DUST Search - python got nerfed lol

Doshneil Antaro wrote:

Mad Syringe wrote:

MrShooter01 wrote:

Mad Syringe wrote:

Don't know that, had a python yesterday hovering around the biomass mushroom with impunity, he tanked 2 clips of a maxed wiyrkomy from a lv5 minmando with 2 kplx damage mods. And I was not the only AV shooting at him...
Don't know his fit, but there seems to be a way to make the Python work...
He flew away casually in the end...

Mad Syringe wrote:

Nope, it was a pub, and some scrub put links on the mushroom, which lead to half the team spawning there. We obviously lost.
Near the end I spawned there as well, and tried to at least get the derpship, but no such luck! That thing was tough as a tank.

I'm sorry, the current forum narrative is "vehicles are underpowered victims" and "EZmode AV wins 100% of the time"

Please re-word your posts so that the ADS pilot sounds disadvantaged by your actions in some way

Yeah, he was at a disadvantage, because he couldn't strafe as fast as I was dancing around his XT missiles.
Otherwise I think he might have wanted to enjoy the view a little longer, but he had to leave casually short before his hardener went down.

Seriously, that Python was maxed, and he had a very good fit. He got a hit before the hardener went up, but that was no proto AV.
As soon as the hardener (or two) where up, he was invincible. He may have had a bad day, if the PLC guy had hit him, but no such luck...

damn, even with 2 complex hardeners, I cannot survive 1 clip from a minmando. I sold off all my hardners in lieu of other mods . I usually only die to being rammed or being careless since the ditch. Than again, I spend more time fleeing than fighting.

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IMMORTAL WAR HERO Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 305	Posted - 2015.03.20 07:18:00 - [1] - Quote they are sooo different now lol notice the acceleration nerf is huge lol like i dont use incubus but i know armors ment to have higher top speed while shield has higher acceleration lol incubus must have a terrible time getting away from swarms Frowned upon by amateurs: The object of war is not to die for your country but make the other bastard die for his. GSP
IMMORTAL WAR HERO Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 305	Posted - 2015.03.20 07:24:00 - [2] - Quote from my experience a python does not need health it just needs to be speedy Frowned upon by amateurs: The object of war is not to die for your country but make the other bastard die for his. GSP
hails8n DEATH BY DESTRUCTION 56	Posted - 2015.03.20 09:15:00 - [3] - Quote IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote: from my experience a python does not need health it just needs to be speedy Needs to be recycled, because its a tin can. All the ads nerfs so far: Massive rof Nerf, afterburner Nerf, massive swarm buff, installation buff, recall time Nerf, recent fitting capacity nerf(making half of my python fits invalid), tank buff(just try taking out a rep Maddy with an ads or a shield tanked gunlogi), lot of other things that make it not worth it like tapping walls, getting a lag spike crash and burning midair with nothing around , map fatalities(MCC/ node cannon missles hitting you from odd camera angles). Lastly Rattatis random statistics saying ads pilots are going 20/0, therefore balanced. Snipe Yo Ass.
Michael-J-Fox Richards The Scope Gallente Federation 266	Posted - 2015.03.20 09:18:00 - [4] - Quote python always sucked I got that john elway arm to proficiency level 5.
Mad Syringe ReDust Inc. 551	Posted - 2015.03.20 09:24:00 - [5] - Quote Don't know that, had a python yesterday hovering around the biomass mushroom with impunity, he tanked 2 clips of a maxed wiyrkomy from a lv5 minmando with 2 kplx damage mods. And I was not the only AV shooting at him... Don't know his fit, but there seems to be a way to make the Python work... He flew away casually in the end...
Echo 1991 Titans of Phoenix 757	Posted - 2015.03.20 09:29:00 - [6] - Quote Ads need fitting buffs. Maybe an extra slot (an extra high for the inci and low for the python) and slightly more fitting room. Other than that, Ads are fine they have a relatively easy time escaping from AV, they aren't supposed to be these ships that can sit there all day and kill relentlessly. It's supposed to drop off troops and provide cover fire.
IMMORTAL WAR HERO Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 308	Posted - 2015.03.20 19:34:00 - [7] - Quote Michael-J-Fox Richards wrote: python always sucked pythons were better before becuase you could straif with them and avoid swarm lock on better by running around a building fast almost like how you avoid av in battle field when you run out of ecm jammer Frowned upon by amateurs: The object of war is not to die for your country but make the other bastard die for his. GSP
IMMORTAL WAR HERO Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 308	Posted - 2015.03.20 19:36:00 - [8] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: Ads need fitting buffs. Maybe an extra slot (an extra high for the inci and low for the python) and slightly more fitting room. Other than that, Ads are fine they have a relatively easy time escaping from AV, they aren't supposed to be these ships that can sit there all day and kill relentlessly. It's supposed to drop off troops and provide cover fire. my fitting iss completely fine pythons only need 2000 sheild if they have proper acceleration Frowned upon by amateurs: The object of war is not to die for your country but make the other bastard die for his. GSP
TEBOW BAGGINS 1710	Posted - 2015.03.20 21:17:00 - [9] - Quote i'm thankful i only play the forums now.. don't know what this is about but it sound more like more garbage and dirt to drag pilots thru..
TEBOW BAGGINS 1710	Posted - 2015.03.20 21:21:00 - [10] - Quote hails8n wrote: IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote: from my experience a python does not need health it just needs to be speedy Needs to be recycled, because its a tin can. All the ads nerfs so far: Massive rof Nerf, afterburner Nerf, massive swarm buff, installation buff, recall time Nerf, recent fitting capacity nerf(making half of my python fits invalid), tank buff(just try taking out a rep Maddy with an ads or a shield tanked gunlogi), lot of other things that make it not worth it like tapping walls, getting a lag spike crash and burning midair with nothing around , map fatalities(MCC/ node cannon missles hitting you from odd camera angles). Lastly Rattatis random statistics saying ads pilots are going 20/0, therefore balanced. the result of having an infantry based dev screwing with vehicles. pilots have no dev representation and infantry has all the representation.. of course vehicles are doomed when all dev does is run infantry.

