DUST Search - Questionnaire: Would you donate gear?

Michael Epic wrote:

LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote:

Michael Epic wrote:

I'd be worried that with so many mercs donating gear, you'd just purchase Jara and use the increased percentage to sell all the gear. It wouldn't be much but if you were flooded with free gear, you'd be flooded with isk which is every Dust 514 merc's dream.

I'm always happy to help people, but I wouldn't just blindly send random gear and let you decide what to do with it.

Obviously a valid concern which for now I can not really argue against.

If you do not want to donate to me just drop a squad invite to some of those guys on the bottom of the board and pass them some of the gear from salvage and maybe even advanced AUR gear from strongboxes that you will probably not use and give them a couple of pointers on how to use it.

Before giving ISK to newbies usually meant they were just going to buy more of the fits they were dying in until it was all gone but trading gives us the ability to expand their knowledge of the game somewhat by force and maybe give them a better chance at sticking around.

As a community we can make player trading the best or worst thing to happen to NPE in the history of this game.

Well....as one of the lucky ones who has enough isk (not trying to humble brag), I can attest to the freedom of being able to play with any of the weapons in the game to be liberating and to also expansive as a player.

I agree with you that the new players need to be able to find the weapons which suit them and it needs to be easier for them outside of the lousy payouts from pubs....I just don't know how it would be done. I mean perhaps a collection of known new players would be good BUT also exists the risk of them being alts for veteran players, looking to cash grab free gear or free aurum.

The plain and simple fact is that without getting to know every single merc intimately, our Dust 514 is ruthless and shallow and greedy.

And that sucks big time.

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LOOKMOM NOHANDS Warpoint Sharx 247	Posted - 2015.03.16 10:44:00 - [1] - Quote I am considering starting a bit of a charity for new/mid level players with emphasis on providing them the gear they need as they grow and learn in the game. I feel like this will work much better than giving out ISK that will just end up burned or given away with little effect on their long term standings within New Eden. This would be focused around basic and advanced gear so that they can toy with fittings at a reduced cost as they learn. How many people would be willing to donate their salvage to my charity to fuel it getting started up or would I just be giving away my salvage and then giving up the idea?
shaman oga Dead Man's Game 4166	Posted - 2015.03.16 10:46:00 - [2] - Quote I would like corps to have a storage too, then you can donate items to corp, but they probably will, since they will be able to collect warbarge components. Pimp my Barge
Corrupted Cherubimon Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 3	Posted - 2015.03.16 10:48:00 - [3] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: I am considering starting a bit of a charity for new/mid level players with emphasis on providing them the gear they need as they grow and learn in the game. I feel like this will work much better than giving out ISK that will just end up burned or given away with little effect on their long term standings within New Eden. This would be focused around basic and advanced gear so that they can toy with fittings at a reduced cost as they learn. How many people would be willing to donate their salvage to my charity to fuel it getting started up or would I just be giving away my salvage and then giving up the idea? They do this already in EVE, giving away pre-fitted ships, and that ***** expensive so there shouldn't be any reason not to do it on DUST.
xavier zor 0uter.Heaven 931	Posted - 2015.03.16 10:48:00 - [4] - Quote I would donate all my shotguns away, I would never use them retired stabbed musturd, duna, radar, tibs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RGOuOaObVA<---KingThunderBolt fail montage
Diablo Gamekeeper KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 142	Posted - 2015.03.16 10:49:00 - [5] - Quote or maybe he's looking to keep all the gear "I think he just Assert Dominance all over my face."-Saxonmish
Gaius Calinus Incarnation Soldiers 21	Posted - 2015.03.16 11:00:00 - [6] - Quote I would donate the whole s** I don't use (that's a lot) but somehow get as salvage... I can either sell it for an insignificant ISK amount or donate it as long as I know it really reaches the ones who need it... Hail Caldari !! Hail to the Caldari State !!!**
LOOKMOM NOHANDS Warpoint Sharx 247	Posted - 2015.03.16 11:04:00 - [7] - Quote Gaius Calinus wrote: I would donate the whole s**** I don't use (that's a lot) but somehow get as salvage... I can either sell it for an insignificant ISK amount or donate it as long as I know it really reaches the ones who need it... I plan on integrating this with a line of short training videos made while helping newbies to grow the overall effect. I have still yet to work out 100% of the details I just wanted to see the communities feelings before I started making everything that is needed for my plans.
J0LLY R0G3R And the ButtPirates 2376	Posted - 2015.03.16 12:49:00 - [8] - Quote Donating and letting someone else decide where gear goes is something I'd never do. Good Luck though. No Safety Net. TLDR : XD
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy 2808	Posted - 2015.03.16 12:56:00 - [9] - Quote I would donate the MK II things I have, and some basic frames I have. Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game RUST415 1067	Posted - 2015.03.16 14:04:00 - [10] - Quote Would you accepet strongboxes? Have plenty of these. You can force open them to get some junk. Caldari Hero Loyal To The State Mejt0 Sale List

