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Himiko Kuronaga
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Posted - 2015.03.19 18:39:00 -
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In regards to Legion "We're still exploring what we want to do with Legion."
In regards to Dust "We're sticking with Dust."
Good lord man, you can't have it both ways.
Just man up, cancel Legion officially. Put those resources back into Dust and give us a port to PS4. Your playerbase will more than double right off the bat, and you'll actually have a platform to do interesting stuff that can handle it. You aren't a Valve FPS and it was never going to work for you guys on PC especially since you never had the police force or methods to adequately combat hackers ruining the game in the first place.
And seriously, your upper management needs to learn to stop chasing trends and focus on your existing products. I'm losing count of how many times this attitude has bit your company in the ass now. This VR garbage is going to cost you millions, mark my words.
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Himiko Kuronaga
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Posted - 2015.03.20 03:02:00 -
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:In regards to Legion "We're still exploring what we want to do with Legion."
In regards to Dust "We're sticking with Dust."
Good lord man, you can't have it both ways.
Just man up, cancel Legion officially. Put those resources back into Dust and give us a port to PS4. Your playerbase will more than double right off the bat, and you'll actually have a platform to do interesting stuff that can handle it. You aren't a Valve FPS and it was never going to work for you guys on PC especially since you never had the police force or methods to adequately combat hackers ruining the game in the first place.
And seriously, your upper management needs to learn to stop chasing trends and focus on your existing products. I'm losing count of how many times this attitude has bit your company in the ass now. This VR garbage is going to cost you millions, mark my words. Because they definitely have not been combating hackers in Eve for 12 years.
Is that supposed to be sarcasm? Because they haven't been. I once ratted out over a dozen accounts who were actively botting and not a single one of them got a ban. This wasn't a blind accusation either -- I personally knew the people doing it. That's how inefficient they are.
Furthermore, legit hacking in EVE requires changing the data the server is getting. Hacking in an FPS simply requires a secondary program to recognize objects rendered and control where your screen centers. It is ridiculously easy to hack an FPS and that is why every FPS has hacks provided.
Server side stat hacking is a totally different beast.
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.03.20 10:30:00 -
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My only hands on experience with PS3/PS4 crossplay has been Guilty Gear Xrd and it was a flawless experience.
It can be done. It is a very viable thing, and it would do this game a lot of justice.
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Himiko Kuronaga
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Posted - 2015.03.20 12:24:00 -
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Laurent Cazaderon wrote:Kain Spero wrote:The thing is Caz by making Dust 514 cross play you allow it to maintain one of its strongest anchors: its social and its community. As CCP Rattati said during the panel today Dust is made up of 50% new players and 50% people that just won't leave. Give them the opportunity to stay and give them time to transition to PS4. Crossplay would also make perfect sense for the transitional period we are in right now. You can already see crossplay games that are wildly popular like Helldivers : http://blog.us.playstation.com/2015/03/03/helldivers-launches-today-for-ps4-ps3-ps-vita/CCP will need time to build out features that put Dust 514 beyond the reach of the PS3's capabilities. While those are being developed allow them to capitalize on income streams from both the PS3 and PS4 communities. CCP could also do with a community and good faith victory that transitioning fully to next gen over time would provide. Except you need a solid game to make this happend. RLZ Dust as is on PS4 and i guarantee you'll get no players out of the PS4 player base. Again the port to PS4 makes sense in the big picture, but tbh i m pretty convinced it's way too late for that. Dust should have gone dark 2 years ago when head development should have noticed this was going nowhere. And then re-think the choice of the PS3 as platform and basic gameplay mecanics (such as tiers and game modes. Or Tiers vs Game modes depending on your POV) I know i'm preaching to the choir here as you have been a big supporter of the "Go FF XIV move" at some point
Define "as is".
Higher quality textures, shaders, and effects are available and ready for use. The PS3 just can't handle them. Performance would also increase to the point we could manage 60 fps which would make an insane gameplay difference.
PS4 specific modes could also drastically player count in matches. Another major gameplay difference.
You're saying if it was released "as is" nobody would play it on PS4. But that's blind pessimism at best. If people are willing to play the game in the current state that its in, they are also going to be willing to play it in a better state.
The game doesn't need a complete reboot. It just needs to be built in a modular fashion. Expanding to PS4 will allow it to do that, and eventually PS3 can be phased out. PS3 can simply maintain the game modes it has now while PS4 can get the new stuff it can't handle.
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Himiko Kuronaga
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Posted - 2015.03.20 14:44:00 -
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Luk Manag wrote:The goal for Valkyrie is apparently competitive PvP. That is the "razor" that cuts through all of the other features (but it still has a campaign?).
