1. Support class is for supporting not slaying.
2. 4 eq slots + bonuses is equal to what other classes have
3. My assault fit costs me more, 210k+
4. Once again, logi - support, assault - slaying, scout - slaying with support capabilities, heavy - fat a**

I still don't know why Scouts have two Equipment slots. It is something that really bothers me considering that half of the Logistics in the game start with two slots. I know it was added so Scouts could all be about the Cloak but I wish there was something that made Scouts have to use Cloaks or even better have that slot only be able to fit a Cloak. Equipment should be the Logistics thing.

Equipment is really expensive, especially considering Prototype is so superior compared to Basic and Advanced. That is a potential issue and Rattati has made statements that they might look into the cost.

EHP is really not an issue. Think of it like this instead: If Logistics had an extra 150 EHP, why would you pick an Assault suit? Hell, I already run into that thought. Assaults may "have no downside" but they have zero upside. Most other suits get more than they give up for those bonuses. Assaults, not so much. Jeez, the only Assault that seems to be worth a darn is the Minmatar Assault and that is only because it gives up less than it receives; slightly less EHP and moving very, very fast. Otherwise, the only difference between a Frame and an Assault is a minor HP bonus and some lackluster bonuses to weapons.

So i was thinking how every suit has its downfalls and its upsides. For example : A scout has the mobility, but less armor. A heavy has armor, but is slow. An assault is fast, and powerful. Really no downside their. BUT A LOGi has a lot of downfalls and not very many good things.

So a logi has equipment slots, so what. My only survivable logis have no more than 450 Armor 200 Shields. That isnt anything when a logi has to take the most hits, besides the heavy. So tell me again why a logi has over half the amount of ehp as an assault, but yet an assault almost has the same amount of equipment slots.

Actually why does any suit have more than 1 equipment slot, except for a logi. Ohh.. so i get 60% less ehp, but its ok.. i get one more equipment slot and my suit cost 80,000 isk - 200,000 isk a suit.

I don't see why Scouts having 2 EQ slots in the Age of BW is still a problem.

1. Support class is for supporting not slaying.
2. 4 eq slots + bonuses is equal to what other classes have
3. My assault fit costs me more, 210k+
4. Once again, logi - support, assault - slaying, scout - slaying with support capabilities, heavy - fat a**

Thanks for responding, no matter how stupid it may be. It is just surprising if you think about it. Ohh.. well i brought this up before to CCP, but nothing has been done. Oh.. well. 07

Simple: it is more than possible to go Repair Tool + Needle/Uplink and be just as good as a Basic Amarr or Caldari Logistics. It has a little bit too much overlap. Yes, they are not able to throw out all the equipment but it still steps on the Logistics toes quite a bit. As big of a deal as it was pre-BW? No but still a concern that I have.

There are some problems with the Logistics as a role, yes, but the original poster is exaggerating some of the ones they brought up.

But you can always adjust the EQ, like giving Reps a capacitor, and then giving a Logi a bonus to Reps to increase capacitors.

There are always other solutions to problems, and sometimes simply removing X from the equation isn't always the best one.

ok but i can defend myself right? or an i just a punching bag. if thats the case rmove all equipment slots from assaults

So i was thinking how every suit has its downfalls and its upsides. For example : A scout has the mobility, but less armor. A heavy has armor, but is slow. An assault is fast, and powerful. Really no downside their. BUT A LOGi has a lot of downfalls and not very many good things.

So a logi has equipment slots, so what. My only survivable logis have no more than 450 Armor 200 Shields. That isnt anything when a logi has to take the most hits, besides the heavy. So tell me again why a logi has over half the amount of ehp as an assault, but yet an assault almost has the same amount of equipment slots.

Actually why does any suit have more than 1 equipment slot, except for a logi. Ohh.. so i get 60% less ehp, but its ok.. i get one more equipment slot and my suit cost 80,000 isk - 200,000 isk a suit.

All the support bonuses and equipment in the world are pointless if the suit dies too quickly to be of any use.

There seems to be a general mentality that any sort of buff to the Logistics survivability will result in "OMFG SLAYER LOGI" but the fact remains that this mentality it....well completely stupid. The survivability between a Logistics suit and an Assault suit is far too large, and you can still buff the Logistics in terms of survivability and they will still be behind the Assault in terms of defense.

The fact remains that yes, you will get killed by Logistics sometimes. It's a FPS shooter, Logistics have a gun, and its not just there to look pretty, so they should be capable of being lethal. That doesn't mean they're an "OMFG SLAYER SUIT" because EVERYTHING in the game has its own way of killing you, and they should be capable of doing so. That being said they need proper survivability in order to properly fill their role. Even if you gave Logistics the same slot layout as Assaults and gave them 100 more base HP, they would still have less HP than an Assault; that's how large the difference is between the suits currently.

Logistics need a buff.

Even if you gave Logistics the same slot layout as Assaults and gave them 100 more base HP, they would still have less HP than an Assault; that's how large the difference is between the suits currently.

Q: Why are logis so squishy?
A: Because they are not assaults.

However logis could use some better mobility.

So i was thinking how every suit has its downfalls and its upsides. For example : A scout has the mobility, but less armor. A heavy has armor, but is slow. An assault is fast, and powerful. Really no downside their. BUT A LOGi has a lot of downfalls and not very many good things.

So a logi has equipment slots, so what. My only survivable logis have no more than 450 Armor 200 Shields. That isnt anything when a logi has to take the most hits, besides the heavy. So tell me again why a logi has over half the amount of ehp as an assault, but yet an assault almost has the same amount of equipment slots.

Actually why does any suit have more than 1 equipment slot, except for a logi. Ohh.. so i get 60% less ehp, but its ok.. i get one more equipment slot and my suit cost 80,000 isk - 200,000 isk a suit.