DUST Search - Concerning Vehicles

True Adamance wrote:

Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote:

As of today I am officially done with tanking. It's a useless ISK sink. The Devs who try to put some sort of effort into making vehicles vs AV viable and even have failed again and again on this matter. It's either one tank stronger than the other or ADS being OP or AV being OP.

* For vehicles and AV you simply cannot rely upon data from a computer to help you balance them.

*You must see first-hand if swarms are acting the way the are supposed to, not just from ground but from the ADS itself as well. (Invisible swarms still relevant)

* You must see the way people respond on the battlefield first-hand with taking out vehicles to see ways to improve on it or Nerf it.

*Everyone gets killed and gets kills with vehicles in a wide variety of ways, simple numbers can't tell you that.

I'm going to skill out of Tanks completely and make use of my ADS still. I hope you won't make me change my mind of keeping my ADS.

(I had tanks at 5, all large turrets at 5 with proficiency 4 and optimization at 3.)

You are having trouble with tanks this build?

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Apocalyptic Destroyer Killers 4 Hire 334	Posted - 2015.03.18 05:33:00 - [1] - Quote As of today I am officially done with tanking. It's a useless ISK sink. The Devs who try to put some sort of effort into making vehicles vs AV viable and even have failed again and again on this matter. It's either one tank stronger than the other or ADS being OP or AV being OP. * For vehicles and AV you simply cannot rely upon data from a computer to help you balance them. You must see first-hand if swarms are acting the way the are supposed to, not just from ground but from the ADS itself as well. (Invisible swarms still relevant) You must see the way people respond on the battlefield first-hand with taking out vehicles to see ways to improve on it or Nerf it. *Everyone gets killed and gets kills with vehicles in a wide variety of ways, simple numbers can't tell you that. I'm going to skill out of Tanks completely and make use of my ADS still. I hope you won't make me change my mind of keeping my ADS. (I had tanks at 5, all large turrets at 5 with proficiency 4 and optimization at 3.) True Amarr In Disguise Pain is weakness leaving the body Proto : ADS Pilot Ak.0 : Mando, Scout, Assault
Lupus Wolf Minmatar Republic 168	Posted - 2015.03.18 05:37:00 - [2] - Quote How to vehicle: ADS: always run. Tanks: Make sure your hardeners are on. If not, run. LAV: Don't. Redundant Usernames FTW Neigh! Incubi RULE! Pythons suck. 30% Logi, 30% Tanker, 40% Pilot
SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 395	Posted - 2015.03.18 05:38:00 - [3] - Quote FIXED Lupus Wolf wrote: How to vehicle: ADS: always run. Tanks: Make sure your hardeners are on. If not, run. LAV: Jihad One cannot carry hatred without having once loved. NKing the forums one thread at a time
hold that Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 713	Posted - 2015.03.18 05:39:00 - [4] - Quote you think ADS is better off than tanks?
Apocalyptic Destroyer Killers 4 Hire 334	Posted - 2015.03.18 05:39:00 - [5] - Quote Lupus Wolf wrote: How to vehicle: ADS: always run. Tanks: Make sure your hardeners are on. If not, run. LAV: Don't. I can actually get kills in my ADS I have proto small turrets and good fits ! :-D just that tanking is so god awful. True Amarr In Disguise Pain is weakness leaving the body Proto : ADS Pilot Ak.0 : Mando, Scout, Assault
Apocalyptic Destroyer Killers 4 Hire 334	Posted - 2015.03.18 05:40:00 - [6] - Quote hold that wrote: you think ADS is better off than tanks? For me it is, I know how to ADS, I know when to get the hell out of there. I have incubi and pythons True Amarr In Disguise Pain is weakness leaving the body Proto : ADS Pilot Ak.0 : Mando, Scout, Assault
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17734	Posted - 2015.03.18 06:54:00 - [7] - Quote Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote: As of today I am officially done with tanking. It's a useless ISK sink. The Devs who try to put some sort of effort into making vehicles vs AV viable and even have failed again and again on this matter. It's either one tank stronger than the other or ADS being OP or AV being OP. * For vehicles and AV you simply cannot rely upon data from a computer to help you balance them. You must see first-hand if swarms are acting the way the are supposed to, not just from ground but from the ADS itself as well. (Invisible swarms still relevant) You must see the way people respond on the battlefield first-hand with taking out vehicles to see ways to improve on it or Nerf it. *Everyone gets killed and gets kills with vehicles in a wide variety of ways, simple numbers can't tell you that. I'm going to skill out of Tanks completely and make use of my ADS still. I hope you won't make me change my mind of keeping my ADS. (I had tanks at 5, all large turrets at 5 with proficiency 4 and optimization at 3.) You are having trouble with tanks this build? Raphael: I'm warning you. Do not leave me here. I will find you. Castiel: Maybe one day. Today you're my little bitch
Alena Ventrallis Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 2745	Posted - 2015.03.18 07:21:00 - [8] - Quote If you're struggling with tanks this build, perhaps it's time to spec into something more your speed. I'm having the time of my life, and once they fix small blaster dispersion it will be even better. Listen to my muscle memory Contemplate what I've been clinging to Forty-six and two ahead of me
Apocalyptic Destroyer Killers 4 Hire 339	Posted - 2015.03.18 10:50:00 - [9] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote: As of today I am officially done with tanking. It's a useless ISK sink. The Devs who try to put some sort of effort into making vehicles vs AV viable and even have failed again and again on this matter. It's either one tank stronger than the other or ADS being OP or AV being OP. * For vehicles and AV you simply cannot rely upon data from a computer to help you balance them. You must see first-hand if swarms are acting the way the are supposed to, not just from ground but from the ADS itself as well. (Invisible swarms still relevant) You must see the way people respond on the battlefield first-hand with taking out vehicles to see ways to improve on it or Nerf it. *Everyone gets killed and gets kills with vehicles in a wide variety of ways, simple numbers can't tell you that. I'm going to skill out of Tanks completely and make use of my ADS still. I hope you won't make me change my mind of keeping my ADS. (I had tanks at 5, all large turrets at 5 with proficiency 4 and optimization at 3.) You are having trouble with tanks this build? Yes True Amarr In Disguise Pain is weakness leaving the body Proto : ADS Pilot Ak.0 : Mando, Scout, Assault
Ghosts Chance Intara Direct Action Caldari State 3013	Posted - 2015.03.18 11:12:00 - [10] - Quote my railtank is either nearly invincable or instagibbs other tanks :P prema hardeners FTW. my 3 sman squad in the railtank nets 30ish kills a game and unless i do something stupid or insane it lives forever. Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost

Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. 4271	Posted - 2015.03.18 11:23:00 - [11] - Quote OP as much as i agree with you that to find out how things work and operate in the game that you actually have to play the game yourself and not be a spreadsheet warrior it seems that other members of the community and CCP do not agree and will continue to make bad decisions based on lolpubs. This is what is killing vehicles. Disclaimer: The above post is respectful, contains no ranting, contains no personal attacks, contains no trolling, contains no racism, contains no discrimination, contains no profanity, contains no spamming. This post is an opinion and is related to DUST514 CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy 2839	Posted - 2015.03.18 13:09:00 - [12] - Quote HAVs are fun now. For me at least. I had mostly stopped tanking through the past hotfixes because all of the tank battles consisted of pew pew pew BOOM! Yep, three fcking seconds and someone's dead. Not anymore though, its pretty good. I don't think missiles are doing too good though. Plasma Cannon :3 Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
Michael-J-Fox Richards The Scope Gallente Federation 256	Posted - 2015.03.18 13:20:00 - [13] - Quote if you having problems with tanking now you suck ass I got that john elway arm to proficiency level 5.
Apocalyptic Destroyer Killers 4 Hire 346	Posted - 2015.03.18 14:28:00 - [14] - Quote Michael-J-Fox Richards wrote: if you having problems with tanking now you suck ass Don't let me catch you on the field :-) True Amarr In Disguise Pain is weakness leaving the body Proto : ADS Pilot Ak.0 : Mando, Scout, Assault
Apocalyptic Destroyer Killers 4 Hire 346	Posted - 2015.03.18 14:29:00 - [15] - Quote I'm just don't with it entirely, it's not so much where I can fit a killing tank, there just all over the place with imbalances. True Amarr In Disguise Pain is weakness leaving the body Proto : ADS Pilot Ak.0 : Mando, Scout, Assault
Spkr4theDead Red Star. 3077	Posted - 2015.03.18 16:05:00 - [16] - Quote Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote: hold that wrote: you think ADS is better off than tanks? For me it is, I know how to ADS, I know when to get the hell out of there. I have incubi and pythons So tanks are too hard, yet you know how to fly? Something does not compute. Nope. Confirming that pilot input is not, and never was, valued. - Breakin Stuff
JIMvc2 Consolidated Dust 812	Posted - 2015.03.18 16:35:00 - [17] - Quote Is this because I killed you before Don't because I remember seeing you in a match. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! Die YOU SHADOW BEING IN THE DARK!!!
Apocalyptic Destroyer Killers 4 Hire 357	Posted - 2015.03.18 23:59:00 - [18] - Quote JIMvc2 wrote: Is this because I killed you before Don't lie because I remember seeing you in a match. I have no idea who you are. True Amarr In Disguise Pain is weakness leaving the body Proto : ADS Pilot Ak.0 : Mando, Scout, Assault
Apocalyptic Destroyer Killers 4 Hire 357	Posted - 2015.03.19 00:00:00 - [19] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote: hold that wrote: you think ADS is better off than tanks? For me it is, I know how to ADS, I know when to get the hell out of there. I have incubi and pythons So tanks are too hard, yet you know how to fly? Something does not compute. I was a tanker before I was a pilot. But flying stuck to me more because it's fun as hell. True Amarr In Disguise Pain is weakness leaving the body Proto : ADS Pilot Ak.0 : Mando, Scout, Assault
JIMvc2 Consolidated Dust 814	Posted - 2015.03.19 00:40:00 - [20] - Quote Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote: JIMvc2 wrote: Is this because I killed you before Don't lie because I remember seeing you in a match. I have no idea who you are. Don't play fool with me. Next time I'll bring my tank and see if you can "kill it" lol (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! Die YOU SHADOW BEING IN THE DARK!!!

Eruditus 920 Nemo Malus Felix 1503	Posted - 2015.03.19 00:54:00 - [21] - Quote Huzzah! Good luck in all your future endeavors. #childof1.7hearsblastertankinsleep "Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
DUST Fiend 16120	Posted - 2015.03.19 00:57:00 - [22] - Quote Why in gods name would you go from Tanks, which are WAY easier to use and have much better survivability, to ADS, which are WAY harder to use, and in this AV / Tank environment, are fragile as hell? Good luck o7 Contests, Sales, Writing etc Fly Safe
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17750	Posted - 2015.03.19 01:11:00 - [23] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Why in gods name would you go from Tanks, which are WAY easier to use and have much better survivability, to ADS, which are WAY harder to use, and in this AV / Tank environment, are fragile as hell? Good luck o7 Difference between using well and whelping infantry. Raphael: I'm warning you. Do not leave me here. I will find you. Castiel: Maybe one day. Today you're my little bitch


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