fine with the fact that everything else can kill 2 or 3 of somethings in a clip? Why is it that AV are the only weapons you expect to take more than one clip to do it's job? Just because you're in a tank doesn't mean you're invincible to infantry, in fact infantry is the greatest threat to tanks. Why? Because they can pop out from anywhere and 1-2 shot your ass and there's not a damn thing you can do about it if you don't have your own infantry support. Take your stinking paws off me, you damned dirty hipster! Rated [TV-MA]
Thumb Green The Valyrian Mercenary Army 2172	Posted - 2015.03.20 18:48:00 - [2] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: Thumb Green wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: So he pops out with the hardeners back on, that is smart piloting, do you really expect pilots to dual AV which can pop a basic HAV with no hardener on in about a clip? Why is it vehicle players think AV should take more than one clip kill something but are fine with the fact that everything else can kill 2 or 3 of somethings in a clip? Why is it that AV are the only weapons you expect to take more than one clip to do it's job? Just because you're in a tank doesn't mean you're invincible to infantry, in fact infantry is the greatest threat to tanks. Why? Because they can pop out from anywhere and 1-2 shot your ass and there's not a damn thing you can do about it if you don't have your own infantry support. He isn't disputing that though, he is saying that naturally he's only going to engage with hardeners on, and that no one sane would do it with them off because AVers will pop you. He wasn't disputing how many "clips or shots" it shoudl take to kill an HAV with hardeners off, he was acknowledging that they ARE a threat. It seems you're bringing in baggage from other "Us VS Them" threads into here, cut that crap out. No he's saying AV shouldn't be able to take out a tank in a single clip and has always said that. Take your stinking paws off me, you damned dirty hipster! Rated [TV-MA]
Thumb Green The Valyrian Mercenary Army 2172	Posted - 2015.03.20 19:51:00 - [3] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: AV can already take out a tank in a single clip. Only against bad tankers but I didn't say it couldn't, my comment was about your asinine belief that it should take more than one clip. Take your stinking paws off me, you damned dirty hipster! Rated [TV-MA]
Thumb Green The Valyrian Mercenary Army 2188	Posted - 2015.03.22 18:20:00 - [4] - Quote Stormblade Green wrote: It would be interesting if Breach FGs actually moderately override those hardeners....... By override I mean ignore some of the hardener..... Hell, the breach should completely ignore hardeners with how long you have to fcking sit there while the damn thing charges. Take your stinking paws off me, you damned dirty hipster! Rated [TV-MA]