IMMORTAL WAR HERO Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 313	Posted - 2015.03.20 21:43:00 - [11] - Quote Mad Syringe wrote: Don't know that, had a python yesterday hovering around the biomass mushroom with impunity, he tanked 2 clips of a maxed wiyrkomy from a lv5 minmando with 2 kplx damage mods. And I was not the only AV shooting at him... Don't know his fit, but there seems to be a way to make the Python work... He flew away casually in the end... were you in a pc battle i was doing that yesterday in a pc battle lol Frowned upon by amateurs: The object of war is not to die for your country but make the other bastard die for his. GSP
Mad Syringe ReDust Inc. 571	Posted - 2015.03.20 21:48:00 - [12] - Quote Nope, it was a pub, and some scrub put links on the mushroom, which lead to half the team spawning there. We obviously lost. Near the end I spawned there as well, and tried to at least get the derpship, but no such luck! That thing was tough as a tank.
IMMORTAL WAR HERO Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 313	Posted - 2015.03.20 21:51:00 - [13] - Quote Mad Syringe wrote: Nope, it was a pub, and some scrub put links on the mushroom, which lead to half the team spawning there. We obviously lost. Near the end I spawned there as well, and tried to at least get the derpship, but no such luck! That thing was tough as a tank. well if you couldn't kill him i know for a fact you were pissing him off lol Frowned upon by amateurs: The object of war is not to die for your country but make the other bastard die for his. GSP
Mad Syringe ReDust Inc. 573	Posted - 2015.03.20 21:55:00 - [14] - Quote IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote: well if you couldn't kill him i know for a fact you were pissing him off lol Should have asked for his fit, It was definitely super hardened...
MrShooter01 Ustio Mercenary Squadron 1491	Posted - 2015.03.20 21:58:00 - [15] - Quote Mad Syringe wrote: Don't know that, had a python yesterday hovering around the biomass mushroom with impunity, he tanked 2 clips of a maxed wiyrkomy from a lv5 minmando with 2 kplx damage mods. And I was not the only AV shooting at him... Don't know his fit, but there seems to be a way to make the Python work... He flew away casually in the end... Mad Syringe wrote: Nope, it was a pub, and some scrub put links on the mushroom, which lead to half the team spawning there. We obviously lost. Near the end I spawned there as well, and tried to at least get the derpship, but no such luck! That thing was tough as a tank. I'm sorry, the current forum narrative is "vehicles are underpowered victims" and "EZmode AV wins 100% of the time" Please re-word your posts so that the ADS pilot sounds disadvantaged by your actions in some way
Mad Syringe ReDust Inc. 573	Posted - 2015.03.20 22:05:00 - [16] - Quote MrShooter01 wrote: Mad Syringe wrote: Don't know that, had a python yesterday hovering around the biomass mushroom with impunity, he tanked 2 clips of a maxed wiyrkomy from a lv5 minmando with 2 kplx damage mods. And I was not the only AV shooting at him... Don't know his fit, but there seems to be a way to make the Python work... He flew away casually in the end... Mad Syringe wrote: Nope, it was a pub, and some scrub put links on the mushroom, which lead to half the team spawning there. We obviously lost. Near the end I spawned there as well, and tried to at least get the derpship, but no such luck! That thing was tough as a tank. I'm sorry, the current forum narrative is "vehicles are underpowered victims" and "EZmode AV wins 100% of the time" Please re-word your posts so that the ADS pilot sounds disadvantaged by your actions in some way Yeah, he was at a disadvantage, because he couldn't strafe as fast as I was dancing around his XT missiles. Otherwise I think he might have wanted to enjoy the view a little longer, but he had to leave casually short before his hardener went down. Seriously, that Python was maxed, and he had a very good fit. He got a hit before the hardener went up, but that was no proto AV. As soon as the hardener (or two) where up, he was invincible. He may have had a bad day, if the PLC guy had hit him, but no such luck...