LOOKMOM NOHANDS Warpoint Sharx 252	Posted - 2015.03.16 14:12:00 - [11] - Quote J0LLY R0G3R wrote: Donating and letting someone else decide where gear goes is something I'd never do. Good Luck though. Understandable. I know you have a capture card so would love if you would like to do similar training stuff and allow me to link the videos along with my own.
LOOKMOM NOHANDS Warpoint Sharx 252	Posted - 2015.03.16 14:14:00 - [12] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Would you accepet strongboxes? Have plenty of these. You can force open them to get some junk. Surprisingly strong boxes are a good thing for newbies if they are transferable. If you have played on an alt you know that those of us who were not online for the strong box spam have to grind for boxes as well.
Michael Epic Horizons' Edge 652	Posted - 2015.03.16 16:02:00 - [13] - Quote I'd be worried that with so many mercs donating gear, you'd just purchase Jara and use the increased percentage to sell all the gear. It wouldn't be much but if you were flooded with free gear, you'd be flooded with isk which is every Dust 514 merc's dream. I'm always happy to help people, but I wouldn't just blindly send random gear and let you decide what to do with it. Michael Epic's "EPIC" Proposal to his girlfriend :D
LOOKMOM NOHANDS Warpoint Sharx 257	Posted - 2015.03.16 16:11:00 - [14] - Quote Michael Epic wrote: I'd be worried that with so many mercs donating gear, you'd just purchase Jara and use the increased percentage to sell all the gear. It wouldn't be much but if you were flooded with free gear, you'd be flooded with isk which is every Dust 514 merc's dream. I'm always happy to help people, but I wouldn't just blindly send random gear and let you decide what to do with it. Obviously a valid concern which for now I can not really argue against. If you do not want to donate to me just drop a squad invite to some of those guys on the bottom of the board and pass them some of the gear from salvage and maybe even advanced AUR gear from strongboxes that you will probably not use and give them a couple of pointers on how to use it. Before giving ISK to newbies usually meant they were just going to buy more of the fits they were dying in until it was all gone but trading gives us the ability to expand their knowledge of the game somewhat by force and maybe give them a better chance at sticking around. As a community we can make player trading the best or worst thing to happen to NPE in the history of this game.
Michael Epic Horizons' Edge 653	Posted - 2015.03.16 16:17:00 - [15] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Michael Epic wrote: I'd be worried that with so many mercs donating gear, you'd just purchase Jara and use the increased percentage to sell all the gear. It wouldn't be much but if you were flooded with free gear, you'd be flooded with isk which is every Dust 514 merc's dream. I'm always happy to help people, but I wouldn't just blindly send random gear and let you decide what to do with it. Obviously a valid concern which for now I can not really argue against. If you do not want to donate to me just drop a squad invite to some of those guys on the bottom of the board and pass them some of the gear from salvage and maybe even advanced AUR gear from strongboxes that you will probably not use and give them a couple of pointers on how to use it. Before giving ISK to newbies usually meant they were just going to buy more of the fits they were dying in until it was all gone but trading gives us the ability to expand their knowledge of the game somewhat by force and maybe give them a better chance at sticking around. As a community we can make player trading the best or worst thing to happen to NPE in the history of this game. Well....as one of the lucky ones who has enough isk (not trying to humble brag), I can attest to the freedom of being able to play with any of the weapons in the game to be liberating and to also expansive as a player. I agree with you that the new players need to be able to find the weapons which suit them and it needs to be easier for them outside of the lousy payouts from pubs....I just don't know how it would be done. I mean perhaps a collection of known new players would be good BUT also exists the risk of them being alts for veteran players, looking to cash grab free gear or free aurum. The plain and simple fact is that without getting to know every single merc intimately, there is nothing we can do as our Dust 514 community is ruthless and shallow and greedy. And that sucks big time. Michael Epic's "EPIC" Proposal to his girlfriend :D
thehellisgoingon MONSTER SYNERGY 374	Posted - 2015.03.16 16:22:00 - [16] - Quote I have lots of prefitted dropsuits I won't be using. Combat loadout/Frontline whatnot. I'm willing to let them all go for free.
LOOKMOM NOHANDS Warpoint Sharx 257	Posted - 2015.03.16 16:24:00 - [17] - Quote Michael Epic wrote: LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Michael Epic wrote: I'd be worried that with so many mercs donating gear, you'd just purchase Jara and use the increased percentage to sell all the gear. It wouldn't be much but if you were flooded with free gear, you'd be flooded with isk which is every Dust 514 merc's dream. I'm always happy to help people, but I wouldn't just blindly send random gear and let you decide what to do with it. Obviously a valid concern which for now I can not really argue against. If you do not want to donate to me just drop a squad invite to some of those guys on the bottom of the board and pass them some of the gear from salvage and maybe even advanced AUR gear from strongboxes that you will probably not use and give them a couple of pointers on how to use it. Before giving ISK to newbies usually meant they were just going to buy more of the fits they were dying in until it was all gone but trading gives us the ability to expand their knowledge of the game somewhat by force and maybe give them a better chance at sticking around. As a community we can make player trading the best or worst thing to happen to NPE in the history of this game. Well....as one of the lucky ones who has enough isk (not trying to humble brag), I can attest to the freedom of being able to play with any of the weapons in the game to be liberating and to also expansive as a player. I agree with you that the new players need to be able to find the weapons which suit them and it needs to be easier for them outside of the lousy payouts from pubs....I just don't know how it would be done. I mean perhaps a collection of known new players would be good BUT also exists the risk of them being alts for veteran players, looking to cash grab free gear or free aurum. The plain and simple fact is that without getting to know every single merc intimately, our Dust 514 is ruthless and shallow and greedy. And that sucks big time. This is exactly why I am restricting my efforts to what we vets consider junk from salvage and strong boxes. These items can be great for newbies who are not even skilled high enough to run anything else. You would be shocked what hopping in a match with only you in your squad and inviting all the randoms will do for you finding people that are happy to take a bit of help. Even voicing up in team chat will show you some people anxious to be better at the game. This also keeps the trolls and beggers from joining your squad through squad finder. A long time ago I did these things and gave away a total of 100s of millions of ISK only to watch it burned up on stocking hundreds of the suits they already had which is why I see player trading as a great opportunity to attempt to help.
J0LLY R0G3R And the ButtPirates 2379	Posted - 2015.03.16 16:37:00 - [18] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: J0LLY R0G3R wrote: Donating and letting someone else decide where gear goes is something I'd never do. Good Luck though. Understandable. I know you have a capture card so would love if you would like to do similar training stuff and allow me to link the videos along with my own. If your serious about helping others and follow through with it surely. Just pop a message with what you want and I'll see what I can do. No Safety Net. TLDR : XD
Refreak 44 DEPT OF CORRUPTION 14	Posted - 2015.03.16 16:46:00 - [19] - Quote 7/10 of the stuff I get, I'll never use. That includes officer gear. I'm looking to trade my officer gear for other gear I might use, but with with stuff like the 50 something Ak.0s I have, I wouldn't mind donating to help out other players rather than getting the scraps they give me for selling my stuff in the marketplace. \o/
Michael Epic Horizons' Edge 654	Posted - 2015.03.16 17:11:00 - [20] - Quote Refreak 44 wrote: 7/10 of the stuff I get, I'll never use. That includes officer gear. I'm looking to trade my officer gear for other gear I might use, but with with stuff like the 50 something Ak.0s I have, I wouldn't mind donating to help out other players rather than getting the scraps they give me for selling my stuff in the marketplace. Hold on to officer gear....as soon as player trading comes out, that stuff will be an isk printing press. Michael Epic's "EPIC" Proposal to his girlfriend :D