In my opinion, they would need to scrap the Unreal engine and rebuild on their original engine or license a modern FPS engine to achieve mass appeal in a competitive FPS.
Their original engine is bad. It never worked properly and was never meant for Dust. That was a marketing miscommunication.
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Himiko Kuronaga
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Posted - 2015.03.20 16:47:00 -
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Dust is now profitable, apparently.
http://www.polygon.com/2015/3/20/8263823/playstation-3-exclusive-dust-514-is-now-a-profitable-game-for-ccp
Looks like Hilmar may well be considering it now, though he's not ready to pull the trigger yet. We should be pushing for PS4 development to start and, at the very least, for Rattati to get more resources.
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Himiko Kuronaga
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Posted - 2015.03.20 17:41:00 -
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They weren't the same thing. Legion was meant to succeed Dust, yes. But Legion was an attempt to take Dust and turn it into a different (mechanically worse) game.
So while assets should be taken from Legion, the concept should stay dead and buried. Particularly the skill tree and item destruction concepts that CCP Z came up with, which were horrifyingly bad and would ruin the game overnight.
The sandboxy stuff I'm not altogether against as long as it exists as a side-thing.
And PC is an absolute no. Hackers are a pox to competitive gaming and CCP simply does not have the capability to combat them in an FPS.
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Himiko Kuronaga
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Posted - 2015.03.20 20:00:00 -
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Hackers are a pox to competitive gaming and CCP simply does not have the capability to combat them in an FPS. Yea because CCP has not been dealing with security in a PC game for roughly 12 years now.
Himiko Kuronaga wrote:LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:In regards to Legion "We're still exploring what we want to do with Legion."
In regards to Dust "We're sticking with Dust."
Good lord man, you can't have it both ways.
Just man up, cancel Legion officially. Put those resources back into Dust and give us a port to PS4. Your playerbase will more than double right off the bat, and you'll actually have a platform to do interesting stuff that can handle it. You aren't a Valve FPS and it was never going to work for you guys on PC especially since you never had the police force or methods to adequately combat hackers ruining the game in the first place.
And seriously, your upper management needs to learn to stop chasing trends and focus on your existing products. I'm losing count of how many times this attitude has bit your company in the ass now. This VR garbage is going to cost you millions, mark my words. Because they definitely have not been combating hackers in Eve for 12 years. Is that supposed to be sarcasm? Because they haven't been. I once ratted out over a dozen accounts who were actively botting and not a single one of them got a ban. This wasn't a blind accusation either -- I personally knew the people doing it. That's how inefficient they are. Furthermore, legit hacking in EVE requires changing the data the server is getting. Hacking in an FPS simply requires a secondary program to recognize objects rendered and control where your screen centers. It is ridiculously easy to hack an FPS and that is why every FPS has hacks provided. Server side stat hacking is a totally different beast.
Hey look its a time loop.
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.03.20 22:56:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:I think your whole argument of "hackers hack FPS games thus it shouldn't be made for PC" is just ridiculous. Yes, hackers have been an issue since the dawn of gaming, but the majority of competitive FPS games have kept up with security. It's a constant tug-o-war, but hackers are typically less than 1% of the community.
Games like CS:GO, Battlefield, Call of Duty, all have their hackers as well as their ban waves and these serve nothing but to give more profit to these games because hackers will often buy a game again on a separate account after they've been banned. The systems used (VAC, EasyAntiCheat, Battleye, Warden, etc.) are all constantly updated and catch every hacker eventually.
And you have to think that in DUST progression is based on skill points which is based on time. If a hacker wants to burn a bunch of 500,000 SP accounts to have his perverted version of fun, then have at it. Any idiot who would risk his 10+ million SP for a chance at some free headshots will get his due accordingly. There's very, very few games where hackers got to the point where it broke the game.
Please, if you're going to try and make an argument against the PC, at least make it a good one.
Hackers are not a problem for consoles. Not in general. Incredibly rare. I've seen it once in Dust ever, and it was hilarious. Guy was punching people across the map.
You look at FPS on PC with the lens of unrealistic virtue. Not going to work with me, I'm a PC gamer too. PC problems can stay in PC land. There is zero benefit to subjecting our game to it.
So let's say I'm a hacker, but I'm not hacking for progression. I'm hacking purely to ruin your experience. What the hell are you going to do to stop me? The game is free, accounts are free, I can change my IP anytime I want. There is no punishment.
You can do nothing. CCP can do nothing.
Understand the problem yet?
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