Doshneil Antaro Dem Durrty Boyz General Tso's Alliance 325	Posted - 2015.03.20 23:37:00 - [17] - Quote Mad Syringe wrote: MrShooter01 wrote: Mad Syringe wrote: Don't know that, had a python yesterday hovering around the biomass mushroom with impunity, he tanked 2 clips of a maxed wiyrkomy from a lv5 minmando with 2 kplx damage mods. And I was not the only AV shooting at him... Don't know his fit, but there seems to be a way to make the Python work... He flew away casually in the end... Mad Syringe wrote: Nope, it was a pub, and some scrub put links on the mushroom, which lead to half the team spawning there. We obviously lost. Near the end I spawned there as well, and tried to at least get the derpship, but no such luck! That thing was tough as a tank. I'm sorry, the current forum narrative is "vehicles are underpowered victims" and "EZmode AV wins 100% of the time" Please re-word your posts so that the ADS pilot sounds disadvantaged by your actions in some way Yeah, he was at a disadvantage, because he couldn't strafe as fast as I was dancing around his XT missiles. Otherwise I think he might have wanted to enjoy the view a little longer, but he had to leave casually short before his hardener went down. Seriously, that Python was maxed, and he had a very good fit. He got a hit before the hardener went up, but that was no proto AV. As soon as the hardener (or two) where up, he was invincible. He may have had a bad day, if the PLC guy had hit him, but no such luck... damn, even with 2 complex hardeners, I cannot survive 1 clip from a minmando. I sold off all my hardners in lieu of other mods . I usually only die to being rammed or being careless since the ditch. Than again, I spend more time fleeing than fighting. Sage /thread
Echo 1991 Titans of Phoenix 762	Posted - 2015.03.20 23:55:00 - [18] - Quote Doshneil Antaro wrote: Mad Syringe wrote: MrShooter01 wrote: Mad Syringe wrote: Don't know that, had a python yesterday hovering around the biomass mushroom with impunity, he tanked 2 clips of a maxed wiyrkomy from a lv5 minmando with 2 kplx damage mods. And I was not the only AV shooting at him... Don't know his fit, but there seems to be a way to make the Python work... He flew away casually in the end... Mad Syringe wrote: Nope, it was a pub, and some scrub put links on the mushroom, which lead to half the team spawning there. We obviously lost. Near the end I spawned there as well, and tried to at least get the derpship, but no such luck! That thing was tough as a tank. I'm sorry, the current forum narrative is "vehicles are underpowered victims" and "EZmode AV wins 100% of the time" Please re-word your posts so that the ADS pilot sounds disadvantaged by your actions in some way Yeah, he was at a disadvantage, because he couldn't strafe as fast as I was dancing around his XT missiles. Otherwise I think he might have wanted to enjoy the view a little longer, but he had to leave casually short before his hardener went down. Seriously, that Python was maxed, and he had a very good fit. He got a hit before the hardener went up, but that was no proto AV. As soon as the hardener (or two) where up, he was invincible. He may have had a bad day, if the PLC guy had hit him, but no such luck... damn, even with 2 complex hardeners, I cannot survive 1 clip from a minmando. I sold off all my hardners in lieu of other mods . I usually only die to being rammed or being careless since the ditch. Than again, I spend more time fleeing than fighting. Don't talk bullshit, you have over 70% resists with 2 hardeners.
Lupus Wolf Minmatar Republic 181	Posted - 2015.03.21 01:28:00 - [19] - Quote hails8n wrote: IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote: from my experience a python does not need health it just needs to be speedy Needs to be recycled, because its a tin can. All the ads nerfs so far: Massive rof Nerf, afterburner Nerf, massive swarm buff, installation buff, recall time Nerf, recent fitting capacity nerf(making half of my python fits invalid), tank buff(just try taking out a rep Maddy with an ads or a shield tanked gunlogi), lot of other things that make it not worth it like tapping walls, getting a lag spike crash and burning midair with nothing around , map fatalities(MCC/ node cannon missles hitting you from odd camera angles). Lastly Rattatis random statistics saying ads pilots are going 20/0, therefore balanced. I was going after a Gv.0 yesterday in an angry rage (He and his squad buddies killed two of my tanks), flying straight at him and was just pulling up when I got a giant lag spike from a friendly orbital and I slammed into the ground and died. Pretty hilarious when you think about it, I bet they got a laugh. EDIT: P.S. Python sucks, Incubus Rules! Redundant Usernames FTW Neigh! Incubi RULE! Pythons suck. 30% Logi, 30% Tanker, 40% Pilot
Sir Dukey G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1946	Posted - 2015.03.21 01:57:00 - [20] - Quote IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote: from my experience a python does not need health it just needs to be speedy Yeah, that would be the case if it wasn't for unavoidable swarms. "Skill for thee but no skill for me" so is the saying of the swarm infantry.