Assert Dominance Negative-Feedback 1031	Posted - 2015.03.16 18:02:00 - [21] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: I am considering starting a bit of a charity for new/mid level players with emphasis on providing them the gear they need as they grow and learn in the game. I feel like this will work much better than giving out ISK that will just end up burned or given away with little effect on their long term standings within New Eden. This would be focused around basic and advanced gear so that they can toy with fittings at a reduced cost as they learn. How many people would be willing to donate their salvage to my charity to fuel it getting started up or would I just be giving away my salvage and then giving up the idea? obvious scam is obvious. blue dot, shoot him!!!!!!!!
Ronin Merc Defenders of the Helghast Dream The Ditanian Alliance 8	Posted - 2015.03.16 21:24:00 - [22] - Quote I would give away a lot of gear. Especially standard and advanced. Got a lot of stuff I will never spec into. No use in selling i T
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 12154	Posted - 2015.03.16 21:31:00 - [23] - Quote I would definitely donate, and would buy stuff to donate. Hundreds of militia items of every single type so new players can try all possible combinations and get a feel for what they like, and then once they start skiling into a particular item, I would donate standard tier versions of that item Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Back and Forth 7424	Posted - 2015.03.16 23:28:00 - [24] - Quote If corp assets were ever to become a thing i have big plans for it... CBM EVE, Dust & Corp Services Buying Dead & Inactive Corps
Assert Dominance Negative-Feedback 1036	Posted - 2015.03.17 01:12:00 - [25] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: I would definitely donate, and would buy stuff to donate. Hundreds of militia items of every single type so new players can try all possible combinations and get a feel for what they like, and then once they start skiling into a particular item, I would donate standard tier versions of that item new players should not struggle to buy militia gear, no one should. Only advanced + blue dot, shoot him!!!!!!!!
LOOKMOM NOHANDS Warpoint Sharx 264	Posted - 2015.03.17 01:21:00 - [26] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: I would definitely donate, and would buy stuff to donate. Hundreds of militia items of every single type so new players can try all possible combinations and get a feel for what they like, and then once they start skiling into a particular item, I would donate standard tier versions of that item new players should not struggle to buy militia gear, no one should. Only advanced + Players that are fresh out of the academy are usually thrown to a pack of angry wolves. When you go negative ISK every match and keep wondering around spending your money on skillbooks the tier does not matter. This very low wallet balance also seriously restricts players from just adventuring a bit and spending money on modules they do not even know they need. The prefit suits were a great stride in this department but they have to first know what those are and how to use them. Those prefit suits also burn up fast even when you have the core skills behind them so for a newbie who does not know how to change a couple of things on it to make it a bit better those are a quick ISK sink as well.


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