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Lady MDK
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.03.19 18:50:00 -
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ok we have a shiney new eve trailer : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3060a8NkOk
It is a well known fact that the tech that makes immortal DUST mercs possible is the implant harvested from sleeper bodies found in wormhole space - it is even part of the intro film to dust.
Yet in this new trailer if you listen around 1:10 the voiceover says the sleepers are harvesting bodies because theirs have withered away?? WTF CCP?
Is dust being written out of eve lore here or what?
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy
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Posted - 2015.03.19 18:51:00 -
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Who said WE are sleepers?
They can wither away if they aren't being constantly replaced like ours... Duh.
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Lady MDK
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.03.19 18:54:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:Who said WE are sleepers?
They can wither away if they aren't being constantly replaced like ours... Duh.
We aren't the sleepers but the impants in our heads were taken from sleepers at least that's how I follow Templar one the book and the movie at the start of dust.... I never said we were sleepers.
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DeadlyAztec11
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
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Posted - 2015.03.19 18:56:00 -
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Sleepers Gëá Dust Mercs
We clone ourselves everytime we die, sleepers don't. It's possible that they just don't have the technology to clone.
I'm just guessing here since I can't watch the trailer at this time.
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Avallo Kantor
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Posted - 2015.03.19 18:59:00 -
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Basically we grave robbed.
The sleepers, probably, exist with their minds purely on the virtual network (thus "sleepers")
We stole the implants in their old bodies (now corpses mostly) and over-rode their save files with our stuff to make mercs ver 1.
Bad Stuff happens with salvaged tech.
We use tech, make new things based off of it, leading to current gen mercs.
Sleepers meanwhile are trying to get back from their virtual realities, but they are missing bodies / other bodies unable to sustain a living person. So they start to salvage, and who better than those who conveniently sent out all sorts of data unwittingly on their own tech? (Mercs ver 1)
If anything, all this stuff with sleepers is DIRECTLY CAUSED BY Dust Merc Origins. |
Michael Epic
Horizons' Edge
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Posted - 2015.03.19 18:59:00 -
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Did you actually WATCH the trailer, Lady MDK?
I mean...seriously. Troll post?
Totally unrelated....I doubt the sleepers want to become Dust mercs and rock dropsuits.
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
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Posted - 2015.03.19 19:01:00 -
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If I remember correctly, the current chip is made by each of the Empires rather than still being Sleeper based. I believe that was the whole Templar event, to kill off the last of the Sleeper chips.
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Gregor stormwalker
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.03.19 19:02:00 -
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the sleepers bodies can be dead but the implants still viable. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
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Posted - 2015.03.19 19:08:00 -
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According the Templar One Sleepers were being killed and harvested for there implants which they were able to give to mercs to make them immortal.
Which is us.
The tech escaped via the last remaining templar who was saved by Mordu Legion forces on the ground and from then reversed engineered and all parts of the empire gained from it.
Seems like the sleepers are pissed and want revenge.
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Lady MDK
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
329
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Posted - 2015.03.19 19:16:00 -
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Michael Epic wrote:Did you actually WATCH the trailer, Lady MDK?
I mean...seriously. Troll post?
Totally unrelated....I doubt the sleepers want to become Dust mercs and rock dropsuits.
Yes i did... Did you actually read the post?
Quote: According the Templar One Sleepers were being killed and harvested for there implants which they were able to give to mercs to make them immortal.
Which is us.
The tech escaped via the last remaining templar who was saved by Mordu Legion forces on the ground and from then reversed engineered and all parts of the empire gained from it.
Seems like the sleepers are pissed and want revenge.
See this guy gets it. Yet in the trailer it says there bodies have withred, says nothing about capsuleers/new eden folks stealing them to steal the tech to make mercs.
Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following.
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Nirwanda Vaughns
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Posted - 2015.03.19 19:19:00 -
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Originally the first Templars that Amarr created were made using harvested implants but if you read the book those were destroyed when it was revealed that the 'being' which possessed Jamyl Sarum orchestrated the plan to kill the sleepers in their Matrix style world. each 'Sleeper' was kinda like a human in the powerplant and when they removed the bodies/.ikplants they killed the consciousmness of the sleepers.
At the end of the book, Gallente, Ishukone and Mordus Legion all band together to reverse engineer the implant in Mens Reppola/Mia Gariushis little deadpsace pocket. the same research lab as Insorum.
So the implants us mercs are created from are those ones and not the harvested sleeper implants
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Avallo Kantor
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Posted - 2015.03.19 19:51:00 -
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Mmany researchers / explorers theorize that the Sleepers went into their VR reality because of a situation similar to the jovian disease, i.e they were all sick and dying.
To ensure they did not die, they suspended their race, went into the VR to live / seek a cure.
We mucked around and caused some trouble by causing some destruction (and stealing a few chips, thus killing some of them)
Now that they are back, they have to have some solution to the issue which made them all need to "sleep" in the first place. Part of that plan seems to be salvaging people.
in short: The sleepers are basically all stage 4 cancer patients who just found out how to get a new lease on life: using us (Residents of New Eden) |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2015.03.19 19:56:00 -
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We yanked out the implants; and this is likely what caused the issues of the immortal soldiers going insane as the two consciousnesses fought for dominance.
Also they're not after any regular ole bodies; they're after high quality immortal clones; the kind you can only get from capsuleer ships.
We're only rated for 5 years life span or less based on wear and tear. Capsuleers are rated for as long as they can mentally keep it together.
Lore also dictates that the sleepers did have some sort of more serious kind of disease that we are luckily immune to. Because whatever wiped them out also wiped out the Talocan and unlike the Talocan they didn't have access to quasi-immortal technology.
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bolsh lee
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
1550
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Posted - 2015.03.19 20:11:00 -
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I don't want to be optimistic when it comes to Legion anymore but it almost sounds like they are setting it up for Legion.. (as well as EVE content first obviously) Templar One talks a lot about Jove/sleeper tech... |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
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Posted - 2015.03.19 21:21:00 -
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I'm just going to be "that guy" who says that this trailer was EVE-O lore first and foremost and did not consider DUST or Valkyrie for a second during production.
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Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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steadyhand amarr
shadows of 514
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Posted - 2015.03.19 21:36:00 -
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uuuhhh this is setting up to be something lot bigger tbh a expect big changes are afoot,
also yeh the sleepers are gunna be pissed like epic pissed we basicly broke their haven and massacrer their people their is a rule.
every body in the system, must have a body out of the system, so we started yanking and blowing **** up we where killing them and they are going to want some epic revenge with scary tech.
You can never have to many chaples
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.03.19 22:57:00 -
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Lady MDK wrote:Michael Epic wrote:Did you actually WATCH the trailer, Lady MDK?
I mean...seriously. Troll post?
Totally unrelated....I doubt the sleepers want to become Dust mercs and rock dropsuits. Yes i did... Did you actually read the post? At no point did i say we were sleepers or that sleepers want to be mercs, geez. Quote: According the Templar One Sleepers were being killed and harvested for there implants which they were able to give to mercs to make them immortal.
Which is us.
The tech escaped via the last remaining templar who was saved by Mordu Legion forces on the ground and from then reversed engineered and all parts of the empire gained from it.
Seems like the sleepers are pissed and want revenge.
See this guy gets it. Yet in the trailer it says there bodies have withred, says nothing about capsuleers/new eden folks stealing them to steal the tech to make mercs.
Which is why it was such a big deal when they found an intact body and implant to reverse engineer. Most sleeper bodies are completely gone or unsalvageable. Its not being written out at all. It fits together perfectly.
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