Sir Dukey G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1947	Posted - 2015.03.21 02:00:00 - [21] - Quote Mad Syringe wrote: Don't know that, had a python yesterday hovering around the biomass mushroom with impunity, he tanked 2 clips of a maxed wiyrkomy from a lv5 minmando with 2 kplx damage mods. And I was not the only AV shooting at him... Don't know his fit, but there seems to be a way to make the Python work... He flew away casually in the end... Are you shooting him with one swarm like every 5 minutes? No way is that possible. People on the forums seem to come up with these fake scenarios to support their real side. "Skill for thee but no skill for me" so is the saying of the swarm infantry.
Shamarskii Simon The Hundred Acre Hood 201	Posted - 2015.03.21 04:55:00 - [22] - Quote Mad Syringe wrote: Don't know that, had a python yesterday hovering around the biomass mushroom with impunity, he tanked 2 clips of a maxed wiyrkomy from a lv5 minmando with 2 kplx damage mods. And I was not the only AV shooting at him... Don't know his fit, but there seems to be a way to make the Python work... He flew away casually in the end... Might have been Me, if it was a dom, and sometimes the python just flew over and did random flybys. Once in awhile it stopped and shot up the place? If that's yes, it was most likely me... No one ever rocks a special fit. I read the rest of the forum! Was it state XT? Cause if it was, It was me! Entering the void and becoming wind. Message for 1v1 air to air
Mad Syringe ReDust Inc. 581	Posted - 2015.03.22 18:35:00 - [23] - Quote Jepp, speedy flybys for a while, and then towards the end, you where just circlestrafing and defo tanked two full clips from a absolutely MAXED minmando. I can't shoot any faster than I did, and I have everything maxed (reload obviosly as well). Congrats, for that fit, would you mind to share, maybe in a mail? This is definitely no single event, I always have said, that there are Python fits/pilots in the game, that do not need to be to concerned even with maxed swarms. As long as they don't get jumped by a maxed swarm without warning, they have no probs.
DUST Fiend 16160	Posted - 2015.03.22 18:40:00 - [24] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: Don't talk bullshit, you have over 70% resists with 2 hardeners. And shields don't regen while taking damage....even with two hardeners a single swarmer will keep you from regenerating HP just by continuing to shoot auto aim at you. Also with the hardener nerf, I'm really curious what the rest of his fit was. He must have been paper thin with no afterburner. Basically only good for that single push, then off to the sky for a minute to wait for that tiny window of opportunity again. God forbid you guys had a single rail tank on your side. Contests, Sales, Writing etc Fly Safe
Mad Syringe ReDust Inc. 581	Posted - 2015.03.22 18:57:00 - [25] - Quote No, as I said, we were all on that roof at this point. They stomped us pretty bad. If there had been a PLC guy with some aim, we might have given him some headaches, but as it was, he defo tanked two full clips in the shortest time possible (shooting wise). I had no obstructions so lockon was instantly, and I usually release the swarms short before lockon gets signaled.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. 3116	Posted - 2015.03.22 19:49:00 - [26] - Quote Mad Syringe wrote: Don't know that, had a python yesterday hovering around the biomass mushroom with impunity, he tanked 2 clips of a maxed wiyrkomy from a lv5 minmando with 2 kplx damage mods. And I was not the only AV shooting at him... Don't know his fit, but there seems to be a way to make the Python work... He flew away casually in the end... I don't believe that for a second. Nope. Confirming that pilot input is not, and never was, valued. - Breakin Stuff
Shamarskii Simon The Hundred Acre Hood 209	Posted - 2015.03.22 19:52:00 - [27] - Quote Mad Syringe wrote: Jepp, speedy flybys for a while, and then towards the end, you where just circlestrafing and defo tanked two full clips from a absolutely MAXED minmando. I can't shoot any faster than I did, and I have everything maxed (reload obviosly as well). Congrats, for that fit, would you mind to share, maybe in a mail? This is definitely no single event, I always have said, that there are Python fits/pilots in the game, that do not need to be to concerned even with maxed swarms. As long as they don't get jumped by a maxed swarm without warning, they have no probs. Mail me, I'll tell you. Keep it between we Entering the void and becoming wind. Message for 1v1 air to air
Mad Syringe ReDust Inc. 582	Posted - 2015.03.22 20:08:00 - [28] - Quote Well, my theory is, that if you put on enough hardeners, AV doesn't do enough damage to interrupt the regen... And yes I won't spread the details of your fit bro.
DUST Fiend 16163	Posted - 2015.03.22 20:26:00 - [29] - Quote Mad Syringe wrote: Well, my theory is, that if you put on enough hardeners, AV doesn't do enough damage to interrupt the regen... And yes I won't spread the details of your fit bro. Well you can fit up to three, and a three hardener fit means non proto hardeners, and base HP, soo... Contests, Sales, Writing etc Fly Safe
Mad Syringe ReDust Inc. 583	Posted - 2015.03.22 20:59:00 - [30] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Mad Syringe wrote: Well, my theory is, that if you put on enough hardeners, AV doesn't do enough damage to interrupt the regen... And yes I won't spread the details of your fit bro. Well you can fit up to three, and a three hardener fit means non proto hardeners, and base HP, soo... The only thing I can say though, that the only times I was getting wasted by Derpships, it was Pythons that didn't take any considerable damage from me. And believe me, I have spoiled the fun for a lot of derpships. Incubi went down fast before the patch, usually one clip. Pythons usually survived longer, but got wasted eventually. But there are a select few, who seem to run mostly hardners, which can survive without breaking a sweat. And if they hit me with XTs, they will get me fast, since I only have damage and regen on my minmandos. These fits might not work for everybody, but in the right hands, they are exactly what the Rat wanted, waves of opportunity. And if you have your vehicle upgrades maxed, the cooldowns won't take very long...

Shamarskii Simon The Hundred Acre Hood 212	Posted - 2015.03.22 21:30:00 - [31] - Quote "Things aren't always what it seems" "sometimes the truest truth sounds like a lie." believe him. There were about 4 swarms and one PLC. Entering the void and becoming wind. Message for 1v1 air to air
Mad Syringe ReDust Inc. 586	Posted - 2015.03.22 21:42:00 - [32] - Quote Well, I just tried the fit, I had to put a complex CPU upgrade on and only an advanced launcher, but it works. As long as the hardeners are up, you basically are invincible. This is actually a good enough incentive to get the module skills up for my derpships... right now, my duration and cooldown skill is only lv2 and fitting also at 2, so much room for improvement.


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"Skill for thee but no skill for me" so is the saying of the swarm infantry.

"Skill for thee but no skill for me" so is the saying of the swarm infantry.